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Jeff Mayweather: “It’s gonna be Khan or maybe Pacquiao next for Floyd, because there’s no other options!”
By Robert Brown
Jeff Mayweather is part of one of the most well known families in boxing, the Mayweather familiy. The Mayweather name is well known in the sport mostly due to current pound-for-pound king, Floyd ‘Money’ Mayweather, but Jeff, alongside his two brothers Floyd and Roger, all established successful professional careers. ‘Jazzy’ Jeff Mayweather’s fighting career spanned nine years, during which he won the IBO super featherweight title. After his time in the ring, Jeff transitioned to being a trainer and has led many top level fighters to success.
In part 2 of my interview with Jeff Mayweather, I get his thoughts on the potential of Richard Schaefer taking over as CEO of Mayweather Promotions, possible future opponents for Floyd Mayweather, and Jeff’s current stable of fighters. Here is what Jeff Mayweather had to say.
Robert Brown: So even though Richard Schaefer has a clause in his contract, do you expect Floyd to come to a deal with Golden Boy and perhaps Richard Schaefer take up the CEO role at Mayweather Promotions?
Jeff Mayweather: That looks like that’s probably in the works. I’m not one hundred percent sure, I can’t say definitely, but it looks like that’s a high possibility.
Robert Brown: Bob Arum turned up the pressure a bit, he’s saying that the two networks have agreed to show the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, if these two can come to an agreement. Why do you think he’s done this, and do you think this increases the chances of the Pacquiao fight possibly happening?
Jeff Mayweather: It’s not so much him turning it up. At the end of the day, Pacquiao has a fight in front of him and he has to win, and if he wins then it becomes a reality, the possibility of it happening can become a reality. But, other than that, it won’t happen.
Robert Brown: Who do you think the frontrunner for Floyd’s next fight is at this stage?
Jeff Mayweather: To be honest, I can’t really say who it is because I’m not one hundred percent sure. If they do it by names — which Floyd normally does — it may actually help the pay–per-view revenue, it’s gonna possibly be Khan or maybe Pacquiao next for Floyd, because there’s no other options out there in the weight class that make any sense.
Robert Brown: You wouldn’t see Kell Brook as a possibility?
Jeff Mayweather: Why? He never done nothing. He squeaked out a decision over (Shawn) Porter and that really hasn’t done much to raise his stock. He just beat a guy and he barely beat him.
Robert Brown: There’s a possibility of Keith Thurman and Devon Alexander fighting on the undercard of Hopkins-Kovalev. Who do you think would win that fight?
Jeff Mayweather: That’s a good fight, that’s a real good fight. I think that Devon Alexander has much better skills, Thurman is probably a little better puncher. It’s a pick’em fight. I think that if Devon Alexander is really in his rhythm, I think that he’ll beat him easily. If he can’t deal with the pressure that Thurman brings, I think that he’ll probably come up short. I think whoever dictates the pace of the fight will win.
Robert Brown: How are you doing with your fighters at the moment?
Jeff Mayweather: I’m doing well. I was in DC for a fight last night, with ‘Chop Chop’ DeMarcus Corley. He’s making one more run at a world title, but this time at lightweight. He won a ten round decision but he looked very impressive, he put the guy down about five times.
We had him out maybe three out of those five times but we just didn’t push on the gas all the way. It was a big performance. We just joined forces, this is only my second fight with him. The first fight we had a KO for a WBF title and this is the second fight we worked together and it was quite impressive.
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By Robert Brown
Jeff Mayweather is part of one of the most well known families in boxing, the Mayweather familiy. The Mayweather name is well known in the sport mostly due to current pound-for-pound king, Floyd ‘Money’ Mayweather, but Jeff, alongside his two brothers Floyd and Roger, all established successful professional careers. ‘Jazzy’ Jeff Mayweather’s fighting career spanned nine years, during which he won the IBO super featherweight title. After his time in the ring, Jeff transitioned to being a trainer and has led many top level fighters to success.
In part 2 of my interview with Jeff Mayweather, I get his thoughts on the potential of Richard Schaefer taking over as CEO of Mayweather Promotions, possible future opponents for Floyd Mayweather, and Jeff’s current stable of fighters. Here is what Jeff Mayweather had to say.
