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Froch: I’ll walk though Ward’s feather duster shots

By Scott Gilfoid: I must confess I still haven’t seen last Saturday’s Super Six semifinal fight between WBC super middleweight champion Carl Froch (28-1, 20 KO’s) and Glen Johnson (51-15-2, 35 KO’s), but I have seen some tasty clips of it and seen enough to give my two cents on the bout. But before I do, it looks like Froch is already opening his trap about his Super Six finals bout against the heavy favorite American WBA super middleweight champion Andre Ward (24-0, 13 KO’s.

In an interview with Sky Sports, Froch said “This guy [talking about Ward] is an Olympic champion, very fast, very skillful, but to be honest I did a better job on [Arthur] Abraham than he did. His biggest asset is his fast reflexes but he’s not a big puncher, so he’s going to have trouble keeping me off him. I’m going to walk forward, impose my strength and power, stick it on him and walk through his feather-duster punches.”

God, Froch sounds like he’s dreaming something fierce. Someone needs to pour a nice cup of tea and wake him up from his revery. Ward toyed with Abraham and beat him with ease recently. Froch did a number on Abraham as well, but only after the blueprint to beat Abraham was already created by Andre Dirrell. All Froch had to do was basically mimic what Dirrell did and try to louse it up too much. Dirrell was much more impressive against Abraham than Froch. And I think Froch is forgetting the fact that Ward easily beat Mikkel Kessler by an 11th round technical decision in 2009. Froch was beaten by Kessler only last year. Do you get the picture? Froch loses to Kessler while Ward easily beats Kessler. That tells you all you need to know about Froch’s chances against Ward. Froch basically has no chance against Ward. The Froch-Johnson fight only picked a victim for Ward to beat up and humiliate in the finals of the Super Six. It’s going to be embarrassingly easy for Ward to beat Froch.

As for the Johnson-Froch fight, from the short youtube clips of the fight I saw, Froch looked to be getting hit clean by Johnson with right hands. It was almost silly to see Froch getting tagged left and right by Johnson. But I must say that Johnson looked badly weight drained. His power and his workrate just weren’t there for this fight. Obviously, the strain of having to make 168 proved to be too much for Johnson, leaving him weak, lethargic and unable to muster up more than a small handful of punches every round. I saw Froch’s win as nothing more than a win by default over a guy that wasn’t at his full strength for the fight. Heck, on top of that, Johnson is 42-years-old and even with that, Froch barely beat him by most accounts. What does that tell you?
 
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Chavez Jr. to face Cotto next rather than Sergio Martinez or Rubio

Dan Ambrose: Instead of putting newly crowned WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (43-0-1, 30 KO’s) in with Sergio Martinez or Marco Antonio Rubio in fights that Chavez Jr. would almost surely lose and lose badly, his promoter Bob Arum is reportedly going to match Chavez Jr. up with WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto in October. It’s unclear whether this will be a catchweight fight where Chavez Jr. meets Cotto halfway between 154 and 160 of at the full weight.

It’s hard to imagine that Cotto, who is only 5’7″, would be eager to fight Chavez Jr. at the full 160 lbs for the fight. That would put Cotto at a big disadvantage, especially if Chavez Jr. rehydrates up to 180 lbs like he did before his fight last weekend against WBC middleweight champion Sebastian Zbik. Chavez Jr. won that fight by a 12 round majority decision by the scores 114-114, 115-113 and 116-112. But Chavez Jr. looked utterly hittable all night long.

The fight came down to Chavez using his huge size advantage over the much smaller 165 pound Zbik to work him over on the inside. Zbik didn’t have the presence of mind to keep the fight on the outside where he was doing surprisingly well. By letting Chavez Jr. walk him down and work on the inside with body shots, Zbik gave away most of the last six rounds of the fight and lost his title in the process. But it wasn’t a good sign to see Chavez Jr. barely beating the weakest of the four middleweight champions. That’s not a good sign if you’re a fan and you were hoping that this fight would be the beginning of a long title run for Chavez. Oh, I can see Chavez Jr. holding onto his WBC title for a while, but only if they stay far, far away from Sergio Martinez and Marco Antonio Rubio.

If Chavez Jr. can be steered around those two fighters, the rest of the contenders that the WBC has ranked in the top 15 are mediocre enough so that Chavez Jr. can take his 180 pound rehydration size and basically beat them on size alone – if he can continue make the 160 pound middleweight limit for much longer. It’s very rare that a middleweight rehydrates that high after the weigh-in, and when they do it tells you that they’re not long for this weight. Chavez Jr. may have to move up to super middleweight before long unless he can lose some muscle. He wasn’t fat for the Zbik fight, meaning that if Chavez Jr. wants to stay at middleweight, he may have to lose muscle because he’s going to start getting weak from dehydrating to make weight.

