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[2-0-Sixx]

No it doesn't. Also, you should care about what a boxer says. As for speaking out against a guy, isn't Ward on like his 2765th lawsuit? He spoke out right?

I don't know what Ward has to do with anything his manager is J Prince if I'm not mistaken who is advising him to sue his promoter Goossen Tutor. He's not talking out against J Prince.

Why should I care what Al Haymon fighters say or don't say? I'm sure a lot of them are fucking thrilled to get to fight bums for big paydays. As a fan of the sport, this is just bad business and does nothing but hurt boxing. He fucked over HBO, he's fucking over SHO and we'll see who else he fucks over in the future. Eventually his tactics are going to catch up with him.

It's weird you or anyone else can come to this guys defense. He's a cancer in the sport. He's been involved in all the big fights not happening from Mayweather/Pacquiao all the way down to Quillin/Korobov. Not too mention hes been the driving force behind the promotional and network fueds.

Yeah he can get guys good money. But at what expense? You think Showtime, and HBO prior, have infinite budgets? For every Berto vs Hernandez, or Stevenson vs Fonfara, or Garcia vs Salka, that's good money down the toilet that isn't being used on quality fights. Not only does that hurt the fans and the sport that hurts other fighters trying to get paid.

 

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Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez: The Art of Moving

 

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Al haymons the best thing for boxing since gloves.

 

[HERESY]

I don't know what Ward has to do with anything his manager is J Prince if I'm not mistaken who is advising him to sue his promoter Goossen Tutor. He's not talking out against J Prince.

Why should I care what Al Haymon fighters say or don't say? I'm sure a lot of them are fucking thrilled to get to fight bums for big paydays. As a fan of the sport, this is just bad business and does nothing but hurt boxing. He fucked over HBO, he's fucking over SHO and we'll see who else he fucks over in the future. Eventually his tactics are going to catch up with him.

It's weird you or anyone else can come to this guys defense. He's a cancer in the sport. He's been involved in all the big fights not happening from Mayweather/Pacquiao all the way down to Quillin/Korobov. Not too mention hes been the driving force behind the promotional and network fueds.

Yeah he can get guys good money. But at what expense? You think Showtime, and HBO prior, have infinite budgets? For every Berto vs Hernandez, or Stevenson vs Fonfara, or Garcia vs Salka, that's good money down the toilet that isn't being used on quality fights. Not only does that hurt the fans and the sport that hurts other fighters trying to get paid.

You have had shit fights and people ducking and dodging, fighting cans and cab drivers before Haymon was even born. Stop it. These guys are putting their lives on the line so I respect that and if Haymon is able to maximize and get more money for the fighters then it is what it is.

And who cares if Ward is managed by J Prince, Prince or the Prince of Persia? The point is he is a boxer speaking out about a person in position of business authority. On the flipside you don't have ANY boxer, that I know of, who is speaking out against Haymon.

And I wouldn't blame him for Pac and Floyd, blame the fighters. The Quillin fight? Possibly but we have to wait and see.

 

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I don't know what Ward has to do with anything his manager is J Prince if I'm not mistaken who is advising him to sue his promoter Goossen Tutor. He's not talking out against J Prince.

Why should I care what Al Haymon fighters say or don't say? I'm sure a lot of them are fucking thrilled to get to fight bums for big paydays. As a fan of the sport, this is just bad business and does nothing but hurt boxing. He fucked over HBO, he's fucking over SHO and we'll see who else he fucks over in the future. Eventually his tactics are going to catch up with him.

It's weird you or anyone else can come to this guys defense. He's a cancer in the sport. He's been involved in all the big fights not happening from Mayweather/Pacquiao all the way down to Quillin/Korobov. Not too mention hes been the driving force behind the promotional and network fueds.

Yeah he can get guys good money. But at what expense? You think Showtime, and HBO prior, have infinite budgets? For every Berto vs Hernandez, or Stevenson vs Fonfara, or Garcia vs Salka, that's good money down the toilet that isn't being used on quality fights. Not only does that hurt the fans and the sport that hurts other fighters trying to get paid.

You have had shit fights and people ducking and dodging, fighting cans and cab drivers before Haymon was even born. Stop it. These guys are putting their lives on the line so I respect that and if Haymon is able to maximize and get more money for the fighters then it is what it is.

And who cares if Ward is managed by J Prince, Prince or the Prince of Persia? The point is he is a boxer speaking out about a person in position of business authority. On the flipside you don't have ANY boxer, that I know of, who is speaking out against Haymon.

And I wouldn't blame him for Pac and Floyd, blame the fighters. The Quillin fight? Possibly but we have to wait and see.