Robert Brown: So even though Richard Schaefer has a clause in his contract, do you expect Floyd to come to a deal with Golden Boy and perhaps Richard Schaefer take up the CEO role at Mayweather Promotions?
Jeff Mayweather: That looks like that’s probably in the works. I’m not one hundred percent sure, I can’t say definitely, but it looks like that’s a high possibility.
Robert Brown: Bob Arum turned up the pressure a bit, he’s saying that the two networks have agreed to show the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, if these two can come to an agreement. Why do you think he’s done this, and do you think this increases the chances of the Pacquiao fight possibly happening?
Jeff Mayweather: It’s not so much him turning it up. At the end of the day, Pacquiao has a fight in front of him and he has to win, and if he wins then it becomes a reality, the possibility of it happening can become a reality. But, other than that, it won’t happen.
Robert Brown: Who do you think the frontrunner for Floyd’s next fight is at this stage?
Jeff Mayweather: To be honest, I can’t really say who it is because I’m not one hundred percent sure. If they do it by names — which Floyd normally does — it may actually help the pay–per-view revenue, it’s gonna possibly be Khan or maybe Pacquiao next for Floyd, because there’s no other options out there in the weight class that make any sense.
Robert Brown: You wouldn’t see Kell Brook as a possibility?
Jeff Mayweather: Why? He never done nothing. He squeaked out a decision over (Shawn) Porter and that really hasn’t done much to raise his stock. He just beat a guy and he barely beat him.
Robert Brown: There’s a possibility of Keith Thurman and Devon Alexander fighting on the undercard of Hopkins-Kovalev. Who do you think would win that fight?
Jeff Mayweather: That’s a good fight, that’s a real good fight. I think that Devon Alexander has much better skills, Thurman is probably a little better puncher. It’s a pick’em fight. I think that if Devon Alexander is really in his rhythm, I think that he’ll beat him easily. If he can’t deal with the pressure that Thurman brings, I think that he’ll probably come up short. I think whoever dictates the pace of the fight will win.
Robert Brown: How are you doing with your fighters at the moment?
Jeff Mayweather: I’m doing well. I was in DC for a fight last night, with ‘Chop Chop’ DeMarcus Corley. He’s making one more run at a world title, but this time at lightweight. He won a ten round decision but he looked very impressive, he put the guy down about five times.
We had him out maybe three out of those five times but we just didn’t push on the gas all the way. It was a big performance. We just joined forces, this is only my second fight with him. The first fight we had a KO for a WBF title and this is the second fight we worked together and it was quite impressive.
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WBC extends Danny Garcia vs. Viktor Postol negotiations 10 days until purse bid on October 10th
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Viktor Postol Garcia Postol Garcia vs. Postol danny garcia By Dan Ambrose: The World Boxing Council has extended negotiations between WBA/WBC light welterweight champion Danny Garcia (29-0, 17 KOs) and his #1 WBC mandatory challenger Viktor Postol (29-0, 17 KOs) until October 10th. If an agreement isn’t reached by that time a purse bid will take place on October 10th.
Postol could potentially be the most formidable opponent that Garcia has faced during his career due to his 5’11” height, long reach, excellent chin and high work rate. Garcia was very lucky to win a controversial decision over Mauricio Herrera last March in Puerto Rico, but he’ll have to find another way to beat Postol because this fight.
He’s a much different fighter who Herrera, who many boxing fans saw Garcia losing to. Garcia was beaten to the punch all night long against Herrera but he was still given the win. In Garcia’s victory over Lucas Matthysse, he clinched, moved, jabbed and low-blowed him all night long.
Garcia was also given credit for a knockout where he shoved Matthysse into the ropes and then drilled him with shots when he got tangled on the ropes. With Postol, he’s got the work rate and size to ruin Garcia’s dreams of fights against Pacquiao and Mayweather. Garcia might still get those fights, but a loss to Postol will definitely delay the fights from happening.
Garcia hasn’t vacated his WBC title yet, so it looks like he plans on staying at 140 for a little while longer to defend his WBC strap. Garcia had been talking about moving up in weight to the welterweight division to go after the top dogs in that weight class like Floyd Mayweather Jr, Kell Brook and Keith Thurman. But it looks like Garcia is having second thoughts about it or perhaps a failure to launch.
In moving up in weight many of Garcia’s biggest assets – his weight and power advantages – are much less pronounced. In the light welterweight division, Garcia is bigger than a lot of the guys he faces in this class, but his advantage go away entirely once he moves up in weight.
