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[Rumpelstiltskin]

Looks like he tested positive for nandrolone (Deca). Same thing Berto got busted for. I'm not sure if these guys are really knowingly doing this. It must be in something else they are taking, some sort of mix they might drink or pill that they are given.

No one just injects Deca in an oil form alone, it doesn't even make any sense to do that.

 

[HERESY]

Pac should be ranked much lower. Klit shouldn't be on the list. Hopkins and Stevenson should be on the list with Hopkins at 10. Stevenson at like 7 or 8. Rig should be in the top 3 in my book. GGG, due to people ducking him, can stay on the list.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Without too much thought, I'd have it something like:

1. PBF
2. ward
3. Rigondeaux
4. Pacquiao
5. Bradley
6. Marquez
7. Gonzalez
8. Hopkins
9. Walters
10. Crawford

Danny Garcia, GGG, Stevenson, Kovalev, Canelo, Uchiyama, and many others are easily 1-2 fights away from cracking that list.

 

[HERESY]

I can see Crawford on the list.

Pac at 4? Nah.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I can see Crawford on the list.

Pac at 4? Nah.

No one else really deserves to be higher than 5 though. Bradley lost to Pacquiao. While JMM beat Pacquiao a couple years ago, he lost to Bradley in a lopsided fight since then. You go down the list and there really isn't a case for anyone else being top 5 imo.

 

[HERESY]

No one else really deserves to be higher than 5 though. Bradley lost to Pacquiao. While JMM beat Pacquiao a couple years ago, he lost to Bradley in a lopsided fight since then. You go down the list and there really isn't a case for anyone else being top 5 imo.

Stevenson was fighter of the year and had ko of the year. He should be ranked higher. On the real, I'd rank Canelo higher than Pac right now. In his last 4 fights he is 3-1 witht he loss against Floyd. Pacs last 4 fights is 2-2 and JMM is 3-1 as well, so I'd say they rank higher than Pac.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

We all know Pac should be 3-1, not 2-2 and that's taken into consideration. It's a minor debate as JMM is probably going to retire anyways. I could see Canelo at the 9 or 10 but I don't think he could go any hirer just yet. If he beats and looks good against Cotto, sure I think that would bump him between 4-7 (Ward is going to be dropped completely next month too).

 

[2-0-Sixx]

@naner12

Narvaez vs Naoya Inoue in Japan Dec 31

Omar Narváez expone ante el invicto noqueador japonés Naoya Inoue - Boxeo - ESPN

 

[naner12]

@naner12

Narvaez vs Naoya Inoue in Japan Dec 31

Omar Narváez expone ante el invicto noqueador japonés Naoya Inoue - Boxeo - ESPN

Man I heard Inoue took the fight against Samartlek because he wanted an easier fight due to having a lot of trouble making light flyweight but I didn't think he'd be skipping flyweight.

Maybe they saw how bad Narvaez looked against Orucuta, especially in the first fight when he Orucuta got dicked. Good fight though if you haven't watched Inoue he's huge for those divisions. I guarantee he's bigger than Narvaez even though he's jumping two classes.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

He really is The Monster. Dude is a bad ass I hope he smashes Narvaez.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Lol wow what a conspiracy! So we all know Shannon Briggs has been supposedly harassing Wladimir Klitschko for a fight, most of us suspect it's fake. And now all of a sudden the WBA has ranked Briggs Number 7 in the world haha! I guess he jumped up the ratings by releasing YouTube videos!

World Boxing Association Ranking | World Boxing Association

 

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Amir Khan, an example of what’s wrong with boxing today
October 22nd, 2014 | Post Comment - 35 Comments

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amir khan By Hector Gonzalez: There were rumors circulating a couple of weeks ago that Amir Khan was going to fight Robert Guerrero. I was looking forward to that fight, however this Monday it was officially announced that Amir Khan is going to instead fight Devon Alexander instead of Robert Guerrero.