 

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As a fan of boxing and the sport of boxing we absolutely should oppose blatant mismatches, terrible cards, etc. We should never accept the "who cares he's getting money" attitude. That's disgusting.

Yes, ducking has always been apart of the sport. But ducking is business as usual with Haymon fighters, not an exception.

My point with Mayweather/Pacquiao, Quillin, etc was this - name a big fight that didn't happen lately and chances are Al Haymon was involved in some way. Floyd/Pac, Stevenson/Kovalev, Hopkins/Stevenson, Quillin/GGG, Quillin/Korobov, Wilder/Stiverne, Chavez/GGG, Chavez/Froch, list goes on and on man, Haymon is always involved. He's in a fued with HBO. Looks like he's starting a fued with Oscar. He's probably going to get Espinoza fired at Showtime. This guy causes problems everywhere just like in the music industry.

Now if you care more about how much money a guy makes than the sport of boxing than thats on you. I care about the sport as a whole.

 

[saladbowlking]

CHAVEZ/FROCH IS NOT HAPPENING?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

No, he's got Haymon whispering in his ear. He was going to fight Golovkin as well but then it was announced he was in talks with Haymon and big surprise, no GGG.

Froch may fight DeGale or Kessler III.

 

[saladbowlking]

I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO KNOCK HIS BLOCK OFF ALREADY....

 

[4fifteenRolla]

Damn sad news about Augustus. Man I still remember bein high at moms house in San Lorenzo eatin Red Apple Pizza watchin FNF when he and Mickey Ward had 1 of the most entertaining fights ever. Especially cuz I was pullim for him to upset Ward and get his shot at a nice pay day on HBO. When he got dropped late in the fight it was sad but damn was it a moral victory. I still remember Atlas goin crazy announcing that one. I hope he survives or atleast gets some major respect from HBO this weekend b4 the GGG fight. A true blue collar champion who was robbed more than a 7 11.

 

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I felt agustus was robbed in the ward fight, classic anyway

 

[Coach E. No]

That was by far the best fight ever televised on ESPN that I remember. One of the toughest and most entertaining fighters I've ever seen and pretty damn skilled too which kinda gets lost in all the other stuff he did

 

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Khan vs Guerrero set for Dec at Barclays


By Cameron Gillon: British welterweight Amir Khan has reportedly agreed to facing American Robert Guerrero in his next fight in December over in America at the Barclays Centre, in New York for the World Boxing Council (WBC) silver welterweight title and WBA international title.

 

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@naner12


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From Ali



As the reigning alpha male on the planet today, I can’t allow top P4P stars Roman Gonzalez, Naoya Inoue and 3 time Gold Medalist Olympic legend Zho Shiming to cartel glory for themselves at 112, while I am comfortable in 105, a division I subdued with ease (with exceptional respect for multi-time champion Kastunari Takayama and unified IBO/WBA champion Hekkie Budler who were willing to fight me but failed to do so due to factors out of their hand).

I depart 105 finally lifting my foot of the throat of my eternal subordinate the Thai Duck Wanheng Menayothin, who showed exceptional survival skills best found in healthy women, wellbred slaves & the offspring of submissive prostitutes.

National Thai prostitution tourism aside, I am determined to give boxing fans the dream fights they desire and the KO highlights they dream off. Therefore, I am invading the strongest division in boxing today (112), effectively challenging the top 3 undefeated fighters.

As of today I am 22-0 (KO 22), the all time greatest 105lb peoples champion, #1 Ranked IBO fighter in the world, top ranked by the WBO and all the legitimate governing bodies (that don’t demand $ in return for ranking). I have to coerce opponents into fighting me because they are rightfully hesitant, for they know that I am the greatest puncher P4P and some feel that health comes first.

Whoever wants to get KOed first, can reply and I will give him his first career LOSS by KO nothing less

Always victorious,

Ali Raymi A @Ali raymi
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Why are avocados so fuckin expensive? Fuck Al Haymon, he's making deals with the growers to fuck the fans of guacamole over.

 

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Canelo has trump card if Cotto makes negotiations difficult, Chavez Jr could replace him
October 15th, 2014 | Post Comment - 97 Comments

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saul alvarez miguel cotto julio cesar chavez jr By Dan Ambrose: Former WBA/WBC light middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 KOs) is hoping that a fight between him and World Boxing Council middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (39-4, 32 KOs) can be negotiated for Cinco de Mayo next May in 2015.

It’s not going to be easy for Team Canelo to try and put a fight together against the 33-year-old Cotto, because the chances are high that Cotto will want to be the A-side in the negotiations.