It’s kind of scary to think what a fighter like Floyd Mayweather Jr or Keith Thurman will do to Garcia when/if he moves up in weight. When Garcia does eventually move up in weight, he’s likely going to go for the cash immediately by taking on either Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao rather than taking a risky fight against the likes of Thurman.
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Viktor Postol Garcia Postol Garcia vs. Postol danny garcia By Dan Ambrose: The World Boxing Council has extended negotiations between WBA/WBC light welterweight champion Danny Garcia (29-0, 17 KOs) and his #1 WBC mandatory challenger Viktor Postol (29-0, 17 KOs) until October 10th. If an agreement isn’t reached by that time a purse bid will take place on October 10th.
Postol could potentially be the most formidable opponent that Garcia has faced during his career due to his 5’11” height, long reach, excellent chin and high work rate. Garcia was very lucky to win a controversial decision over Mauricio Herrera last March in Puerto Rico, but he’ll have to find another way to beat Postol because this fight.
He’s a much different fighter who Herrera, who many boxing fans saw Garcia losing to. Garcia was beaten to the punch all night long against Herrera but he was still given the win. In Garcia’s victory over Lucas Matthysse, he clinched, moved, jabbed and low-blowed him all night long.
Garcia was also given credit for a knockout where he shoved Matthysse into the ropes and then drilled him with shots when he got tangled on the ropes. With Postol, he’s got the work rate and size to ruin Garcia’s dreams of fights against Pacquiao and Mayweather. Garcia might still get those fights, but a loss to Postol will definitely delay the fights from happening.
Garcia hasn’t vacated his WBC title yet, so it looks like he plans on staying at 140 for a little while longer to defend his WBC strap. Garcia had been talking about moving up in weight to the welterweight division to go after the top dogs in that weight class like Floyd Mayweather Jr, Kell Brook and Keith Thurman. But it looks like Garcia is having second thoughts about it or perhaps a failure to launch.
In moving up in weight many of Garcia’s biggest assets – his weight and power advantages – are much less pronounced. In the light welterweight division, Garcia is bigger than a lot of the guys he faces in this class, but his advantage go away entirely once he moves up in weight.
It’s kind of scary to think what a fighter like Floyd Mayweather Jr or Keith Thurman will do to Garcia when/if he moves up in weight. When Garcia does eventually move up in weight, he’s likely going to go for the cash immediately by taking on either Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao rather than taking a risky fight against the likes of Thurman.
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Floyd is already losing the fight against Pacquiao
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manny pacquiao floyd mayweather jr By Jaime Ortega: Floyd Mayweather Jr 47-0, financially speaking might be the smartest boxer to have ever cashed out from the sport of Boxing. But his boxing legacy as far as his career entitles, is closer to have the following inscribed in the Hall of Fame: ‘49-0,’ with an inscription bellow his record that reads ‘He never fought Pacquiao.’
Everyday, Floyd is constantly bombarded over and over again by the same poisonous question that seems to never leave him and his family alone. “Floyd when are you fighting Pacquiao?”
Five years have past, and the question is just as predominantly strong as it was before. Sure the fight might hold less relevance compared to 2009, but presently the clash is still about as good as it gets.
Living in Vegas NV, every time Floyd holds an event, he gets attacked by folks who scream, “Fight Pacquiao…Don’t be afraid!” And in my opinion, negative public opinion is only going to further tumult his legacy by hearsay and reformat his career as the man who was afraid of fighting the best of his generation.
The Media is not pro Floyd. Outside of the US, The UK Guardian and the BBC, are constantly bombarding Floyd, redacting negative opinions for his lack of competitive appetite to fight Pacquiao and lie about ‘giving the fans what they want to see‘. Even suggesting, “Floyd might be afraid of fighting the Filipino.” Adding, “He likes to take pride on fighting slow fighters he knows he can beat.”
Yahoo Sports and CBS Sports have also shown pro Pacquiao support the past few months, talking negativity about Mayweather. Perhaps Yahoo Sports the most aggressive out the two networks on their approach, asking to boycott Mayweather’s next fights if he doesn’t fight Paquiao.
CBS Sport broke a story a few days ago that promoted Pacquiao’s latest rant against Floyd; the viewer ship ratings and social media shares, significantly dwarfed Floyd’s twitter response with a significant margin of numbers.
