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Orlando Salido Upsets Juan Manuel Lopez, As Well As The Fans Who Wanted To See Lopez-

By James Slater: First of all, huge congratulations must go out to tough Mexican Orlando Salido, who last night ignored the huge odds against him in upsetting the previously unbeaten, touted megastar of the future Juan Manuel Lopez. The 30-year-old former IBF featherweight champ dropped “Juanma” in the 5th-round of the fight in the defending WBO 126-pound champ’s home country of Puerto Rico, and then scored the TKO win in the 8th when the referee decided the 27-year-old southpaw had had enough.

Now 35-11-2(23), Salido has set himself up for some big paydays. But as happy as fans are for the warrior known as “Siri,” these same fight fans are today upset that they will not now get to see the much talked-of showdown between Lopez and rival featherweight ruler Yuriorkis Gamboa. This potential cracker had been building and building, with promoter Bob Arum insisting he would stage the potential classic in due course; when the match-up had grown into a mega-Pay-Per-View event.

Arum knew the danger: that either Gamboa or Lopez, both somewhat vulnerable despite their withering power, could lose in the meantime, thus spoiling the seemingly inevitable clash. That’s just what happened last night! Will we now get to see Gamboa Vs. Lopez? And if we do, will it have the same attractive quality now that Lopez has a “1” in his loss column?

Lopez had spoken of wanting to, after he’d gotten past Salido, move up to 130-pounds, win a belt there and then face the Cuban defector. This could still happen (and maybe Lopez will at least partially put last night’s loss down to the struggle of making 126 one last time), and with their exciting styles, Gamboa-Lopez would still prove a hit with fans. But there is something about seeing two budding stars squaring off in a big, defining fight when both are sporting perfect records. The upset element in this great sport took that away last night.

As for Salido - who showed how dangerous he was in his previous fight, when he dropped Gamboa and took him the full 12-rounds - he has earned himself at least one more big fight. Maybe a Salido-Gamboa II will be looked at, maybe a Salido-Chris John clash (assuming we do not see another upset tonight in Jakarta, where John will defend his WBA belt against the unfancied Daud Cino Yordan).

For now, though, Salido - who has been in with so many top names in his time, including Robert Guerrero, Juan Manuel Marquez, Rogers Mtagwa and Cristobal Cruz - can bask in the glory his fists brought him last night. And the fans can mourn the (probable) loss of a potential thriller in Gamboa-Lopez!
 
Jul 24, 2005
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Victor Ortiz needs help to beat Andre Berto

By Paul Strauss: You might say "Vicious" Victor Ortiz had an inside man for this job, and his name was Luis Collazo. You remember, he's the southpaw that gave Andre fits back in January of 2007. In fact, many people thought he beat Andre that night in Biloxi, Mississippi, but surprisingly Andre came away with a unanimous decision.

The lesson taught that night, and the one learned very well by Vicious Victor was that Andre Berto is vulnerable on the inside. When the opening bell sounded, Victor immediately closed the distance between him and Andre, and unleashed a "Vicious" inside attack, which started with his hard, sharp left hook. It landed because Andre backed against the ropes and could retreat no further. It also landed because Andre bent over to his right and stayed there. The left came in behind Andre's left glove, and then Victor complicated matters, by landing a good left uppercut to the head as Andre started to straighten up.

Victor wasn't done yet, as he then would fire his straight left, and then repeat the process. It was evident right from the beginning that Andre was uncomfortable, and was already feeling the power of Vicious Victor. He wanted to get this former junior welter, but now surprisingly bigger, off of him. He needed room to get his jab going and to fire off his counter right hand. But, Victor wasn't about to give it to him.

If you were told Victor got knocked down twice in this fight, and hurt badly by the second knockdown, and then suffered the indignity of getting penalized a point for hitting behind the head, you would undoubtedly guess that he loss the fight. Flashes of his embarrassing loss to Marco Maidana might come across your mind's eye. Yep, the same type of scenario. Victor comes out looking great, knocks his guy down, but is unable to finish him off, and the other guy comes storming back and Victor fades.

Not this time. Victor did come out like a summer storm. He did cause heavy damage, and he was unable to finish off his opponent, but this time he didn't fade even after suffering a quick flash knockdown. But, it's a safe bet that many of his fans and supporting had their hearts in their throats. If Victor wasn't gasping for breath, they certainly were.

