Boxing News Thread

[ArGenTin3]

"From false accusations of cheating, another retirement, absurd demands, and a rejection of $50 million dollars it's clear that Floyd Jr does not want to fight Boxing's pound for pound best fighter Manny Pacquiao."

End of discussion.

Why Floyd fans can't get this through their thick skulls i'll never know.

 

[Tony]

Why don't we leave Mayweather the hell alone until he's ready to fight. Too many people hatin' on the dude and want to see him lose, so he's not going to give in. He's enjoying himself so let him be.

Why don't we talk about unshot (active) boxers that Pacquiao could possibly face, as a matter of fact there's one fighting tomorrow night by the name of Andre Berto. Berto has been fighting southpaws as of late, is the WW champ, and is undefeated. So if Pacquiao is so bad then why doesn't he call out Berto? They're both champions in the WW division and they're both "ACTIVE"!!!!

After Berto beats up on Ortiz, Pacquiao is going do everything in his power to avoid facing Berto including making up excuses like.... who has Berto faced, he's not a big name, we fight on different networks.... No wonder Arum ran to Showtime.

Pacqiuao and his team is scared of Berto period. Real champions unify titles. The pound for pound king doesn't keep fighting the same washed up circle of fighters.

 

[bigface]

If you're clear why would you be scared to take the test? Call Mayweather's bluff and agree to the blood testing. Manny fans never want to explain why dude don't want to take the test.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^still in denial? pac is willing to take tests, this is already known.




@tony you have to admit berto is at fault too though the last couple of years he turned down the mosley fight (after the earthquake) and tried to demand 50/50 from Cotto. Those are two huge names he could have fought and he blew it.

 

[WYNO707X4]

fuck that berto hasent prove shit.....berto vs cotto sounds real good or berto vs cintron

 

[dookie1]

Im not very impressed with berto either... not sayin he CANT win 2mrw. Just not very sold on him. When fighting in the pocket his feet are squared up, he has a great lead left but leaves himself open for a counter almost everytime by not moving his head or opening his arms for a hug!!! Only thing im impressed with his his hand speed, and pac is still faster than him!!! I think Pac needs to fight him to shut people up like myself, because i believe berto is an "active" fighter that Pac can beat..... just my 2...

 

[heyzel]

Cotto to make big money for Margarito rematch

By Jason Kim: WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (36-2, 29 KO’s) is going to make big cash in his September 17th rematch with Antonio Margarito (38-7, 27 KO’s). The two fighters are slated to go it on pay-per-view at a still to be determined venue. Cotto will likely make the bigger money of the two fighters and could make $5 million or more depending on the number of PPV buys that the fight generates.

It also depends on the competition that will be competing with this fight on 9/17, because there is talk that Golden Boy Promotions will be having WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez fight on the same night and with his huge popularity, which is arguably a lot greater than Margarito with Mexican boxing fans, it could put a real damper on the numbers that the Cotto-Margarito 2 rematch brings in.

Margarito defeated Cotto by an 11th round TKO three years ago. However, some boxing fans wonder whether Margarito beat Cotto with the aid of loaded hand wraps Cotto himself has wondered, as he wasn’t hit all that much in the fight but was left a bloody mess at the end of it. Margarito’s success since that fight has been less than spectacular, losing to Shane Mosley and Manny Pacquiao, while beating a little known fighter by the name of Roberto Garcia.

Margarito lost his last fight to Pacquiao last November and is still recovering from that beating. It’s one of the reasons why the Cotto-Margarito 2 rematch was pushed back to September from the original date in July. Hopefully, Margarito’s injury doesn’t push the fight back even further.

 

[heyzel]

Bradley thinks he’d beat Maidana, Morales and Khan

By William Mackay: Unbeaten light hitting WBC/WBO light welterweight champion Timothy Bradley (27-0, 11 KO’s) thinks he has what it takes to beat Marcos Maidana, Erik Morales and Amir Khan. He wouldn’t mind fighting any of that bunch next, and is prepared to wait until next year to fight Khan if need be. He’s supposed to be fighting Khan, 24, in July of this year but he’s not going to chase him if Khan acts evasive and decides to take on other fighters.