I think Cotto will easily beat Chavez Jr. It’s probably not going to be competitive because Cotto is much bigger puncher than Zbik and Chavez Jr. will be there to be hit all night long. It’s going to be one of those fighters where one fighter gets badly exposed. We’d likely see Chavez Jr. exposed even worse if he fought Sergio Martinez, but that won’t happen because Arum would be crazy to put Chavez in with that beast of a puncher and see Chavez Jr. can dismantled.
 
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Witter: Judah will beat Khan

By William Mackay: former WBC light welterweight champion Junior Witter sees IBF light welterweight champion Zab Judah (41-6, 28 KO’s) being too much for WBA light welterweight champion Amir Khan (25-1, 17 KO’s) in their July 23rd fight at the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, in Las Vegas, Nevada. Witter feels that Judah’s experience and power will be a huge factors for him against the upstart Khan and that will carry him to victory.

Speaking with the dailystar.co.uk, Witter said “I definitely fancy him [Judah] to beat Khan. If he stays focused, he has the power and people forget how experienced he is. He is completely different to how he was a couple of years ago [when Judah was fighting at welterweight]. I think he’ll beat Khan and Timothy Bradley. He [Judah] has a good chin, unlike Khan, and when he’s on it, like he is now, I just don’t think the others can beat him.”

Witter should know, because he was soundly beaten by Judah by a one-sided 12 round unanimous decision back in June 2000. That was a long time ago, to be sure, but Judah is still blinding fast and an even better puncher now than he was back then. And as we all know, Khan has problems against fighters with good power. Judah probably has even better power than Marcos Maidana, but what makes Judah so dangerous is his speed. Fighters don’t see him through his shots until they’ve already landed. When Judah lands one of his big uppercuts, Khan is likely going to be resting with his back on the canvas with him looking up at the lights.

Witter and Khan were looking to make a fight with each other not too long ago. However, the fight failed to happen because Sky Sports didn’t want it, says Witter. He said “People at Sky didn’t want to risk him [Khan] against me.”
 
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Zbik Get Sturm'd?

By Steve Kim, MaxBoxing

In the aftermath of his first professional loss in 31 bouts, the now-former WBC middleweight champion, Sebastian Zbik, walked into the Chick Hearn Press Room at the Staples Center and immediately addressed the young man to his left that had just taken the green belt from him by the scores of 114-114, 115-113 and 116-112.

He turned to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and said, "I want to ask Julio if he's happy with the fight. So if he's happy with the belt, now, what does he think about the fight? Because in my opinion, I came here as the world champion but I made the fight. I hit him often; I threw more punches. I did the fight, so I can't understand why I lost it." Later on, Zbik lamented, "I think it was an interesting, good fight for all the people but I'm sad that I lost my title that way."

After Zbik built an early lead by utilizing quick combinations that peppered the head of the young Mexican challenger, Chavez Jr. eventually rallied down the stretch (taking the last three rounds on the scorecards of Raul Caiz Jr., Steve Morrow and John Keane), using a persistent body attack that would have made his legendary father proud.

But was it enough to win the fight?

Did Zbik, who fought as aggressively as he ever has, knowing that he was boxing on Chavez's home canvas, fall prey to the same fate as another German seven years ago? You all remember what happened to Felix Sturm, who proved to be anything but a tune-up or just another guy with a paper belt (in this case, the WBO middleweight title) when imported to Las Vegas to serve as the foil to one Oscar De La Hoya in June of 2004, only to conclusively outfight and outbox the “Golden Boy” over 12 rounds. Sturm ultimately became the victim of a scorecard that seemed predetermined and preordained as De La Hoya had already accepted the assignment of facing Bernard Hopkins a few months later.

"Of course we knew the situation before and we know that if the fight is close, that we will lose the fight," said a frustrated and bewildered Zbik, who still couldn't grasp the verdict, "but this fight, in my opinion, it wasn't close. I threw more punches and I did the fight. I was always moving forward and at the end, I don't feel like a loser tonight. I'm proud and I'm happy with the fight but I'm not very happy that I lost my title."

Bob Arum, who promotes Chavez, pointed out that the HBO crew had Chavez winning the bout. Their “unofficial official” Harold Lederman had him up by the score of 116-112. The veteran promoter also pointed out that the widest scorecard came from an Englishman, in this case, Keane, who had Chavez winning by the same score of Lederman (prompting someone to crack, "Yeah, as if an Englishman wouldn't have anything against a German."). However, the deck was stacked against Zbik from the start; not only was he performing in America for the first time, he was an unknown foreign fighter facing the son of a living legend. Don't believe for one nanosecond that WBC dictator Jose Sulaiman didn't want another Chavez holding one of his belts.

And when Chavez Sr. was introduced to the crowd while standing beside his son, a week before his induction into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, New York, the inference was very clear- this just wasn't supposed to be Zbik's night. This was to be the coronation of a prince.

To be fair, though, most ringside media had the fight very close. They seemed to be split in three factions; some had Zbik winning by a couple of points (personally, I had it 115-113 for the German), a draw, or a close Chavez Jr. victory.