More impressively, US Today lately also joined the campaign against Floyd, by giving Pacquiao more leverage on the never ending question as an article a few weeks ago suggested by begging the question ‘Could Mayweather stop Pacquiao’s versatility?”
The Media is not pro Mayweather because of his recent accusations related with beating up his ex-wife, added with his inability to read proper English. The media tends to detach itself from sporting rode models who present themselves in a negative manner; On that regard, Pacquiao is viewed as the nicer guy without a visible ego, showing a humble attitude in front the cameras.
A long and strong supporter of Floyd, ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith has also shown signs of frustrations towards Floyd, telling him on live TV with desperate voice, “Stop saying you give fans what they want, and give us Manny Pacquiao!”
He is going to lose the media war, giving Pacquiao the psychological win. There is little doubt that Pacquiao lost the financial battle against Floyd by not accepting the initial deal, which in my personal opinion was a good deal, but only for Floyd’s benefit. But on the other side of the horizon, Pacquiao has won the mental side and the media shown more support to him than to Floyd.
Pacquiao is not just any other fighter, he holds his own gravity, and is also a Hall of Fame. He cannot be put on the same bracket as Marquez, or Canelo. He has arguably beaten tougher opponents than Floyd, including opponents Floyd never fought which were popular at the time, like Antonio Barrera and Eric Morales. Two very tough opponents who based on their records beat good opposition.
From the fans perspective, its probably not a good idea to talk about leftovers because Floyd has also fought other boxers leftovers (just look at his record and their loses when he defeated them). Also Floyd on a few broadcasted interviews said he doesn’t want to fight Marquez Leftovers, (indirectly referring to Pacquiao), but has Maidana not being the leftovers of Amir Khan? So why all the babble?
Another possibility is that if Floyd does not fight two hard opponents before he ends his infallible contract with Showtime in 2015. Pacquiao could still realistically catch up with him and even surpass Floyd in terms of legacy. But how?
All Pacquiao would have to do, is fight a few of the following upcoming champions and win: These include the likes of Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Kell Brooks, Saul Canelo as doing so, he would clearly have fought the harder competition between the two and more props would be added to his record. So, he could still surpass Floyd’s Hall of Fame rankings despite Floyd’s unbeaten record by taking on the harder opponents later on his career.
Its who beats the hardest opposition what makes any legend stand out, not who ends up with an unbeaten record. That is something most Floyd fans seem not to understand.
Not fighting Pacquiao would set Floyd’s career on a strange tangent he would never recover from. People would always doubt him. It would hunt him as long as he is alive, and undoubtedly looking at present coverage from different networks the media would lean to Pacquiao and give him the edge.
The media is not Floyd’s friend, and one thing I promise you, is that he will lose the mental battle if he doesn’t fight Pacquiao.
He needs to step up because the title TBE, his legacy, and personal life will be affected by the little Filipino forever after, and it will result in the equivalent of a loss.
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manny pacquiao floyd mayweather jr By Jaime Ortega: Floyd Mayweather Jr 47-0, financially speaking might be the smartest boxer to have ever cashed out from the sport of Boxing. But his boxing legacy as far as his career entitles, is closer to have the following inscribed in the Hall of Fame: ‘49-0,’ with an inscription bellow his record that reads ‘He never fought Pacquiao.’
Everyday, Floyd is constantly bombarded over and over again by the same poisonous question that seems to never leave him and his family alone. “Floyd when are you fighting Pacquiao?”
Five years have past, and the question is just as predominantly strong as it was before. Sure the fight might hold less relevance compared to 2009, but presently the clash is still about as good as it gets.
Living in Vegas NV, every time Floyd holds an event, he gets attacked by folks who scream, “Fight Pacquiao…Don’t be afraid!” And in my opinion, negative public opinion is only going to further tumult his legacy by hearsay and reformat his career as the man who was afraid of fighting the best of his generation.
The Media is not pro Floyd. Outside of the US, The UK Guardian and the BBC, are constantly bombarding Floyd, redacting negative opinions for his lack of competitive appetite to fight Pacquiao and lie about ‘giving the fans what they want to see‘. Even suggesting, “Floyd might be afraid of fighting the Filipino.” Adding, “He likes to take pride on fighting slow fighters he knows he can beat.”