Victor kept his cool, and did what he needed to do. He got back on the inside attack. He wanted to see Berto on the canvas again. Victor's corner correctly warned him against throwing his power punch, the straight left, from too far out, and they added that he shouldn't be throwing it from too far out. That's was the chink in his armor. When he came up short with that punch, Andre jumped all over the opportunity by landing his hard counter right hand, which Victor wouldn't see. Victor's failure to follow advice caused him the two knockdowns, the second of which was a very hard right hand that hurt him badly.

Victor looked seriously hurt and on his way out after that punch landed in the ...........round. Berto knew "this is my chance" and swarmed all over Victor, and unfortunately for Victor his defense wasn't that tight, and he was getting tagged. But, just when fans were about ready to pay off their losing bet, Victor surprised everyone with a great counter straight left that put Berto down! Soon after the round ended and both guys got the needed time to recuperate.

Berto's corner begged him to box. They wanted him to manage distance with his jab, and shoot his hard right over to keep damaging Victor. They also wanted him to "touch" Victor more to the body. They felt he would "fade" if Andre would do that. The problem was Victor could see the long right avoid it. It was the counter right that he was having trouble with, and as long as he didn't throw his punches from too far out, he was okay.

For the majority of the fight, Victor managed to keep Andre from moving to his left, away from the southpaw's power, but the problem he encountered was Victor's great right hook. Victor was able to land that shot again and again, which started the whole "Collazo" type inside game.

Hence, despite Referee Mike Ortega's interference in the proceedings, Victor pulled off an upset victory at Foxwoods Resort Casino, Mashantucket, CT and his first fight as a welterweight, resulted in a world championship.(WBC). The official scoring: Judge Julie Lederman 114-111; Judge Glenn Feldman 114-112; and Judge Clark Sammartino 115-110..

When Larry Merchant asked Victor if he wanted to get into the Pacman and Mayweather mix (opponent), Victor's eyes widened and he quickly said, "Yes"! He might need a different kind of inside man to get that task done.
 
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pretty damn impressive 25 Million Mexicans watched a womans boxing match live this past weekend. I heard it was a war and as for women boxing probably as good as it gets.






The News about the rating

http://www.notifight.com/artman2/publish/Reporte_7/Torres_y_Nava_son_Reinas_del_Raiting.php


And The Full fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RMjq1Vu0aA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60skQNu6Ngg


In comparision [The Pacquiao vs Margarito fight is the Most watched fight in the History of Mexico it had a rating of 27.7, a little more of 33 million viewers, that fight was shown at TV Azteca.

http://www.record.com.mx/tmf/2010-11-17/el-pleito-pacquiao-margarito-un-rating-historico
 
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Salido And Juan Manuel Lopez To Do It Again, Maybe As Soon As August

By James Slater: Due to two things: the contract obligation and the controversial, some say way too premature stoppage, featherweights Orlando Salido and Juan Manuel Lopez will meet in a rematch of the exiting fight they put on this past Saturday. Reportedly (fight news.com), Team-Lopez is pushing for a return as soon as possible, to hopefully happen in the month of August.

Promoter Bob Arum said shortly after the fight that the rematch would probably take place in November or December, but talks are now underway for the rematch of the fight that saw huge underdog Salido rip “Juanma’s” WBO belt and unbeaten record, to go ahead in the summer. Mexico’s Salido had hoped to get in a voluntary defence in his home country, in July time. But now it looks like the big money offered him will entice Salido to grant the former champ his chance for revenge.

As the first fight took place in Lopez’ home country of Puerto Rico, it would of course be fair if Salido got to fight the return at home. Will Lopez want to go to Mexico, though? Wherever the return is held, it will be a hugely anticipated fight; much more than was the first clash between the two.

This time, in light of the excellent action that unfolded on Saturday night, and in light of the 8th-round TKO win Salido scored, the fans will attend expecting to see another great fight. Will they get to see a repeat or revenge fight though? Maybe this time it will be southpaw Lopez who will enter the ring as the underdog. Can “Juanma” come back stronger, or will his porous defence let him down again? How much has Salido got left after all those tough fights?