Canelo has an ace up his sleeve if Cotto makes it too difficult in the negotiations. Canelo has former WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr (48-1-1, 32 KOs), who is very interested in facing Canelo next. Golden Boy Promotions president Oscar De La Hoya is also open to making a Canelo-Chavez Jr fight next May if he can’t get the Canelo-Cotto fight negotiated.

A fight between Canelo and Chavez Jr might end up being a bigger fight than the Canelo-Cotto fight due to the combination of Chavez Jr and Canelo’s popularity in the Mexican community in the United States.

Cotto has a done a good job of turning his sinking career around recently with his two wins over aging ring veterans Delvin Rodriguez and Sergio Martinez, but there are still a lot of boxing fans who feel that Cotto has seen better days. He hasn’t convinced a lot of fans that he’s any better than the fighter that Austin Trout and Floyd Mayweather Jr both defeated in 2012.

If Cotto proves to be too difficult to deal with in the negotiations then don’t be surprised to see Canelo and Golden Boy back out and pull Chavez Jr out of their back pockets to go with that fight instead. Cotto might have a change of mind if he sees Canelo going with the Chavez Jr fight, but then it’ll likely be too late at that point.

Cotto doesn’t have a lot of options other than Canelo for big money fights unless Floyd Mayweather Jr wants to fight him again. Other than that fight, Cotto will be stuck with the likes of Gennady Golovkin, Marco Antonio Rubio, Peter Quillin or Daniel Jacobs. Manny Pacquiao is also a possibility if Cotto is willing to drain down to 150 to fight him at a catch-weight. I doubt Cotto will ever agree to another catch-weight fight with Pacquiao after agreeing to one in 2009.

 

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WBO makes Orlando Salido new 130lb champ; Mikey Garcia moving to light welterweight
October 15th, 2014 | Post Comment - 51 Comments

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orlando salido mikey garcia By Dan Ambrose: On Tuesday, World Boxing Organization (WBO) president Paco Valcarcel revealed that the WBO has made Orlando Salido (42-12-2, 29 KOs) the new WBO super featherweight champion. Valcarcel also said that the current WBO 130 pound champion Mikey Garcia is moving up to light welterweight [140].

In other words, Mikey will be skipping the lightweight [135] pound division completely. Presumably, Valcarcel had previously spoken with Mikey to find out what his plans are before making this announcement.

Mikey Garcia has fought only once this year in January due to issues with his promoter.

Last September, Orlando Salido, 33, defeated Terdsak Kokietgym by an 11th round KO to capture the interim WBO World super featherweight title to get in position to fight for the full title against Mikey. But with Mikey now having supposedly moved up to 140, the WBO is now installing Salido as the new WBO super featherweight champion.

“I congratulate S @SIR i_salido he has some ‘Mexican guts’ and is now Champion. M @MikeyG arcia now moving up to 140 lbs,” Paco Valcárcel, Esq said on his twitter.

Now that Salido is the new WBO 130 pound champion, he can take on the likes of Diego Magdaleno and Francisco Vargas in the way of title challengers. Salido can also look to fight unification matches against the other super featherweight champions Rances Barthelemy, Takashi Miura or Takashi Uchiyama.

I’m not sure if the money will be all that different for Salido to fight a unification than it would be for him to make a simple title defense though. Bathelemy, Miuri and Uchiyama aren’t big names in the United States in terms of casual boxing fans, so it might not be worthwhile for Salido to bother fighting any of them.

Mikey is taking a big risk in moving up to light welterweight to campaign in that weight class without having even fought at lightweight first. Mikey fought twice at super featherweight in beating Roman Martinez and Juan Carlos Burgos.

Martinez knocked Mikey down in the 2nd round. If Martinez was able to knock Mikey down then you can only wonder what light welterweights like Ruslan Provodnikov, Lucas Matthysse and Danny Garcia would do to him, not that Top Rank would risk putting Mikey in with any of those guys. Mikey will likely be carefully scheduled for a while until they feel it’s safe to put him in with a puncher. They can target the light hitting WBO light welterweight champion Chris Algieri almost immediately, because he’s someone that Mikey would have a reasonable chance of beating.

 

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Golovkin-Rubio winner will be mandatory for Miguel Cotto
October 14th, 2014 | Post Comment - 124 Comments

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Golovkin Rubio Golovkin vs. Rubio marco antonio rubio gennady golovkin By Dan Ambrose: WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto or Saul “Canelo” Alvarez will be facing a tough decision in the near future, as the winner of this Saturday’s boxing clash between WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (30-0, 27 KOs) and Marco Antonio Rubio (59-6-1, 51 KOs) will be the mandatory challenger for the WBA middleweight title.