It’s a bit disappointing because Khan vs Guerrero is the more exciting fight, especially because there is bad blood between the two. The reality is that Khan has instead chosen the safer path in going with Devon Alexander with the intention that if Khan is to be victorious he would have a shot at fighting Floyd Mayweather come May of 2015.

First of all I’m going start off by clarifying a couple of points. Some fans believe that if Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerro and Marcos Maidana were given a chance of fighting Mayweather then Amir Khan should also be granted the opportunity to fight Mayweather. There is one major difference from the three names listed about and Amir Khan, the main difference is that all three of those fighters were at the time WBC or WBA champions at 147 who actually took the belts. In the case of Amir Khan, he was handed the WBC silver belt. How? I don’t know? He’s the number #1 147 WBC top contender after beating Luis Callazo who is now ranked at #24 by the WBC.

Let’s go back a couple years and start with Victor Ortiz. First of all whether fans want to except it or not, Ortiz was the WBC Champion going into the Mayweather fight. Let me repeat that, Ortiz was the CHAMPION and Mayweather the CHALLENGER going into the fight. Mayweather had vacated the 147 belt after moving to 154, Andre Berto became the interim champion. As I recall Berto was the one that was in line to fight Mayweather and not Ortiz, in fact Ortiz was the 6-1 underdog vs Berto. Ortiz takes the belt from Berto making Ortiz the 147 Champion.

Robert Guerrero jumps to 147 and takes on the #1 WBC Challenger in Selcuk Aydin. Not the #5, #6, or #7 challenger. The #1 challenger and beats him. Robert Guerrero becomes the 147 interim champion and defends his belt against Andre Berto. Again, Guerrero was the 3-1 underdog and comes out on top.

Pualie Malignaggi was the WBA belt holder when it was taken by Adrien Broner. There was some small talks circulating that Broner could be a candidate for Mayweather. Marcos Maidana fights Adrian Broner and takes the belt from him making Marcos Maidana the WBA welter weight champion. Again, Maidana was the man who was not supposed to win. In other words these three fighters literally fought their way to getting a chance against Floyd Mayweather.

All due respect to Devon Alexander but the last championship fight he was in he lost to Shawn Porter, and his last victory was a 10 rounder against Jesus Soto Karass.

Amir Khan could do what Robert Guerrero did and fight the #1 contender, which in his case he could go after the WBA #1 contender which is Keith Thurman. He could have gone after Robert Guerrero which is the #8 WBC contender, not at the very top but at least a decent raking. Devon Alexander is not ranked by the WBC or WBA.

It seems like Amir Khan is cutting corners somewhere. To many of us fans it looks like Amir Khan was given more opportunities then other fighters.

 

[heyzel]

Devon Alexander Rips Floyd Mayweather And Talks Amir Khan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAGH2ym-QHk

 

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Devon Alexander: “Floyd Mayweather doesn’t like fighting Black fighters”
October 22nd, 2014 | Post Comment - 100 Comments

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floyd mayweather jr devon alexander amir khan By Danny Esch: In a previous article that I wrote here on BN24 “The Blueprint to beating Floyd Mayweather 2nd Opinion” I quoted a statement from Adrien Broner and in a few comments I was told that I was being “Racist”.

The quote in question was from Adrien Brown after his fight with Taylor post fight in the ring and the question was asked from Showtime’s Jim Grey: “Was he (Taylor) tougher than what you expected?” Adrien Broner’s response was “OH NO no disrespects to you Jim but he’s (Taylor) an African American I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE TOUGH”!

The whole Keith Thurman Mandatory issue is old news now and Thurman has a fight coming up against undefeated European Welterweight Champion Leonard Bandu instead of Devon Alexander.

Devon Alexander has gone on record via 78SPORTSTV to prove that he did want the fight with Keith Thurman but was NEVER offered the fight as well as Keith Thurman who also went on record saying in a separate interview that he did ask for a Devon Alexander fight at the end of this year but was also never sent the offer. These two fighters cleared up the rumors about each other possibly ducking but that waS NOT THE CASE. Devon Alexander was then asked why he was not offered a Mayweather fight when he beat Marcos Maidana convincingly and Maidana was able to secure two fights.