As good as the first fight was, it’s good news that the rematch will take place sooner rather than later. For the winner there will be even bigger, more lucrative fights. For the loser, there may be no way back, at least to anything like top level - especially if the loser is Lopez. Two losses, to the same guy, coming back-to-back at that, could prove devastating to a proud warrior like Juanma Lopez.

Lopez had spoken of moving up in weight after the Salido defence, maybe the return will happen at a weight above 126 - at either a catch-weight or at 130-pounds?

Article posted on 19.04.2011
 
Jul 24, 2005
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Khan signs new four-fight contract with Golden Boy Promotions

By William Mackay: WBA light welterweight champion Amir Khan (25-1, 17 KO’s) has signed a new four-fight contract with Golden Boy Promotions that will carry Khan through some of the most critical fights of his career. Unless Khan is spoon fed opponents like his last one Paul McCloskey, Khan’s career may be in a tailspin by the time his four-fight contract has ended. First off, Khan, 24, has a fight coming up against WBC/WBO light welterweight champion Timothy Bradley (27-0, 11 KO’s) on July 23rd.


The fight will be shown on HBO and Primetime. The Khan-Bradley fight is a toss-up fight now. You can’t look at Khan’s recent fights against Marcos Maidana and McCloskey and see him winning the fight without struggling badly. Khan could possibly get beaten by Bradley. In which case we may see Khan’s subsequent fights against weaker opponents like the ones he fought following his 1st round KO loss to Breidis Prescott in 2008. Hopefully, Khan would at least finish the contract back to fighting quality fighters.

If Khan beats Bradley, then he will either move up in weight to welterweight or try to unify the titles at that weight. For Khan to unify the belts, he’ll have to beat the likes of Victor Ortiz, Jan Zaveck and Vyacheslav Senchenko. He won’t likely fight Manny Pacquiao, the WBO champion, because he’s a close friend of Khan and the two have said previously they wouldn’t fight. Khan may also stay at light welterweight to fight IBF champion Zab Judah before moving up in weight.

My guess is Khan will get beaten by Bradley in his first fight of the new Golden Boy contract and then fight his next couple of bouts against older toothless lions and work on his confidence while at the same time getting boxing fans to watch him fight in the UK. By the 4th fight of the contract, Khan will step up and face a contender at light welterweight like Lamont Peterson. That’s about as good as I can see happening with these next four fights.

They won’t match Khan tough if he losses to Bradley, because they’ll want to rebuild Khan to get him winning again. So depending on how badly Bradley beats Khan, he could be fed one, possibly two soft opponents before putting him in with a contender like Peterson. If Khan can win that fight, they’ll go after one of the paper champions like Judah rather than risk putting Khan back in with Bradley and seeing him knocked out or beaten on points again.
 
Jul 24, 2005
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Ortiz-Berto draws 1.5 million viewers, making it the most watched HBO fight of 2011

By Jim Dower: Last Saturday’s exciting fight between WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto (27-1, 21 KO’s) and Victor Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 KO’s) ended up drawing 1.5 million viewers on HBO, making it the biggest audience of 2011, according to boxing news from Dan Rafael. The last time HBO did better numbers was last year in June 2010 when Miguel Cotto defeated WBA junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman. That fight drew slightly more viewers than the Ortiz-Berto fight at 1.6 million compared to the 1.5 million for Berto vs. Ortiz.


The Berto-Ortiz fight was incredibly exciting with both fighters going down two times a piece. Berto came into the fight the unbeaten champion and he was picked to win the fight by many boxing fans. Berto looked completely not ready for the kind of heat that Ortiz was bringing him in the 1st round. Berto came forward looking to land and was driven back quickly by an avalanche of punches thrown by Ortiz. The referee blew a knockdown call, letting Berto off the hook for one knockdown in the round. But then Ortiz knocked Berto down again almost immediately after that after backing him to the corner.

Berto would follow with his own knockdown in the 2nd and then the 6th, but Ortiz had his number and was outworking Berto through most of the fight. It was great stuff and inspiring to see Ortiz prove a lot of his doubters wrong, many of which thought he would quit when the going got tough in the Berto fight.

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According to Arum Juan Manuel Marquez resigned or is about to resign with Golden Boy meaning Pacquiao-Marquez trilogy is not going to happen after mosley:

http://fighthype.com/pages/content9780.html

Not quite sure why Marquez would do that if he claims to want Pacquiao so badly.