When asked if a protest would be filed on their fighter’s behalf, a representative of Universum-Box Promotion told the gathered press, "In our opinion and in everyone [else’s] I talked to, Sebastian did not lose the fight. As he mentioned before, he came here as a world champion; he has thrown more punches than the challenger. He hit him more often than the challenger, so we are all very proud of Sebastian; he made a wonderful fight. To your question, we're very upset so I think it's best to calm down a little bit and then we'll analyze the fight and see what we are going to do."

In winning the WBC belt, Chavez didn't earn the distinction of becoming the best middleweight in the world. Even the brain trust at Top Rank acknowledges that. They know what they have and they know his limitations. But when it was all said and done, Chavez Jr.-Zbik ended up being a good, entertaining scrap, one that went back and forth and had some drama to it.

"It was a difficult fight; he was very strong, very good defensively," said Chavez Jr., still just 25 years old. "I did my best and I think my heart, the last half of the fight, that was the difference with this fight." He added later, "I'm very happy to win this title; I really can't put into words my thoughts. It was a great night for me. It's just something that I always dreamed about and I'm just glad. I hope everyone enjoyed the fight."

What was most impressive about Chavez was his persistence and the way he closed hard down the stretch. For a fighter whose conditioning has been maligned, it was he that came on late with a steady barrage of body punches that slowed down Zbik. "We came on at the end," said his trainer Freddie Roach. "I told him he had to back him up to win the fight. I felt we did that in the last four rounds and there's one thing about pitty-pat punches and tapping a guy with quick combinations and power-punching. We landed the much more effective punches all night long."

Naturally, talk turned to the man who is the recognized best at 160, Sergio Martinez.

"To me, he's a great champion, one of the best out there," said Chavez Jr., who is now 43-0-1 (30). "I respect him a lot and for me, I'd be very proud of fighting him. If that's who's next, that's who next."

Not if Arum has anything to do with it.

"Like everything else, what writers and media might want, it’s not often very practical," he said, giving a familiar spiel. "Let me explain; HBO pays more money than anybody else for a fight but that money is still limited. The only way the fighters can really be compensated is in a pay-per-view. Sergio Martinez has never been in a pay-per-view fight. That means the cable operators, satellite providers don't know who the hell he is. You writers do; your media does- but they don't know and they're not going to get behind it with advertising dollars. [Antonio] Margarito, they know. [Miguel] Cotto, they know. So if we put Chavez in with Cotto, Cotto has an unbelievable track record as a pay-per-view attraction, that that fights going to sell. Same with Margarito.

"Sergio Martinez does not have that background. Now, that's not my fault; I'm not his promoter."

When it was suggested that “Maravilla” needed Top Rank, Arum answered that, "Sergio's promoter [Lou DiBella] should get off his ass and build him as a pay-per-view attraction; it's really simple. It's really simple. People say, 'Well, Top Rank only wants its fighters to fight its other fighters.' Well, we want our fighters to fight pay-per-view attractions and if they all come from Top Rank, that's the way it is."

Many fans and pundits will hate hearing that from Arum. Thing is, he's being as honest as can be. He's not giving any false pretenses that Chavez Jr. is ready for the likes of Martinez. But the bottom line is this, as Arum builds commodities like Chavez Jr. on his own dime (the fight this weekend was the first of his that came with a premium cable subsidy) and while other promoters act as de facto television packagers who don't build fan followings and showcase their fighters in faraway Indian casinos, he simply will not risk what he has built against those who bring nothing more than a résumé on either HBO or Showtime. He has always believed that it was his job to protect the interest of his clients and his company. To the chagrin of some, Arum does it incredibly well but until other entities build their own attractions, he doesn't believe it's his obligation to give those fighters career-high paydays, based on the value of the fighters he represents.

Boxing is a sport, yes, but it's just as much a business. Should he continue to be nurtured and developed, Chavez Jr. can be big business for everyone involved, which is why Zbik was never going to win a decision on Saturday night.

The kid isn't his father inside the ring; then again, who is? The “Lion of Culiacan” was a once-in-several-generations prizefighter but the younger Chavez isn't bad and he juuuust might be improving. However, he understands the legacy and pressure that comes along with being who he is.

"There's a lot of pressure with this name. You always have to carry that pressure anytime you fight," Junior said, adding, "It's always been there; it'll always be there. I won a championship and I want to continue and defend it as many times as I can. I don't want to be a one-hit wonder."

MANDATORY?

A lot of people- me, included- were under the impression that Martinez was in line to face the winner of the fight this weekend and that the WBC would mandate that Chavez Jr. face him soon, based on some of the past comments made by the Martinez camp.

To this, Arum replied, "Well, show me the rule that says that, number one, that there is a mandatory without having an optional defense and number two, that somebody who is not even an interim champion or the number one contender suddenly becomes the mandatory."

