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battle619 said:
I skipped it cuz you don't know what you are talking about. If it's not cool for Canelo to do it, then GGG shouldn'tdo it either. No excuses. He's a sell out just like Canelo
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Listen, no one here wants to see the fight but why are we seeing it in the first place?

Canelhoe vs Khan = Because Canelhoe ducked GGG.

GGG vs Brook = because four fighters ducked GGG.

This is the simple shit, like 1 + 1 = 2, like A-Z, like stopping at a red light. Why the fuck can't YOU figure this shit out?
 
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battle619 said:
I skipped it cuz you don't know what you are talking about. If it's not cool for Canelo to do it, then GGG shouldn'tdo it either. No excuses. He's a sell out just like Canelo
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Bro you asked specific questions and I answered. You asked about 154, James Kirkland, Charlo bros etc and I supplied you with the information you need. If you refuse to understand the details then stop talking. If you're too lazy to click back, here is the info on 154:


Loeffler said two weeks ago he hasn't heard a word from Lara's team, said they never contact him, only talk on Twitter after fights are made plus Lara is trying to fight Andrade.

Charlo bros aren't interested they aren't leaving 154 anytime soon which they've said, plus Jermall Charlo was ordered to fight Williams in a purse bid and Jermell Charlo has a mandatory in Charles Hatley. That leaves Andrade who said he'll fight Golovkin only after he unifies 154 and he's going to fight that one bum with the WBA regular belt next since he can't fight either Charlo brothers yet. James Kirkland hasn't fought since getting brutally KOd by Canelo that would be even worse of a fight, regardless he just got back with Anne Wolfe and they are going to start training again and rebuild him. What other options are there?​
 
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HERESY

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battle619 said:
So you guys are telling me that he can find bums at 160, but not @168 or 154. I get it now. Duh, I'm stupid.
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Yes you are stupid. You have been told the same thing over and over. We have gone over 168 a millin and nine times now, 206 posted the reasons for not fighting Ward, yet you keep acting like a retard.
 
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battle619 said:
So you guys are telling me that he can find bums at 160, but not @168 or 154. I get it now. Duh, I'm stupid.
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I'm glad you've realized your stupidity. Just like you love to say that GGG doesn't really care about belts then immediately point out Dominic Wade as a bum fight, not even realizing that the fight was made because Wade was an IBF mandatory that was enforced because no one wanted to unify with GGG and that was the only way the IBF would let him out of the fight.

So he doesn't actually care about titles except that he fought Wade to satisfy the IBF's terms. Saunders bitched out of a fight with him, so they were going to fight Tureano Johnson who was the actual mandatory and he got injured so down the list the IBF went to settle on Wade. But of course, none of that matters.

You're right it's proven to be so easy for GGG to secure fights he should've told Brook to fuck off because he clearly has a line of guys trying to fight him.
 
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battle619 said:
So you guys are telling me that he can find bums at 160, but not @168 or 154. I get it now. Duh, I'm stupid.
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So your alternative is for Golovkin to fight a bum? lol

Look, he got turned down by four middleweights - Canelo (after wasting all year), Saunders the other belt holder , Danny Jacobs and now Eubank.

K2 took the only offer on the table. Fight in the UK on UK PPV against a well known guy with name, undefeated #1 welterweight, or walk away with nothing and hope to find someone else, which in all likelihood would be a "bum" which is exactly what you criticize him for fighting!

Brook isn't who Golovkin wanted. He said a few months ago that he wasn't interested in Brook because he's a welterweight. He made it clear he was focused on middleweight, which is exactly what he tried to do - Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs and Eubank. Those were the priorities and still are. He couldn't get any of them so he settled on Brook, who to his credit actually wants to fight Golovkin and has been calling him out all year.

It's one fight. He taps into the UK market which K2 has been trying to do for the last two years and this can make it easier to make future UK fights like DeGale at 168 who K2 say they want to fight, or perhaps Golovkin does so well in the UK it can generate more money for Billy Saunders to grow a pair.

What people should be pissed off about is the entire middleweight division being pussies. These guys duck Golovkin and won't even fight each other! Saunders turned down Danny Jacobs, Canelo wouldn't even fight a lesser middleweight and Eubank wouldn't even rematch Saunders or fight Danny Jacobs. It's a mess at 160 because the top guys are too afraid to fight anyone good, let alone fight Golovkin.
 