Yahoo Sports and CBS Sports have also shown pro Pacquiao support the past few months, talking negativity about Mayweather. Perhaps Yahoo Sports the most aggressive out the two networks on their approach, asking to boycott Mayweather’s next fights if he doesn’t fight Paquiao.
CBS Sport broke a story a few days ago that promoted Pacquiao’s latest rant against Floyd; the viewer ship ratings and social media shares, significantly dwarfed Floyd’s twitter response with a significant margin of numbers.
More impressively, US Today lately also joined the campaign against Floyd, by giving Pacquiao more leverage on the never ending question as an article a few weeks ago suggested by begging the question ‘Could Mayweather stop Pacquiao’s versatility?”
The Media is not pro Mayweather because of his recent accusations related with beating up his ex-wife, added with his inability to read proper English. The media tends to detach itself from sporting rode models who present themselves in a negative manner; On that regard, Pacquiao is viewed as the nicer guy without a visible ego, showing a humble attitude in front the cameras.
A long and strong supporter of Floyd, ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith has also shown signs of frustrations towards Floyd, telling him on live TV with desperate voice, “Stop saying you give fans what they want, and give us Manny Pacquiao!”
He is going to lose the media war, giving Pacquiao the psychological win. There is little doubt that Pacquiao lost the financial battle against Floyd by not accepting the initial deal, which in my personal opinion was a good deal, but only for Floyd’s benefit. But on the other side of the horizon, Pacquiao has won the mental side and the media shown more support to him than to Floyd.
Pacquiao is not just any other fighter, he holds his own gravity, and is also a Hall of Fame. He cannot be put on the same bracket as Marquez, or Canelo. He has arguably beaten tougher opponents than Floyd, including opponents Floyd never fought which were popular at the time, like Antonio Barrera and Eric Morales. Two very tough opponents who based on their records beat good opposition.
From the fans perspective, its probably not a good idea to talk about leftovers because Floyd has also fought other boxers leftovers (just look at his record and their loses when he defeated them). Also Floyd on a few broadcasted interviews said he doesn’t want to fight Marquez Leftovers, (indirectly referring to Pacquiao), but has Maidana not being the leftovers of Amir Khan? So why all the babble?
Another possibility is that if Floyd does not fight two hard opponents before he ends his infallible contract with Showtime in 2015. Pacquiao could still realistically catch up with him and even surpass Floyd in terms of legacy. But how?
All Pacquiao would have to do, is fight a few of the following upcoming champions and win: These include the likes of Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Kell Brooks, Saul Canelo as doing so, he would clearly have fought the harder competition between the two and more props would be added to his record. So, he could still surpass Floyd’s Hall of Fame rankings despite Floyd’s unbeaten record by taking on the harder opponents later on his career.
Its who beats the hardest opposition what makes any legend stand out, not who ends up with an unbeaten record. That is something most Floyd fans seem not to understand.
Not fighting Pacquiao would set Floyd’s career on a strange tangent he would never recover from. People would always doubt him. It would hunt him as long as he is alive, and undoubtedly looking at present coverage from different networks the media would lean to Pacquiao and give him the edge.
The media is not Floyd’s friend, and one thing I promise you, is that he will lose the mental battle if he doesn’t fight Pacquiao.
He needs to step up because the title TBE, his legacy, and personal life will be affected by the little Filipino forever after, and it will result in the equivalent of a loss.
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Provodnikov wants rematch against Algieri in 2015
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Ruslan Provodnikov Chris Algieri boxing By Dan Ambrose: Former WBO light welterweight champion Ruslan Provodnikov is hoping he can get WBO light welterweight champion Chris Algieri back in the ring to face him in 2015. Provodnikov lost to Algieri by a 12 round decision last June in a close fight, and he feels he should have won the fight.
Algieri has a fight coming up next month against WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao in a catch-weight fight at 144 pounds on November 22nd in Macao, China. If Algieri loses that fight, which is highly likely, then Algieri will drop back down to 140 and be available to face Provodnikov in a rematch.
Obviously, that’s not the big fight that Algieri is looking for, because he’s been talking about wanting to face the likes of Floyd Mayweather Jr after the Pacquiao fight. But Algieri won’t be in a position to be asking for a fight against Mayweather if he loses to Pacquiao.