As you look at the WBC ratings, Martinez is listed as the “Diamond Belt” holder, whatever that means (perhaps he gets discounts at Zale's or something). He and his adviser, Sampson Lewkowicz, were at the Staples Center taking in the action. Martinez told Maxboxing, "Well, the WBC in the beginning, say that we will fight the winner, now, we need to wait."

As for any mandatory shot, he said, "Not at this moment."

Lewkowicz, who believes Chavez Jr. won the fight by a score of 115-113, says that Martinez will return on October 1st and the names under consideration are Marco Antonio Rubio, Peter Manfredo Jr. and Darren Barker.

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Featherweight Miguel “Mikey” Garcia impressively stopped late sub Rafael Guzman in four rounds to kick off the HBO card this weekend. He just looks like a guy getting really close to a title shot at 126.

"The champions out there; I don't want to disrespect anybody. They're champions for a reason. They got the talent; they're great champions. Some of them have been former champions in other divisions; some of them have been multiple champions in those divisions. You got names like [Jhonny] Gonzalez, [Yuriorkis] Gamboa, [Orlando] Salido; at the moment, Chris John, who's been reigning champion for six, seven years, I don't even know how long. These are great champions but any of these great champions, if they gave me the opportunity, I'll be happy to take that opportunity," said Garcia, who ended the night with a compact right cross that floored and dazed Guzman to a point where he toppled over as he attempted to rise from the canvas.

"I feel that my style can give any of these champions problems and I can beat them," said Garcia, who ran his mark to 26-0 with 22 KOs.

His co-trainer and brother, Robert, added, "I think with his last couple of performances, not only I but Bob Arum [and] Cameron Dunkin are going to agree with me. We know that he's ready. The champions are tough but to be great, you gotta beat the great champions and I think Mikey's in position to do it. We are not rushing it. If it takes a couple more fights, that's decided between Bob and Cameron, then we got no problems waiting. We'll keep him active and fighting on cards like this, HBO keeps giving us a shot.

"We could wait a couple more fights if we have to but if the champions are there and Bob Arum is able to work something out, we're ready to do that too."

VANES

Vanes Martirosyan, almost a year to the day that he won on HBO versus Joe Greene (in a fight that was so devoid of any real compelling action, the network essentially told Top Rank that they wanted nothing to do with him) earned a shot at the WBC junior middleweight title- which will soon be contested for between titlist Saul Alvarez and Ryan Rhodes- by getting off the floor and halting Saul Roman in seven exciting rounds. This is the type of victory he needed.

It wasn’t just getting the “W” but doing it in a manner in which everyone from fans to his own promotional team and network execs will want to see him perform again. Martirosyan didn't disagree with that notion.

"There was a lot on me going into this fight because I knew that I would say myself that the last fight on HBO was pretty boring for me and I should've done a lot better than what I did and I'm just happy that I got this opportunity. Going into this fight, I knew I had to win big and I had to win with a knockout and that's what I did," said Martirosyan.

“The Nightmare” was visibly bruised and marked up at the post-fight presser, so is he willing to go through this on a regular basis?

"It felt really good in there," he claimed. "It felt like a 'Rocky' movie while I was up there. So I felt really good. Just the pain you go through and then you get something like this, it's worth it."

FINAL FLURRIES

Anyone else fall asleep or get drowsy watching Yudel Jhonson on “Friday Night Fights”? I mean, even Joe and Teddy sounded bored out of their minds...Leo Santa Cruz is quickly becoming a young bantamweight to contend with...The bout between Dakota Stone and Christy Martin was a slugfest. Martin, after flooring Stone, hurt her hand and had to call it quits in the fifth round...There was no official announced attendance for this weekend’s card at the Staples Center but I would guesstimate that it was between 6-7,000 patrons...Hearing that Golden Boy is really pushing hard for a bout between Marcos Maidana and Robert Guerrero and they are willing to push it back to September to give “Chino” more time to prepare. They'd like to stage that fight at “The Tank” in San Jose...On July 1st, Antonio Orozco and Frankie Gomez will co-headline “Solo Boxeo” on Telefutura from the Fantasy Springs Resort and Casino...
 
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Freddie Roach speaks out on Vanes "The Nightmare" Martirosyan

Junior middleweight sensation Vanes "The Nightmare" Martirosyan (30-0, 19KOs) captured the WBC junior middleweight silver title in spectacular fashion on Saturday night. The Armenian fighter delighted his hometown fans when he defeated the rugged Saul Roman (34-9, 29KOs) via 7th round knockout at the STAPLES Center in Los Angeles.

Freddie Roach, who trains Julio Cesar Chavez Jr and co-trains Vanes Martirosyan, said that having the fighters spar together in their respective training camps was a key element in both fighters walking out of the ring with victories.