Anyways, if no Floyd mayweather not sure who Pac can fight next, maybe Timothy Bradley, I dunno there aren't any other top rank fighters left for Pac, Mike Jones? lol that's about it. Victor Ortiz, JMM are golden boy so unless bob arum is willing to work with GBP again not sure who is out there.
 
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where did I say that? I said I don't know why he would do that. I don't know what his reasonings are. If he remained a free agent pac fight would happen 100% after mosley (assuming he wins). If he signs with golden boy there is no pac fight. He'll likely get Judah and then Robert the ghost.

Maybe he's looking long term and not short term. At 37 though I would imagine he would be trying to cash out against Pac but again, I don't know what his motives are. Maybe Oscar gave him a crazy signing bonus, dunno, we'll learn more in time.
 
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You can't fight two people at the same time asshole. But Manny had a choice to fight whoever he wanted to fight on May 7th, and he picked old ass Mosley over Marquez and Berto. So really why should Marquez waste his time and career chasing after Manny. He was with Top Rank before and they wasted the early part of his career. He would be dumb to sign back with them.
 
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wasted his career marquez is a hall of famer.

marquez was still with golden boy when the mosley fight was announced. there are literally no golden boy fighters fighting any top rank fighters i don't know why that's hard for u to grasp. that's why mosley left golden boy so he can get pac. like i said this ongoing war sucks for the sport but its a reality.
 
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Andre Berto – Loss not all that bad

By John F. McKenna (McJack): Of course no fighter ever wants to lose a fight, especially a fighter who is on the way up and appears to have the boxing world at his feet. Many times in boxing history fighters have lost when victory seemed certain.


When Joe Louis lost to Max Schmeling in 1936 he appeared to be unbeatable. He was mowing all his opponents down, most of them with ease. When he fought Max Baer in 1935, Baer was terrified at the prospect of fighting him and had to be half drug into the ring by his trainer the great Jack Dempsey. After a firefight in the third round, in which Baer bounced a couple of ineffectual bombs off Louis’s chin, Baer lost heart and was quickly knocked out. After the last knockdown, when it appeared that Max could have gotten up reporters asked him why he had not tried to get up. His classic quote was “I signed up for a boxing match, not a murder!”

After the Baer victory, Louis started taking his opponents lightly, thinking that all he had to do was show up and victory would be assured. He spent a considerable amount of time playing golf, which was his new passion. Training temporarily began to take a back seat. Even Louis’s trainer Jake Bladburn was not able to stress the importance of training to the still youthful “Brown Bomber” as he prepared for his fight with Max Schmeling.

As it turned out Louis was beaten badly by Schmeling and he was finally knocked out in the twelfth round. As painful as it was, Louis learned a valuable lesson in his loss to Schmeling. He went on to became a great fighter, holding the Heavyweight Championship for twelve years and defending his title twenty five times. Both of those records stand to this day. Joe started taking training seriously again and was back in the ring in three months.

When “Sugar” Ray Robinson lost his first pro fight in 1943 to Jake Lamotta after forty three straight victories, he redoubled his efforts. He avenged his loss to the “Bronx Bull” three weeks later and did not lose another fight for eight years, winning his next ninety fights in a row.

Vladimir Klitschko lost three fights early in his career after which he turned his career around. He hired Emanuel Steward and revamped his training regimen. Since that time Vladimir has not lost a fight and has become one of the most dominant Heavyweight Champions in decades. Klitschko himself has acknowledged that his loss to Ross Puritty was the defining moment when he began to turn things around.

There is a long list of fighters who have gone on to have great careers after suffering what appeared to be a devastating loss. Manny Pacquiao comes to mind as a fighter who lost three fights and went on to win not only fighter of the decade, but multiple championships along the way to redemption.

Of course it takes heart and a lot of courage to turn things around. One of the dangers for a young fighter is to start believing his own press clippings. Joe Louis noted at the end of his career that all the people who had been in his corner were now in the victor’s corner. Just like life itself, boxing is sometimes cruel. Andre Berto hopefully will rebound from his loss last Saturday night and go on to have a great career. He obviously has a lot of skill. He can use his loss to Victor Ortiz as a learning experience, albeit a bitter one.
 