Devon Alexander “Me Personally Floyd looks at a fighter who is going to pose the less threat to him you know and I did my homework and I have searched every Black fighter Floyd has faced and they all gave him some what of trouble Shane Hurt him, Chop Chop Corley hurt him”.

This is the point I was making that Manny Pacquiao is not the only fighter that Floyd Mayweather has “avoided” and not necessarily out of fear but of “greater risk” to reward. Devon Alexander believes Black fighters are slicker and make Floyd Mayweather “think” more when he is in the ring against them and Latin fighters are more aggressive and “flat footed”.

Devon Alexander went on to mention in the interview that Zab Judah gave Floyd problems in the beginning of their fight and Shane Mosley also gave Floyd trouble in the beginning and he landed a major shot against Floyd. I have also done some homework of strictly current “Black Fighters” that Floyd Mayweather has NEVER fought and some have held a belt which means they did something right to rise and climb the ranks to get a chance to fight Floyd Mayweather just because he holds the belts and according to the rules for “Belt Holders” for WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO the PPV buys and popularity” are not the criteria for a shot at the title.

1. Tim Bradley former – Champion 31-1-0

2. James Kirkland 32-1-0

3. Austin Trout – Former Champion 27-2-0

4. Keith Thurman – Interim Champion 23-0-0

6. Shawn Porter – Former Champion 24-1-1

7. Kell Brook – Champion 33-0-0

8. Devon Alexander – Former Champion 26 – 2 – 0

9. Demetrius Andrade – Champion 21-0-0

10. Cornelius Bundrage – Champion 34 – 5 – 0

11. Jermell Charlo 24-0-0

12. Jermall Charlo 19-0-0

13. Erislandy Lara – Champion 19-2-2

14. Willie Nelson – 23-2-1

Honorable mention at 140 pounds

1. Lamont Peterson

2. Adrian Broner

 

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Tyson Fury: I challenge Anthony Joshua after I smash Chisora
October 22nd, 2014 | Post Comment - 54 Comments

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tyson fury derek chisora anthony joshua By Scott Gilfoid: Unbeaten #4 WBO, #5 IBF, #11 WBC heavyweight contender Tyson Fury (22-0, 16 KOs) is targeting unbeaten heavyweight prospect Anthony Joshua (9-0, 9 KOs) for a fight after Fury takes care of business against Dereck Chisora (20-4, 13 KOs) on November 29th at the ExCel Arena in London, UK.

Fury obviously has heard Joshua’s promoter Eddie Hearn opening his yap about how he thinks Joshua will be ready to beat Fury by next year, and Fury looks like he wants to take Hearn on his word by pushing for the fight.

I’d be very surprised if Hearn were to allow the 6’6” Joshua to fight Fury this year or even next year. I mean, Joshua has been facing God awful opposition since he turned pro, and he just looks flat-footed and over-muscled. He’s coming off of a 2nd round stoppage win over journeyman Denis Bakhtov in his last fight, but that was hardly a test. It was more of a lateral move from his previous fight against Konstantin Airich.

“I challenge Anthony Joshua to a fight in December after I smash Chisora,” Fury said on his twitter. “Eddie Hearn would never dream of putting Joshua in the same ring as me so stop going on about it. [He] wouldn’t last three rounds. [There is] too much talking and avoiding going on in world heavyweight boxing. Let it not be just about the money, its killing boxing. Let’s fight each other.”

Hearn is interested in matching Joshua against David Price in the near future. Just when is unclear. Price has already vowed to take Joshua’s head off with one of his big right hands if the two of them meet up. Price will be head-hunting from the jump, because he likely knows he can’t stand in there with him for long given his history of knockouts.