Roach said, "Vanes did a great job getting Chavez Jr. ready for the fight. Vanes is a little faster than Zbik and you could see that the training paid off in Chavez's fight. Chavez also helped Vanes get ready for Roman and you saw that in Vanes' performance. They both worked well together."

The 154 pound division is loaded with talent which gives Martirosyan many options for future opponents. Saturday night's victory puts the Glendale, CA, based fighter in a mandatory position to face Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. The popular Mexican fighter was on Roach's mind after Martirosyan's impressive victory. When asked who he would like to see Martirosyan face next, the legendary trainer quickly answered, "Canelo."

The red headed and freckled Alvarez enjoys rock star status in his native Mexico and is becoming more and more popular in the United States. Canelo has been anointed as Mexico's next big star but Roach is confident that his fighter would beat Alvarez and beat him quickly.

"Everybody is talking about how great he (Alvarez) is. I think Vanes would knock him out in one round. Vanes won the eliminator to face him. Lets see how good 'Canelo' really is," Roach stated.

Alvarez faces Ryan Rhodes on June 18th. If Alvarez gets past Rhodes, Martirosyan would love to face him in the fall.

"I want Canelo next!," exclaimed an excited Martirosyan. "I did my part and won the eliminator for the right to face him. Hopefully he does the honorable thing and fights me next."
 
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Teddy Atlas: Match up favors Mayweather not Pacquiao

By Johnny Benz


A recent interview conducted by our David Tyler with the legendary Boxing trainer, Teddy Atlas has created a buzz amongst fans as well as other writers and analysts. Atlas is well respected by true fans of Boxing for his superior knowledge and the way he tells it like it is. When Atlas speaks, most all of us listen. Those who don't listen are the ones who don't know much about boxing.

In regards to a match up between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd "Money" Mayweather Jr., Atlas believes that the fight would favor Mayweather. I am sure Pacquiao fans will were not pleased with his response, but Atlas gave an honorable answer.

Here is what Atlas told us here at Doghouse Boxing: "The match up favors Mayweather in every area...especially when Pacquiao comes in to an opponent with that reckless manner....", said Atlas, adding: "Mayweather is designed to take advantage of this type of opponent. He would have great success on the back end and the front end....the front end when Pacquiao is trying to impose himself physically...on the back end when Pacquiao moves away, Mayweather has the foot and hand speed to find him and punish him with jabs and right hands."

To read the full recent interview, click here: Teddy Atlas Interview conducted by David Tyler.
 
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Filipino, American novices promise $75 million each to Mayweather, Pacquiao Continue

Michael Marley

Boxing Examiner


Funny thing about the reporting business. Whether you’re covering figure skating, boxing or the price of copper futures, you’re often either knocking down someone else’s story or confirming same, maybe even adding details to the other guy’s story.

In the case of Ben Thompson’s Fighthype.com report about a $75 million purse offer to both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, I can confirm some of the details.

(This comes on top of Bob Arum and Michael Koncz on the Pacman side relating how Mayweather ostensibly squashed a $65 million purse offer for the so called “Dream Fight” by demanding $10 million upfront from a Singapore based consortium. Then, late Sunday, came a report out of the Philippines in which Pacquiao’s close pal and wealthy business mogul-politician Gov. Luis “Chavit” Singson told Inquiere.net he’s discussed a Canelo Alvarez-Pacquiao bout for 2012 in Mexico for which Mexican billionaire and telecommunications czar Carlos Slim Helu would fork over a $65 million purse to Manny for a bout which might be akin to child abuse if it were not for the fact that the popular flame-haired Mexican boxer turns age 21 come July 18.)

Btw, I think we can all envision these theoretical purses zooming past the $100 million for Floyd and Manny if either or both showed any real enthusiasm for making the fight.
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Back to Big Ben at Mayweather’s self-chosen bulletin board website.

A Filipino gentleman and a black American are the guys behind the purported $75 million purse offers and they are complete boxing novices. The American guy said he’s a big macher in the music business.

Originally, they spoke about paying the entire $150 million upfront, upon contract signing to Mayweather and to Pacman. (Now they say they will “only” pay $25 million upon signing to Floyd and Manny.)

Originally, they said they wished to put the huge fight at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, carelessly eschewing see what kind of multimillion dollar site fee they might gouge Las Vegas for.

One big difference in the Alvarez-Pacquiao and Mayweather-Pacquiao scenarios is that Slim is often listed as being as wealthy or nearly so as bucks up guys such as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. At one point, Slim was considered the richest man on the planet which sounds like an exclusive neighborhood to me.

According to Arum, the Singapore Slingers brought the offer to Mayweather henchman Tommy Smalls but that Mayweather kiboshed the deal with his $10 million upfront fee.

Somebody wake me up when the principals in the fight show some real interest in any offer.

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These idiot Pacman nuthuggers are really gettin' on my nerves. When Floyd fans defend Floyd it's always "a played out topic" but when Pacman nuthuggers (not you Heyzel) continue to post articles that don't even have input from Floyd Mayweather Jr. himself, it's all good.