Speaking with mydesert.com, Bradley said “I’m number one. If they want what I got, they just have to call my number. I ain’t chasing anyone…If he [Khan] wants to take the fight and lose, that’s fine. If he wants to take it later, saying in the fall or next year, that’s fine too. He’ll still lose. Maybe this fight is premature, Khan is the priority, but if it doesn’t happen now, it’s all good.”

It’s actually not all good, because Khan, with his glass jaw, is vulnerable to getting beaten at any time. He’s not good enough to take on the top contenders in the light welterweight division or at welterweight without being at a huge risk of being knocked out. Bradley needs to expose Khan before someone else does. Khan has been exposed one in the past in a loss to Breidis Prescott. For the most part Khan has been protected since then. The only real fight he’s had since that time was against Marcos Maidana, and Khan was extremely fortunate not to get knocked out in that fight.
Bradley was impressed with watching the Maidana vs. Morales bout recently, saying “Man, what I saw, I was like, ‘Ok, wow, ok.’ But I have a game plan for both. I’ll beat both of them.”

To beat a fighter like Maidana, Bradley will have to change his fighting style and look a lot better than he did in his last fight against Devon Alexander. Bradley likes to fight in close too much and that’s a style that Maidana eats up. He’s a stronger fighter than Bradley and if Bradley stands in close with Maidana, he’ll get knocked out. As we saw in the Alexander fight, Bradley can’t punch his way through a wet paper bag. He’s mostly an inside fighter who likes to wrestle and often tags his opponents in the head with the crown of his head, albeit accidentally.

 

[heyzel]

Juan Diaz wants title shot against Brandon Rios

By Jason Kim: Former IBF/WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Diaz (35-4, 17 KO’s) wants a title shot against WBA lightweight champion Brandon Rios (27-0, 20 KO’s). Diaz recently called the 24-year-old Rios, saying on his twitter page “I am back and stronger than ever. Just letting you hold my title for now. I am going to school you, and shut you up.”

Diaz, 27, could sure use a title shot right now. He’s lost four out of his last six fights and is incredibly lucky he hasn’t lost five out of his last six fights because one of his wins in the past six fights was a questionable one over Paulie Malignaggi while fighting at home in Houston, Texas. Diaz has lost his last two fights against Malignaggi in a rematch and then recently losing a 12 round decision to Juan Manuel Marquez in his rematch with him last year in July. Diaz needs to get back in the ring soon because it’s going on a year since he last fought.

Rios is coming off of a 10th round TKO win over WA lightweight champion Miguel Acosta in February in an exciting fight. Rios struggled early on with the power and movement of Acosta but then cane on to stop him. In other recent fights, Rios defeated Omri Lowther by a 5th round stoppage in November last year and beat highly hyped Antony Peterson by a 7th round disqualification in September.
Rios would seem to be too strong for Diaz right now. Rios would likely be able to take Diaz’s power shots and then hurt him with return shots and eventually take him out. I can’t see Diaz winning this fight. He’ too far gone and taken too many beatings to beat a still in his prime fighter like Rios. In a short time Rios will likely be right where Diaz is right now due to the punishment he absorbs in his fights.

 

[heyzel]

Juanma Vs. Gamboa Could Finally Happen At 130-Pounds Says Arum

By James Slater: Seemingly on a collision course are rival unbeaten featherweight champions Juan Manuel Lopez of Puerto Rico and Yuriorkis Gamboa of Cuba. For months now, fans have been talking about what will happen when the two lethal-hitting yet sometimes vulnerable warriors get it on. And promoter Bob Arum has been listening.

Speaking recently at a press conference ahead of “Juanma’s” defence tomorrow night against the capable and perhaps dangerous Orlando Salido, 34-11-2(22), Arum said the 27-year-old southpaw who has already captured belts at 122 and 126-pounds, wants to move up to 130-pound after he’s beaten Salido. Once he’s managed to win a belt at super-featherweight, Lopez’ plan is to face Gamboa, who will presumably move up in weight himself, at the new weight. But when?