It would be a situation where the biggest fight available to Algieri would likely be a rematch against Provodnikov unless Top Rank promoter Bob Arum decided to have Pacquiao and Algieri fight each other again. The only way that happens is if their fight is close and controversial, which we’ve seen on a number of occasions over the years in Pacquiao’s fights.
Provodnikov will be fighting in Russian before the end of the year against an opponent still to be determined. He wanted to fight Tim Bradley in a rematch, but either Bradley or Arum wasn’t keen on that fight taking place.
It was likely concluded that Provodnikov was too dangerous for Bradley to fight a second time, because Arum will likely try and build Bradley up again so that he can continue to put him in with Pacquiao in the future for additional rematches. They’ve already fought each other twice, but it’s clearly going to go beyond that number if Arum does his job by rebuilding Bradley’s stock.
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Ruslan Provodnikov Chris Algieri boxing By Dan Ambrose: Former WBO light welterweight champion Ruslan Provodnikov is hoping he can get WBO light welterweight champion Chris Algieri back in the ring to face him in 2015. Provodnikov lost to Algieri by a 12 round decision last June in a close fight, and he feels he should have won the fight.
Algieri has a fight coming up next month against WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao in a catch-weight fight at 144 pounds on November 22nd in Macao, China. If Algieri loses that fight, which is highly likely, then Algieri will drop back down to 140 and be available to face Provodnikov in a rematch.
Obviously, that’s not the big fight that Algieri is looking for, because he’s been talking about wanting to face the likes of Floyd Mayweather Jr after the Pacquiao fight. But Algieri won’t be in a position to be asking for a fight against Mayweather if he loses to Pacquiao.
It would be a situation where the biggest fight available to Algieri would likely be a rematch against Provodnikov unless Top Rank promoter Bob Arum decided to have Pacquiao and Algieri fight each other again. The only way that happens is if their fight is close and controversial, which we’ve seen on a number of occasions over the years in Pacquiao’s fights.
Provodnikov will be fighting in Russian before the end of the year against an opponent still to be determined. He wanted to fight Tim Bradley in a rematch, but either Bradley or Arum wasn’t keen on that fight taking place.
It was likely concluded that Provodnikov was too dangerous for Bradley to fight a second time, because Arum will likely try and build Bradley up again so that he can continue to put him in with Pacquiao in the future for additional rematches. They’ve already fought each other twice, but it’s clearly going to go beyond that number if Arum does his job by rebuilding Bradley’s stock.
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I just train there. I'm actually more on the Muay Thai and kickboxing side, but the class of fighters dropped really hard lately so I moved over to the boxing side. I don't really get in and mix it up with the pros but it's good to train side by side and see what they do.
The nurtition I follow is a body building diet. Way different than a boxers diet. I can't really call their stuff wrong, because they do base it off body building (science is science) but they have absolutely no problem with losing gains. Some guys burn muscle on purpose which is crazy to me. I understand not building new muscle because you lose a ton of flexibility and agility, but to just get rid of it so you can stay at weight is dumb unless you are already at 6%bf.
The S&C coaches are the same way. Their S&C has nothing to do with the weight room, which I'm mostly in.
So ya, I don't blend in too well on the boxing side but I'm in there a lot. It's the same gym pretty much.
The nurtition I follow is a body building diet. Way different than a boxers diet. I can't really call their stuff wrong, because they do base it off body building (science is science) but they have absolutely no problem with losing gains. Some guys burn muscle on purpose which is crazy to me. I understand not building new muscle because you lose a ton of flexibility and agility, but to just get rid of it so you can stay at weight is dumb unless you are already at 6%bf.
The S&C coaches are the same way. Their S&C has nothing to do with the weight room, which I'm mostly in.
So ya, I don't blend in too well on the boxing side but I'm in there a lot. It's the same gym pretty much.
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Mayweather: Let Pacquiao Beat Algieri, Then We'll Talk
By Yuri Tarantin
WBC/WBA welterweight and junior middleweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (47-0, 26KOs)*visited Moscow as part of his European tour.*At a local*gym, a*crowd of reporters and fans were waiting for him.
And despite the fact that the news of his visit*was disclosed*in the morning, the event was in doubt due to*Mayweather having trouble getting a Russian visa. Mayweather appeared at the gym*after a two-hour delay, accompanied by*local promoters and bodyguards.
Mayweather explained some training tricks to the amateurs and showed off some moves of his own.