All they ever says is Floyd doesn't want to fight Pacquiao. One day it's he turned down $100 million, then it was he turned down $50 million, now he's turnig down $65 million. It's not that Floyd doesn't want to fight "Pacquiao", he doesn't want to fight "ANYBODY"!! How hard is that to grasp???????? So leave the man alone until we hear from his own mouth that he's ready to fight or make a return to boxing.

I'll wait until I hear from Floyd himself, period. How could he turn down $65 million if he never entertained it? I'd rather hear it from the horses mouth rather than the horses behind.
 
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i think people going to stop talking about him till that clown shuts his mouth about pac-man and stops trash talking the sport of boxing....75 mill!!!!! wat a pussy lol shot me in my knee cap for 75 mill lol wow pussy says hes the best ever but he scared to fight a filipino midget steroids or not he scared.....end of the day manny is still p4p#1.... floyd and his fans hate it haha dont get mad tony is the truth homie
 
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These idiot Pacman nuthuggers are really gettin' on my nerves. When Floyd fans defend Floyd it's always "a played out topic" but when Pacman nuthuggers (not you Heyzel) continue to post articles that don't even have input from Floyd Mayweather Jr. himself, it's all good.

All they ever says is Floyd doesn't want to fight Pacquiao. One day it's he turned down $100 million, then it was he turned down $50 million, now he's turnig down $65 million. It's not that Floyd doesn't want to fight "Pacquiao", he doesn't want to fight "ANYBODY"!! How hard is that to grasp???????? So leave the man alone until we hear from his own mouth that he's ready to fight or make a return to boxing.

I'll wait until I hear from Floyd himself, period. How could he turn down $65 million if he never entertained it? I'd rather hear it from the horses mouth rather than the horses behind.
tony I feel what you are saying but it's time for both of these fools to sit down at the bargaining table and get this fight done already
 

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It's not that Floyd doesn't want to fight "Pacquiao", he doesn't want to fight "ANYBODY"!! How hard is that to grasp???????? So leave the man alone until we hear from his own mouth that he's ready to fight or make a return to boxing.
So if he doesn't want to fight "ANYBODY" why not shut the fuck up? Why keep trying to stay in the light when other people are about to fight or after they have fought?
 
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Schaefer says there is no $65 million offer for Pacquiao-Alvarez

By Chris Williams: Yesterday there was a rumor circulating around the boxing world that Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim had made an offer of $65 million to WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao for him to face Mexican super star WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez for a bout that would be taking place in Mexico City. As soon I heard it, I figured it as more of the typical make believe stuff that floats around the net.

And it looks like I’m right, as ringtv is reporting that Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, the promoter for Alvarez, is saying that this rumor is false. Schaefer apparently knows Slim and said he spoke to him about it and it’s not true. So there it, folks. I suppose this is bad news for Pacquiao fans, because it would have been huge payday for their favorite fighter. But come on, who in their right mind would pay $65 million for an Alvarez-Pacquiao fight when they could get that fight for so much cheaper than that. I don’t see that fight as a pay per view attraction right now. I can see some Clottey-Pacquiao-like PPV numbers for a Alvarez vs. Pacquiao fight. Sure, you might sell out an arena in Mexico, but I can’t see people frothing at the mouth eager to dump $55 to see Pacquiao beat up on an unproven 20-year-old like Alvarez. Heck, they’d have to pay to watch that one. I wouldn’t pay a dime for. Even if they discounted it to $4.99. That’s still too much for yet another terrible mismatch. I want to see Pacquiao face a live body like Martinez, Alfredo Angulo and especially Ortiz.

Billionaires become rich by being smart with their money, not giving it away on fights that really aren’t in demand. I don’t know of many people right now that are calling for a Pacquiao-Alvarez fight. Alvarez is just now getting known in the U.S and it would laughable to try and put these two fighters together at this early stage in Alvarez’s development. I can understand a rich guy wanting to match Pacquiao with Sergio Martinez, because Martinez is the best fighter in two divisions – junior middleweight and middleweight.

But I doubt that Pacquiao would take a fight with Martinez unless it at 147, a weight that Martinez can’t make. Martinez is one of the few interesting opponents that Pacquiao can be matched against other than Floyd Mayweather Jr. I have no interest in Pacquiao’s November fight against 38-year-old Juan Manuel Marquez. That’s another mismatch, especially with the fight taking place at 144. That fight will be a Mexican version of Shane Mosley, a 39-year-old fighter that Pacquiao just finished beating. I don’t know why but it seems like Pacquiao is getting matched up against old timers nowadays. I want to see Pacquiao face some young relevant fighters like Victor Ortiz. Why isn’t Pacquiao facing him? Why do boxing fans have to see him face guys that are nearly 40?
 