“Correct, you wouldn’t last three rounds. Time will tell, concentrate on your fight; hope it happens for you,” Hearn said on his twitter. “Give me a call after your scheduled fight.”
Joshua will be fighting 39-year-old Michael Sprott next month on November 22nd on the undercard of the Nathan Cleverly vs. Tony Bellew card in Liverpool, UK.

I can see Fury beating Joshua if that fight happens this year or next year. Of course, now that Fury has shown interest in fighting Joshua, I see it as the kiss of death as far as him getting a fight against the 24-year-old. No way do I see Hearn letting Joshua 100 miles from Fury now. I think Hearn is going to protect Joshua like a mother hen by keeping him out of harms way for the next 2-3 years.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

Canelo deserves to be in the top ten after beating Lara, although I don't agree he won. Officially he did. Andre Ward hasn't fought since 1997 it seems, so I would take him down just based on inactivity. I'd have Rig definitely top 5. Hopkins definitely top 10, and if he beats the Russki, that to me would easily put him top 5 as well.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Amir Khan, an example of what’s wrong with boxing today
October 22nd, 2014 | Post Comment - 35 Comments

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amir khan By Hector Gonzalez: There were rumors circulating a couple of weeks ago that Amir Khan was going to fight Robert Guerrero. I was looking forward to that fight, however this Monday it was officially announced that Amir Khan is going to instead fight Devon Alexander instead of Robert Guerrero.

It’s a bit disappointing because Khan vs Guerrero is the more exciting fight, especially because there is bad blood between the two. The reality is that Khan has instead chosen the safer path in going with Devon Alexander with the intention that if Khan is to be victorious he would have a shot at fighting Floyd Mayweather come May of 2015.

First of all I’m going start off by clarifying a couple of points. Some fans believe that if Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerro and Marcos Maidana were given a chance of fighting Mayweather then Amir Khan should also be granted the opportunity to fight Mayweather. There is one major difference from the three names listed about and Amir Khan, the main difference is that all three of those fighters were at the time WBC or WBA champions at 147 who actually took the belts. In the case of Amir Khan, he was handed the WBC silver belt. How? I don’t know? He’s the number #1 147 WBC top contender after beating Luis Callazo who is now ranked at #24 by the WBC.

Let’s go back a couple years and start with Victor Ortiz. First of all whether fans want to except it or not, Ortiz was the WBC Champion going into the Mayweather fight. Let me repeat that, Ortiz was the CHAMPION and Mayweather the CHALLENGER going into the fight. Mayweather had vacated the 147 belt after moving to 154, Andre Berto became the interim champion. As I recall Berto was the one that was in line to fight Mayweather and not Ortiz, in fact Ortiz was the 6-1 underdog vs Berto. Ortiz takes the belt from Berto making Ortiz the 147 Champion.

Robert Guerrero jumps to 147 and takes on the #1 WBC Challenger in Selcuk Aydin. Not the #5, #6, or #7 challenger. The #1 challenger and beats him. Robert Guerrero becomes the 147 interim champion and defends his belt against Andre Berto. Again, Guerrero was the 3-1 underdog and comes out on top.

Pualie Malignaggi was the WBA belt holder when it was taken by Adrien Broner. There was some small talks circulating that Broner could be a candidate for Mayweather. Marcos Maidana fights Adrian Broner and takes the belt from him making Marcos Maidana the WBA welter weight champion. Again, Maidana was the man who was not supposed to win. In other words these three fighters literally fought their way to getting a chance against Floyd Mayweather.

All due respect to Devon Alexander but the last championship fight he was in he lost to Shawn Porter, and his last victory was a 10 rounder against Jesus Soto Karass.

Amir Khan could do what Robert Guerrero did and fight the #1 contender, which in his case he could go after the WBA #1 contender which is Keith Thurman. He could have gone after Robert Guerrero which is the #8 WBC contender, not at the very top but at least a decent raking. Devon Alexander is not ranked by the WBC or WBA.

It seems like Amir Khan is cutting corners somewhere. To many of us fans it looks like Amir Khan was given more opportunities then other fighters.