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Never understood the criticism GGG gets. For people unfamiliar with the circus going on in boxing, you would get the impression he is persona non grata. If I was in his shoes, I would strongly consider retiring. It's not worth the stress. He has nothing to prove and has accomplished everything that he possibly can. Oh and one more thing, he should flat out reject every potential deal coming from Canelo and boxers alike (who have turned him down on multiple occasions). Yes it sucks for us boxing fans, but principles are principles. I would never view him in a bad light for it.
 
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Never understood the criticism GGG gets. For people unfamiliar with the circus going on in boxing, you would get the impression he is persona non grata. If I was in his shoes, I would strongly consider retiring. It's not worth the stress. He has nothing to prove and has accomplished everything that he possibly can. Oh and one more thing, he should flat out reject every potential deal coming from Canelo and boxers alike (who have turned him down on multiple occasions). Yes it sucks for us boxing fans, but principles are principles. I would never view him in a bad light for it.
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It's boxing itself that's fucked up. Because there are so many belts out there, critics can't identify who is the best in a weight class. So unifications of titles is the best way. The only problem now is that it still doesn't define how great a boxer is. The times have changed to where we want to see fighters truly challenge themselves. So it's cool that GGG wants to get all the titles in one weight class, but we already know he's the best at 160, period. He knows it. So instead of fighting someone from the 147 class, or wait on Canelo for a huge payday, a lot of boxing fans want to see him take a risky fight. The next logical fight was Ward but now we know he ducked Ward so it is what it is. Look at all the recent greats and they all went up in weight class. We bought those fights. No one is buying a GGG fight for a reason.
 
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Adrien Broner
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These fights they making ain't making sense somebody go get seriously hurt
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I wish brook will let GGG go fight someone his size man he keep fighting these lil guys man I wanna see him fight a dam cruiserweight!!!!
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S @SpecialK Brook bro between us we know U a warrior but this fight U taking it 2 far ur people don't care bout U if they let U fight dis GUY!!
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Adrien Broner
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Fuck all these dumb ass people who never had a fight in they life trying to impress the people will get you KILLED in the square circle!!!!
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I love Cuadras Vs. Chocolatito but it's sad to the flyweight lineal title end. Just for fun..

Started with Miguel Canto beating Shoji Oguma in 1975 then,

Chan-Hee Park beats Miguel Canto (1979-03-18)
Shoji Oguma beats Chan-Hee Park (1980-05-18)
Antonio Avelar beats Shoji Oguma (1981-05-12)
Prudencio Cardona beats Antonio Avelar (1982-03-20)
Freddy Castillo beats Prudencio Cardona (1982-07-24)
Eleoncio Mercedes beats Freddy Castillo (1982-11-06)
Charlie Magri beats Eleoncio Mercedes (1983-03-15)
Frank Cedeno beats Charlie Magri (1983-09-27)
Koji Kobayashi beats Frank Cedeno (1984-01-18)
Gabriel Bernal beats Koji Kobayashi (1984-04-09)
Sot Chitalada beats Gabriel Bernal (1984-10-08)
Yong-Kang Kim beats Sot Chitalada (1988-07-24)
Sot Chitalada beats Yong-Kang Kim (1989-06-03)
Muangchai Kittikasem beats Sot Chitalada (1991-02-15)
Yuri Arbachakov beats Muangchai Kittikasem (1992-06-23)
Chatchai Sasakul beats Yuri Arbachakov (1997-11-12)
Manny Pacquiao beats Chatchai Sasakul (1998-12-04)
Medgoen 3K Battery beats Manny Pacquiao (1999-09-17)
Malcolm Tunacao beats Medgoen 3K Battery (2000-05-19)
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam beats Malcolm Tunacao (2001-03-02)
Daisuke Naito beats Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (2007-07-18)
Koki Kameda beats Daisuke Naito (2009-11-29)
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam beats Koki Kameda (2010-03-27)
Sonny Boy Jaro beats Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (2012-03-02)
Toshiyuki Igarashi beats Sonny Boy Jaro (2012-07-16)
Akira Yaegashi beats Toshiyuki Igarashi (2013-04-08)
Roman Gonzalez beats Akira Yaegashi (2014-09-05)

.. how dope is that. Something like that probably doesn't happen again. Look at the names on that list..
 
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