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Kellerman: Chavez Jr. isn’t the champion of anything

By Dan Ambrose: HBO analyst Max Kellerman sounded off about Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. capturing the World Boxing Council (WBC) middleweight crown last Saturday night against champion Sebastian Zbik by saying that Chavez Jr. isn’t a real world champion, Sergio Martinez is. It’s likely that few boxing fans would disagree with Kellerman about that, as Martinez is seen as the main champion at middleweight.

Unfortunately with boxing now having four champions in each division, it makes a big mess of things and leaves it up to the fans to determine who they personally feel is the best fighter in each division. Chavez Jr. didn’t help make a case for himself that he’s the number #1 guy by struggling to beat Zbik, the WBC paper champion by a 12 round majority decision.

This is what Kellerman had to say after Chavez-Zbik fight last Saturday night: “Belts are promotional tools nowadays. The belt that Chavez Jr. just won was stripped from the real middleweight champion of the world. Chavez Jr. isn’t the champion of anything except that sanctioning belt. He’s not really a world champion and not so far in the class of the world champion Sergio Martinez. That said, he does have a belt cause he has connections with the fans, partly because he’s Julio Cesar Chavez senior’s son. Clearly, he’s [Chavez Sr.] is the great champion of Mexico. Certainly the most popular ever. And so that certainly has opened doors for Junior. But he [Chavez Jr.] has a real connection to the fans and they to him.”

Wow! That’s not exactly a huge endorsement of Chavez Jr., is it?
 
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Carl Froch Says He’ll “Walk Through Andre Ward’s Feather-Duster Punches”

By James Slater: Understandably feeling very, very confident at the moment, having seen off his “Super-Six” semi-final rival Glen Johnson - in the process proving once again he is the best British fighter in the world today - WBC 168-pound champ Carl Froch is convinced he’ll defeat Andre Ward in the final.

“The Cobra,” for so long a criminally underappreciated old-school warrior, put on yet another great, all-action performance against the ageless “Road Warrior,” and to my mind he should be ranked above his fellow British world champions Amir Khan, David Haye, Nathan Cleverly and Ricky Burns. Not because he beat Johnson, but because the 33-year-old Froch has consistently met the very best in his weight class.

This routine of facing the very best will continue in Froch’s next fight, when he will square off with unbeaten, highly skilled WBA super-middleweight champion Ward. Now looking ahead to the grand final of “Super Six,” Froch believes he will have to impose his amazing physical and mental strength on Ward so as to come out a winner in the final.

“This guy is an Olympic champion, very fast, very skilful, but to be honest I did a better job on [Arthur] Abraham than he did,” Froch said to Sky Sports when speaking of Ward. “His biggest asset is his fast reflexes but he’s not a big puncher, so he’s going to have trouble keeping me off him. I’m going to walk forward, impose my strength and power, stick it on him and walk through his feather-duster punches.”

Froch did add that, Ward’s lack of power aside, the meeting will produce “a top fight between two top-level fighters.” And fans everywhere are gearing up for this one in a big way. Froch is certainly the harder hitter of the two, but Ward is both stunningly accurate and fast. The final may well produce a fight that turns out to be a classic Boxer Vs. Puncher encounter. However, Froch can box smartly himself, as he proved against “King” Arthur.

Some fans felt Froch would box smart and not get too involved with Johnson, yet he instead had what was arguably his second toughest fight behind his close points loss to Mikkel Kessler. Currently getting treatment for a sore ear that is leaking due to an infection, Froch may well have added more miles to his clock with the quite gruelling win over the teak-tough 42-year-old.

Then again, Froch said he felt he won on Saturday without really getting out of second gear. We’ve come to expect Froch to have to go through a tough time to get the win, such is the way he usually fights - but maybe by his terms, Saturday’s win was a relatively straightforward one. But will Ward prove to be too fresh and too fast come the final?

It’s true Ward, 24-0(13) is no big puncher, but he did manage to bust up Kessler when he fought him, and it’s likely he will not have too many problems connecting on Froch’s jaw. Froch possesses a truly fine chin, though, and it would be a massive shock if Ward were able to put him down. But Ward will have taken notice of the number of times Johnson was able to land his right hand on Froch, and he will no doubt try the shot himself. Could Ward land enough to cut and mark up his rival?

Ward’s own chin hasn’t been too severely tested itself it must be added, and Froch could be the man to test it. This upcoming fight really is the acid test for both men, and the winner will have achieved near superstar status. Unless Froch can reveal chinks in Ward’s armour and tell us things we never previously knew about “S.O.G’s” ability to take a shot, this fight has the look of a hard distance fight. The location of the bout will be an interesting factor: will Ward get home advantage once again? Will it be fair if he does?

Wherever the fight takes place, and whoever emerges triumphant, fans everywhere can expect a great fight.
 

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Floyd Mayweather is making an announcement very soon!

Check his twitter page at 9:00 am, like I said before, it's better to hear it from the horses mouth!
 