Arum said he is certainly willing to put the sought-after fight on, but only when it will be a big enough deal to attract a huge Pay-Per-View audience. Arum clearly wants this battle of the power punchers to pull in many millions of dollars. And though many fans (this one included) would love to see Gamboa-Lopez happen next (after Lopez has gotten past Salido, assuming of course that he does so), it looks like we will have to wait a little longer yet.

Lopez, 30-0(27) may have some problems with Mexico’s Salido (who took Gamboa the full 12-rounds in his last fight back in September of last year, even scoring a knockdown over the Cuban defector), but he is a big favourite to win - maybe he will become the first man since way back in 2000 to halt the 30-year-old known as “Siri.” But can Lopez then move up and successfully challenge for a belt at 130? With all due respect to the current champions at 130, yes he can.

Would any fan make Mzonke Fana, the IBF champion, a favourite to beat Lopez? How about Ricky Burns, the WBO boss? Or Takashi Uchiyama, the current WBA ruler? Or WBC champ Takahiro Ao? Most fans would almost certainly look at Lopez’ chances of dethroning either guy as good to great. And, if by this time Gamboa has also added a 130-pound strap to the two belts he has already won at featherweight, the fight that has built and built would be so close to taking place.

It may be interesting that Lopez has spoken of wanting to move up in weight in his next fight after the Salido challenge - is “Juanma,” a fighter who outgrew super-bantamweight, struggling now to make 126? And if he is, could he be in trouble tomorrow night? Make no mistake, if either Lopez or Gamboa were to lose before their rumble, the clash we all want to see would lose some of its lustre. This is perhaps one of the reasons fans are in a hurry to see the two unbeaten stars fight now, while they are still sporting perfect records.

I think Lopez will win tomorrow, probably on points. Then, as long as neither Lopez nor Gamboa’s move up to 130 goes awry, we WILL get to see two of today’s most exciting lower-weight fighters get it on

 

[Grapes Of Wrath]

Ortiz reminds me of Fernando Vargas...


Berto FTW

 

[Timm]

berto is dope

 

[heyzel]

this fight tonight should be another easy win for berto

 

[heyzel]

De La Hoya thinks Khan can become a five-weight division champion

By Dan Ambrose: Oscar De La Hoya, the promoter for WBA light welterweight champion Amir Khan (24-1, 17 KO’s), sees the British fighter not only winning tonight against Paul McCloskey (22-0, 12 KO’s) at the M.E.N. Arena in Manchester, England, but then moving up in weight and winning titles in five weight classes. De La Hoya sees the 24-year-old Khan achieving super stardom.

De La Hoya said this to Sky Sports: “He’s [Khan] on the right track to becoming one of those fighters who people will talk about for years to come. He has the talent, the drive and motivation to become great…There is no doubt in my mind he can be a five weight division champion. I think he’s going to become one of the greats.”

For Khan to become a five weight champion, he will have to win titles in the welterweight, junior middleweight, middleweight and super middleweight divisions. That’s a big ask for a fighter that doesn’t have a great chin and who recently went life and death with Marcos Maidana. With all the titles there are in boxing, it’s possible for De La Hoya to skillfully maneuver Khan by cherry-picking the weakest of champions in each division and then having them agree to a weight handicap catchweight. Those catchweight handicaps really help the fighter moving up in weight because it forces the bigger fighter to take off more weight, leaving them weaker for having done it. But if De La Hoya were to match Khan against the best champions or even the second best champions, I can’t see Khan making it through the welterweight division without getting beaten a couple of times.

Khan is capable of beating the two weakest of the welterweight champions Vyacheslav Senchenko and Jan Zaveck, but that’s probably about it. Andre Berto would be dangerous for Khan, and Manny Pacquiao would probably easily knock Khan out. As far as Khan moving up to junior middleweight, he would have to be matched against someone like IBF champion Cornelius Bundradge. He’s beatable. But WBO champion Sergiy Dzinziruk, WBA champion Miguel Cotto and WBC champion Saul Alvarez would all likely beat Khan and knock him out. At middleweight, Khan would have to be steered in the direction of Sebastian Sylvester, the IBF champion and WBC champ Sebastian Zbik.