Alexander and Guerrero are about equal. I'd argue Alexander is the better fighter, although Guerrero vs Khan probably would be more entertaining. Khan was also scheduled to fight Alexander but pulled out because he was led to believe Mayweather was going to fight him, but he chose Maidana instead.

 

[Lamberto Quintero]

The Garlic City warrior beats both Khan and Alexander IMO.

 

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Devon Alexander: “Floyd Mayweather doesn’t like fighting Black fighters”
October 22nd, 2014 | Post Comment - 100 Comments

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floyd mayweather jr devon alexander amir khan By Danny Esch: In a previous article that I wrote here on BN24 “The Blueprint to beating Floyd Mayweather 2nd Opinion” I quoted a statement from Adrien Broner and in a few comments I was told that I was being “Racist”.

The quote in question was from Adrien Brown after his fight with Taylor post fight in the ring and the question was asked from Showtime’s Jim Grey: “Was he (Taylor) tougher than what you expected?” Adrien Broner’s response was “OH NO no disrespects to you Jim but he’s (Taylor) an African American I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE TOUGH”!

The whole Keith Thurman Mandatory issue is old news now and Thurman has a fight coming up against undefeated European Welterweight Champion Leonard Bandu instead of Devon Alexander.

Devon Alexander has gone on record via 78SPORTSTV to prove that he did want the fight with Keith Thurman but was NEVER offered the fight as well as Keith Thurman who also went on record saying in a separate interview that he did ask for a Devon Alexander fight at the end of this year but was also never sent the offer. These two fighters cleared up the rumors about each other possibly ducking but that waS NOT THE CASE. Devon Alexander was then asked why he was not offered a Mayweather fight when he beat Marcos Maidana convincingly and Maidana was able to secure two fights.

Devon Alexander “Me Personally Floyd looks at a fighter who is going to pose the less threat to him you know and I did my homework and I have searched every Black fighter Floyd has faced and they all gave him some what of trouble Shane Hurt him, Chop Chop Corley hurt him”.

This is the point I was making that Manny Pacquiao is not the only fighter that Floyd Mayweather has “avoided” and not necessarily out of fear but of “greater risk” to reward. Devon Alexander believes Black fighters are slicker and make Floyd Mayweather “think” more when he is in the ring against them and Latin fighters are more aggressive and “flat footed”.

Devon Alexander went on to mention in the interview that Zab Judah gave Floyd problems in the beginning of their fight and Shane Mosley also gave Floyd trouble in the beginning and he landed a major shot against Floyd. I have also done some homework of strictly current “Black Fighters” that Floyd Mayweather has NEVER fought and some have held a belt which means they did something right to rise and climb the ranks to get a chance to fight Floyd Mayweather just because he holds the belts and according to the rules for “Belt Holders” for WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO the PPV buys and popularity” are not the criteria for a shot at the title.

1. Tim Bradley former – Champion 31-1-0

2. James Kirkland 32-1-0

3. Austin Trout – Former Champion 27-2-0

4. Keith Thurman – Interim Champion 23-0-0

6. Shawn Porter – Former Champion 24-1-1

7. Kell Brook – Champion 33-0-0

8. Devon Alexander – Former Champion 26 – 2 – 0

9. Demetrius Andrade – Champion 21-0-0

10. Cornelius Bundrage – Champion 34 – 5 – 0

11. Jermell Charlo 24-0-0

12. Jermall Charlo 19-0-0

13. Erislandy Lara – Champion 19-2-2

14. Willie Nelson – 23-2-1

Honorable mention at 140 pounds

1. Lamont Peterson

2. Adrian Broner

so fucken true, this has been my beef with money may for a while now

 

[TrEmEnDo InDo]

A bi-racial fight sells more tickets. Pretty obvious that's always been Floyd's game.

Not to mention Shane Mosley and Zab Judah are on there.
Don't get me wrong though, Floyd's fight with Emmanuel Augustus is probably my favorite floyd fight.