"I've only spent a few hours in Moscow, but I've come to understand that*Russians*are quiet, lovely and kind people. I am thankful for such a warm welcome. The support the fans makes me train harder," Mayweather said.
Regarding his win over Marcos Maidana, he stated - "My job*is to go in the ring and win. I could*have fought*better, but the important thing is that I got the victory."
And of course, he was flooded with questions regarding a potential super-fight with WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, who faces Chris Algieri on November 22nd in Macau.
Mayweather was very brief on the topic.
"Let him beat Algieri first, and then we'll talk," Mayweather said.
Mayweather: Let Pacquiao Beat Algieri, Then We'll Talk
By Yuri Tarantin
WBC/WBA welterweight and junior middleweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (47-0, 26KOs)*visited Moscow as part of his European tour.*At a local*gym, a*crowd of reporters and fans were waiting for him.
And despite the fact that the news of his visit*was disclosed*in the morning, the event was in doubt due to*Mayweather having trouble getting a Russian visa. Mayweather appeared at the gym*after a two-hour delay, accompanied by*local promoters and bodyguards.
Mayweather explained some training tricks to the amateurs and showed off some moves of his own.
"I've only spent a few hours in Moscow, but I've come to understand that*Russians*are quiet, lovely and kind people. I am thankful for such a warm welcome. The support the fans makes me train harder," Mayweather said.
Regarding his win over Marcos Maidana, he stated - "My job*is to go in the ring and win. I could*have fought*better, but the important thing is that I got the victory."
And of course, he was flooded with questions regarding a potential super-fight with WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, who faces Chris Algieri on November 22nd in Macau.
Mayweather was very brief on the topic.
"Let him beat Algieri first, and then we'll talk," Mayweather said.
Man this is getting annoying as fuck....
WBC purse bid again postponed
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
Heavyweight titleholder Bermane Stiverne and mandatory challenger Deontay Wilder have both said repeatedly that they can't wait to fight each other.
But that's the boxing side of things.
The business side of things is another story, which is why for the second time in less than a month the WBC-mandated purse bid for the fight was postponed on Wednesday while Stiverne promoter Don King and Wilder promoter Golden Boy -- with a heavy dose of input from Wilder adviser Al Haymon -- continue to negotiate a deal for the highly anticipated fight.
A purse bid, which takes place when the camps cannot reach an agreement on a mandatory fight, was originally scheduled to take place on Sept. 12 in Las Vegas but postponed until Wednesday because the sides told the WBC they were closing in on a deal.
But Wednesday's auction was again postponed with no new date scheduled.
"There is no date," WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said in a statement given to ESPN.com. "Both camps told me they are very close to a deal, so when I get back (from a business trip) I will assess the matter and decide."
Golden Boy Promotions president Oscar De La Hoya told ESPN.com on Sunday that he and King had agreed on a financial package for the fight but De La Hoya did not close the deal because King had not provided a site and date for the fight in the paperwork.
"Don made an offer. I'm not gonna say the offer but the proper protocol is to give me a site and a date and that's what I am waiting for," De La Hoya said. "He didn't tell me when and where the fight would be. We're OK with the money. But we want to get the fight done this year. Without a site and date, what would keep Don from just changing things? So without a site and a date in a contract we have no deal whatsoever."
Camille Estephan, Stiverne's manager, told ESPN.com on Wednesday night that King and Haymon asked for a delay in the purse bid.
"They feel they are close to an agreement," Estephan said. "There was an agreement but no date. That is why I believe Mauricio is being accommodating, because there's a deal but no date. On our end we are very close to a deal with King. The money is right for everybody but we just don't have a date or a place on the contracts I've seen."
King did not return a message seeking comment.
The reason there is no solid date yet is because it is unclear what television network will back the fight. Showtime, which has been putting on Wilder fights, is interested but has not made a deal, according to Golden Boy and Estephan. HBO, however, has shown no interest. A third network is a remote possibility.
The Wilder camp is also wary of allowing the fight to go to auction because of the possibility of rap mogul Jay Z's Roc Nation Sports, new on the boxing scene, swooping in an winning the purse bid like it did in late August, when it dramatically overbid -- nearly $2 million -- and won promotional rights to Peter Quillin's mandatory middleweight title defense against Matt Korobov.