Those guys are beatable. However, by the time Khan gets to that level, those guys will likely have been beaten and replaced with better fighters. At super middleweight, Khan would have to be put in with Robert Stieglitz, the WBO super middleweight champion. He’s perceived to be the weakest of the four champions. If you put Khan in with Andre Ward, Lucian Bute or Carl Froch, then you’re asking to see Khan to get knocked out.

As such, it is possible for Khan to cherry pick his way to five titles but how much credit will he truly get if he’s facing the weaker, much less popular champions that boxing fans don’t really follow that closely or care much about. You don’t really get a lot of credit if you just win titles to add to your collection without facing the biggest names.

 

[heyzel]

damn there goes the gamboa vs lopez fight but all around it was a good night of boxing

 

[bigface]

Lopez got beat up badly. Hit with the right hand all night.

 

[heyzel]

lopez like berto was just not right in their fight tonight

 

[heyzel]

Marcos Maidana speaks out on Floyd Mayweather Jr Joke

By Johnny Benz,

oming off his victory last Saturday over Erik Morales, Marcos Maidana took the time out to speak to Boxing scribe Chris Robinson of the Examiner. Maidana spoke out on an assortment of topics, including recent reports of him wanting to move up in weight to face Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Maidana takes the remark as a joke that was lost in translation by various news outlets. Maidana tells Robinson: "It was a joke that was probably wrongfully translated. I never said I want to face Floyd Mayweather next."

Maidana went on to explain how the joke situation came to be, stating: "A boxing writer from Argentina asked me who I would pìck to make a big payday if I had the chance to choose between rematches with Amir Khan and Morales or a fight against Mayweather. And I joked by answering that Mayweather would be the most profitable fight and that we’ll like to bring him to Argentina. Also, I said that I would even move up to middleweight in order to get a big purse."

 

[dookie1]

Ortiz reminds me of Fernando Vargas...


Berto FTW

LMMFAO!




Lil vargas stomped ur boi out!

 

[heyzel]

April, The Upset Month - Will May Follow Suit?

By James Slater: The month of April this year sure has thrown out some big boxing upsets: no less than four shockers already, with quite a few days left in the month still. We saw “sure thing” David Lemieux hammered to TKO defeat by Mexico’s Marco Antonio Rubio back on the 8th of April, we saw “future champ” James Kirkland belted to a truly devastating 1st-round defeat at the hands of unknown Japanese fighter Nibihro Ishida on April 9th (and we almost saw another huge upset that same night, as the “shot” Erik Morales rolled back the years in almost out-pointing Marcos Maidana.

While last night, we saw defending WBC welterweight champ Andre Berto upset via decision by “quitter” Victor Ortiz in a thriller, and if that wasn’t enough for upset fans, we saw previously unbeaten knockout artist Juan Manuel Lopez TKO’d in the 8th by Mexican warrior Orlando Salido. By any stretch, that’s quite a lot of shocks this April has given us. But could there be another huge shocker to follow, in May?

For punters who enjoy a flutter while predicting an odds-defying upset, the fast approaching Manny Pacquiao-Shane Mosley fight could prove tempting. Seeing as how upsets seem to be the in-thing right now, maybe some fans will go out on a limb in giving “Sugar” Shane - a huge, natural welterweight - a legit shot against the Pound-for-Pound king?

Mosley, as confident as Ortiz, Ishida, Morales, Rubio and Salido all were ahead of their big chances, has almost promised he will get the win on May 7th. Not only that, but the 39-year-old future Hall of Famer has predicted how he will get the job done by way of KO. Pac-Man, taking Mosley ultra-serious, has trained accordingly, with trainer Freddie Roach saying his charge has enjoyed one of his best-ever camps. If Mosley does manage to pull it off, then, Pacquiao will not be able to blame his loss on “not being himself,” as Berto has done after his loss to Ortiz.

We will see the best possible Manny Pacquiao on May 7th. We will also see the best possible form a near-40-year-old Shane Mosey can produce. Will this combination serve to give us a great fight? Maybe. A Mosley upset win? Again, maybe.

The bookmakers say no to a Mosley victory, but they said that about an Ortiz win, about an Ishida win, about a Rubio win, about a………. well, you know the rest!