We don’t know yet whether it’ll be Cotto or Cotto who will be faced with the unpleasant task of fighting the Golovkin-Rubio winner, but one of them will need to make the decision whether it’s worth it to keep the WBC 160 pound title or if it’s better for them to just vacate the strap and look for safer fights that are more winnable.

“The Golovkin-Rubio winner will be mandatory for Miguel Cotto. Just like Gennady has to play chess in the ring with his knockout strategy, I have to play chess outside the ring to force people either to give up titles or… to fight Gennady. We’re building a true world champion,” said Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffer of K2 Promotions to Fightnews.com.

Golovkin will very likely make easy work of Rubio on Saturday night. This really isn’t a fight. Rubio has good power, but he’s so, so slow and he’s just made to order for Golovkin. It’s the perfect opponent for Golovkin to dismantle on HBO. It’s a credit to Rubio for taking the fight, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s way out of his league in taking this fight. Golovkin would obviously rather take on Canelo or Cotto, but he’s had zero luck in getting either of them to agree to a fight against him. Loeffler has had equally bad luck in trying to get Peter Quillin and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr to agree to a fight against Golovkin.

Cotto should do the right thing and face the Golovkin vs. Rubio winner in early 2015 in order to show boxing fans that he’s not a paper champion, but that’s not likely to happen. Cotto will probably make a business decision and face the 24-year-old Canelo instead because that’s the bigger money fight and the one that gives Cotto the better chance of holding onto his WBC title.

Cotto picked up the WBC 160 pound title last June when he beat the shot-looking 39-year-old Sergio Martinez by a 10th round knockout. Sergio fought poorly with his surgically repaired right knee wobbling each time he’d get hit hard. Cotto’s trainer Freddie Roach said that Martinez was in his prime at the time of the fight, but that clearly wasn’t the case. Martinez looked bad even before he was first hit. His legs looked weak under him, and he moved like he was fighting on a pair of stilts.

Before the fight, Martinez had been out of the ring for 14 months while recovering from his second knee surgery on his right knee, which he tore up during his September 2012 fight against former WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. It was good match-making for Cotto and Roach to scout out Martinez and pick him to fight instead of Golovkin, but it also made them look like they were cherry picking instead of picking out the best in the division.

 

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Lucas Matthysse Out Until 2015


Junior welterweight contender Lucas “The Machine” Matthysse (36-3, 33 knockouts) made short work of Roberto Ortiz, stopping the unbeaten but unproven fringe contender in the second round of the their scheduled 12 rounder on the Adrien Broner-Emmanuel Taylor undercard on September 6, in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Adrien Broner (29-1, 22 KOs) had us all excited with the possibility of a potential fight between himself and Matthysse. The thing is after catching up with his head trainer Mike Stafford and realizing that the immediate plans did not pertain to Matthysse, and instead that they would be seeking other opponents on the same level as Taylor. The good news is that Matthysse one the most exciting fighters in the world, is in position again for a big fight. Broner called him out after he beat Taylor. That’s a great matchup, yet one unlikely to happen.

So for all you Matthysse fans I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it’s seems unlikely we see “The Machine” back in action for the remainder of this year. I caught up with head trainer and father figure of Matthysse, Cuty Barrera.

“It’s hard to say Lucas [Matthysse] isn’t training at the moment he’s not around at the moment he’s schedule to return back Monday or Tuesday of next week from vacation. What’s happening is simple until I see Lucas, and get a good look at him, it will be hard to tell you when he can return to fight. We also like to be notified at least two and a half months in advance so we can try to be psychically and mentally at our best. As far as dates are concerned that’s something that Arano will tell us with who and when it would be with,” said Barrera

With a need for 2 1/2 months notice and Matthysse is still on vacation since September 6th. It seems like us fight fans may have to wait until next year to see Lucas “The Machine” Matthysse back in the ring.

 

[heyzel]

Ex Wife Claims Leon Spinks Granted Her Power of Attorney over Medical Decisions


TMZ is reporting that Betty, the ex-wife of former heavyweight titlist Leon Spinks, who is currently hospitalized in Nevada following complications from a recent surgical procedure, has Power of Attorney over Spinks and not his current wife Brenda.

Betty says that Leon gave her full control over his medical decisions after they divorced in 2004. She tells TMZ that if his current predicament worsens then she should be the one making the final decisions.

“I have power of attorney and guardianship,” Betty told TMZ. “Leon’s care should be my decision.”

It isn’t known whether or not Spinks made arrangements to set up his current wife with the POA role, but if he did then that would trump his former wife’s legal standing.

However, if he has nothing in place with Brenda then marriage alone cannot negate Betty’s legal precedent.

While the situation is murky from a legal standpoint, Brenda has said that her husband is on the road to recovery.

We wish Spinks a safe recovery as the boxing world prays for a healthy prognosis