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Floyd Mayweather to fight Victor Ortiz

By Dan Rafael
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Floyd Mayweather Jr., a former five-division champion and one of the top pound-for-pound stars of the era, will end a 16-month layoff when he challenges welterweight titlist Victor Ortiz on Sept. 17.

"My fans have been waiting long enough. Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz. Sept 17, 2011 for the WBC world championship," Mayweather tweeted Tuesday afternoon.

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"It's true, but I can't discuss the details of the deal right now because of our contract," Rolando Arellano, Ortiz's manager, told ESPN.com. "There will be more details coming out and I will be with Victor later."

When asked where the fight would take place, Arellano said he was unsure but that "it will probably be at the MGM Grand (in Las Vegas)."

Mayweather, 34, has not fought since easily outpointing Shane Mosley on May 1, 2010. Since knocking out Ricky Hatton in December 2007, Mayweather has fought only twice, a decision win against Juan Manuel Marquez in September 2009 and the win against Mosley.

Most of the news Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs) has made has been outside the ring. He has had numerous scrapes with Las Vegas police and has multiple cases pending against him, including four felonies and four misdemeanors stemming from an domestic incident with the mother of two of his children last September.

Mayweather also has declined to face pound-for-pound king and welterweight titlist Manny Pacquiao in what many believe would be the biggest money-generating fight in boxing history.

The lone issue that caused Pacquiao-Mayweather to fall apart during their first of two negotiations was Mayweather's insistence on random blood testing during the lead-up to the fight. Pacquiao was willing to have blood tests, but the camps could not agree on the specific protocol.

Mayweather has said numerous times that for any fight he has, he will insist on random drug testing. Mosley accepted it. Schaefer told ESPN.com that Ortiz agreed to drug testing under the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency protocol.

Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 KOs), 24, was the 2008 ESPN.com prospect of the year. The native of Garden City, Kan., now based in Oxnard, Calif., moved up from junior welterweight and outpointed Andre Berto to win a welterweight title on April 16.
 
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By Chris Williams: Once again, another rumor about a Manny Pacquiao fight has been sh

By Chris Williams: Once again, another rumor about a Manny Pacquiao fight has been shot to pieces, this time by Floyd Mayweather Jr. There has been talk recently about Mayweather Jr. supposedly being offered $65 million from a source in Singapore to fight Pacquiao. It sounds great, right? Unfortunately, Mayweather is saying this is completely untrue and that neither he nor his adviser Al Haymon has been contacted by someone offering that kind of money, according to an interview of Mayweather at fighthype.com.

This is becoming routine now with incredible offers related to Mayweather and Pacquiao being made almost daily but then quickly followed with the news being bogus. How sad. Mayweather says that Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum hasn’t even spoken to Haymon, period. Mayweather is curious why Pacquiao is interested in fighting him still if he’s doing so well with his pay per view fights.

Mayweather would obviously be interested in a fight with Pacquiao if he was given a legitimate offer of big money like $65 million. Are you kidding? Mayweather would be all over that kind of money. But he’s saying that he’s received no offers of that kind to fight Pacquiao. I’m wondering why it was only a $65 million bogus offer and not something completely ridiculous like a $100 million. I guess that’s probably the next bogus number that is floated.
 
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By Dan Ambrose: HBO analyst Max Kellerman sounded off about Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. capturing the World Boxing Council (WBC) middleweight crown last Saturday night against champion Sebastian Zbik by saying that Chavez Jr. isn’t a real world champion, Sergio Martinez is. It’s likely that few boxing fans would disagree with Kellerman about that, as Martinez is seen as the main champion at middleweight.

Unfortunately with boxing now having four champions in each division, it makes a big mess of things and leaves it up to the fans to determine who they personally feel is the best fighter in each division. Chavez Jr. didn’t help make a case for himself that he’s the number #1 guy by struggling to beat Zbik, the WBC paper champion by a 12 round majority decision.

This is what Kellerman had to say after Chavez-Zbik fight last Saturday night: “Belts are promotional tools nowadays. The belt that Chavez Jr. just won was stripped from the real middleweight champion of the world. Chavez Jr. isn’t the champion of anything except that sanctioning belt. He’s not really a world champion and not so far in the class of the world champion Sergio Martinez. That said, he does have a belt cause he has connections with the fans, partly because he’s Julio Cesar Chavez senior’s son. Clearly, he’s [Chavez Sr.] is the great champion of Mexico. Certainly the most popular ever. And so that certainly has opened doors for Junior. But he [Chavez Jr.] has a real connection to the fans and they to him.”

Wow! That’s not exactly a huge endorsement of Chavez Jr., is it?
Right after Kellerman........Roy Jones corrected him and said....Chavez is a champion today. No one can take that away from him.

It was funny.

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Top Rank throws around fake stories about offering Mayweather all kinds of crazy money to hide the fact that Manny will not agree to random testing. Manny is scared to submit to random testing. Is it because he has something to hide?