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Klitschko vs. Tomasz Adamek in 44,000 seat Wroclaw stadium in Poland

By Eric Thomas: The September 10th fight between WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko (42-2, 39 KO’s) and number #1 ranked WBC contender Tomasz Adamek (44-1, 28 KO’s) will be taking place at the 44,000 seat Wroclaw stadium in Poland. This is a big stadium and it’s almost guaranteed to be filled to capacity with mostly Adamek fans on 9/10.


The Vitali-Adamek fight could have taken place at the even larger 55,000 seat stadium in Warszawa, Poland, according to fightnews.com. However, the Klitschko and Adamek team opted to have it take place in the slightly smaller Wroclaw stadium for some reason.

Unlike the heavyweight unification bout that was announced earlier today between IBF/WBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko vs. WBC champion David Haye in Hamburg, Germany, the Vital—Adamek bout will likely be a huge mismatch with Vitali jabbing and pounding the much smaller, weaker Adamek at will until the fight is ultimately stopped.

Adamek is a former light heavyweight and cruiserweight champion previously known for having big power in those weight classes. Unfortunately, much of Adamek’s once impressive power has all but disappeared with him moving up to the heavyweight division. Adamek is now a peck and run fighter in the mode of Chris Byrd. He’s like a slower version of Byrd but with a weaker chin, slightly more power but slower hand and foot speed.

It’s safe to say that Adamek is going to have tremendous problems with Vitali’s huge 6’7” height and long reach. The only way that Adamek will last in this fight is if he runs and stays out of the way of as many of Vitali’s big shots as possible. However, Adamek is going to have to come in range to land his own punches, even if it’s only jabs. This is where Adamek is going to get hit. As we saw in Adamek’s recent win over the big and slow 6’6” 285 pound Kevin McBride on April 9th, Adamek likes to bend forward and throw jabs to the midsection. He did that repeatedly against McBride, while mixing in an occasional combination. Vitali will time Adamek and land some big right hands when Adamek attempts to throw his pesky jabs. We may see this fight ending very quickly with Adamek getting stopped in the first three rounds if Vitali can stun him with a right hand with Adamek in the process of bending forward to throw one of his jabs to the body.
 
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Roach sees Ortiz as a future target for Khan

By William Mackay: If WBA light welterweight champion Amir Khan (25-1, 17 KO’s) can get through his next fight against Timothy Bradley (27-0, 11 KO’s) on July 23rd, and perhaps beat IBF light heavyweight champ Zab Judah in one more unification bout in 2011, if Khan’s promoters from Golden Boy Promotions decides to keep Khan for one more fight at light welterweight, he could be targeting WBC welterweight champion Victor Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 Ko’s) in the future once Khan moves up in weight to the welterweight division.


Khan’s trainer Freddie Roach recently mentioned Ortiz as a potential opponent that Khan could be facing when/if Khan moves up in weight to the welterweight division. It’s still an ‘if’ thing because if Khan gets whipped badly by Bradley in July it would seem unlikely that Khan’s promoters would want to risk moving Khan up in weight to take on bigger punchers like Ortiz. If Khan gets knocked out by the light hitting Bradley or if he gets out-worked and loses on points, it would be the wrong move to have Khan moved up in weight to face guys that could do even more damage to Khan than Bradley.

Ortiz, as we saw in his recent 12 round unanimous decision win over WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto last weekend, punches with a lot of power at welterweight and is very strong at that weight. He came into the Berto fight at 161 pounds after re-hydrating after the weigh-in, and Ortiz was hurting Berto with left hands all night long. Khan wouldn’t be able to run and keep the powerful and accurate Ortiz off with weak flurries. Ortiz would likely easily walk through those weak shots and punish Khan in close.

Unlike Maidana, Ortiz doesn’t tire and is able to punch with a lot of power for three minutes of every round. Khan would be in serious trouble with a bigger, harder hitting guy like Ortiz pasting him with power shots for three minutes of every round. It would be the equivalent of Khan re-living the 10th round against Maidana in every round of the fight against Ortiz. As such, I can’t see Khan lasting long against Ortiz. But Golden Boy will likely know this as well, and keep Khan far away from Ortiz if they and when they do decide to move him up to the welterweight division. It looks like Roach is just talking without being the one who controls the levers of Khan’s career