Once Haymon, Quillin's manager, lost control of the bout to his onetime music industry rival Jay Z, he had Quillin give up the title and a career-high purse. Haymon, who is aligned with Showtime, doesn't want to lose control of the heavyweight also.
Stiverne (24-1-1, 21 KOs), 35, a native of Haiti living and training in Las Vegas, knocked out Chris Arreola in the sixth round on May 10 in Los Angeles to win the world title vacated in December when Vitali Klitschko retired to focus on his political career in Ukraine.
Stiverne's first defense was mandated to be against Wilder, but the purse bid -- a 70-30 split in Stiverne's favor -- was initially delayed until Sept. 12 because Stiverne was nursing a right hand and left shoulder injury.
Estephan said that Stiverne is healthy now, already training and anxious to face the untested Wilder.
"Bermane is in camp and getting ready," Estephan said "His injuries have subsided. He had a hand injury and a bit of a shoulder problem. The shoulder and hand have healed completely. We want to fight in December. That is goal. He is 100 percent now. We want to fight this year. We just need to get a date."
Wilder (32-0, 32 KOs), 28, of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, was a 2008 U.S. Olympic bronze medalist and the last American man to medal in Olympic boxing. He has rolled to a perfect record and mandatory status despite never facing any opponent remotely close to being a top contender.
With the mandatory fight having already been ordered, Wilder took a fight on Aug. 16 and knocked out journeyman Jason Gavern in the fourth round. Wilder has never been past the fourth round but said Wednesday that he is ready for Stiverne.
"For the record, I ain't afraid of nobody," Wilder tweeted. "Ready when you are Stiverne!!"
WBC purse bid again postponed
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
Heavyweight titleholder Bermane Stiverne and mandatory challenger Deontay Wilder have both said repeatedly that they can't wait to fight each other.
But that's the boxing side of things.
The business side of things is another story, which is why for the second time in less than a month the WBC-mandated purse bid for the fight was postponed on Wednesday while Stiverne promoter Don King and Wilder promoter Golden Boy -- with a heavy dose of input from Wilder adviser Al Haymon -- continue to negotiate a deal for the highly anticipated fight.
A purse bid, which takes place when the camps cannot reach an agreement on a mandatory fight, was originally scheduled to take place on Sept. 12 in Las Vegas but postponed until Wednesday because the sides told the WBC they were closing in on a deal.
But Wednesday's auction was again postponed with no new date scheduled.
"There is no date," WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said in a statement given to ESPN.com. "Both camps told me they are very close to a deal, so when I get back (from a business trip) I will assess the matter and decide."
Golden Boy Promotions president Oscar De La Hoya told ESPN.com on Sunday that he and King had agreed on a financial package for the fight but De La Hoya did not close the deal because King had not provided a site and date for the fight in the paperwork.
"Don made an offer. I'm not gonna say the offer but the proper protocol is to give me a site and a date and that's what I am waiting for," De La Hoya said. "He didn't tell me when and where the fight would be. We're OK with the money. But we want to get the fight done this year. Without a site and date, what would keep Don from just changing things? So without a site and a date in a contract we have no deal whatsoever."
Camille Estephan, Stiverne's manager, told ESPN.com on Wednesday night that King and Haymon asked for a delay in the purse bid.
"They feel they are close to an agreement," Estephan said. "There was an agreement but no date. That is why I believe Mauricio is being accommodating, because there's a deal but no date. On our end we are very close to a deal with King. The money is right for everybody but we just don't have a date or a place on the contracts I've seen."
King did not return a message seeking comment.
The reason there is no solid date yet is because it is unclear what television network will back the fight. Showtime, which has been putting on Wilder fights, is interested but has not made a deal, according to Golden Boy and Estephan. HBO, however, has shown no interest. A third network is a remote possibility.
The Wilder camp is also wary of allowing the fight to go to auction because of the possibility of rap mogul Jay Z's Roc Nation Sports, new on the boxing scene, swooping in an winning the purse bid like it did in late August, when it dramatically overbid -- nearly $2 million -- and won promotional rights to Peter Quillin's mandatory middleweight title defense against Matt Korobov.
Once Haymon, Quillin's manager, lost control of the bout to his onetime music industry rival Jay Z, he had Quillin give up the title and a career-high purse. Haymon, who is aligned with Showtime, doesn't want to lose control of the heavyweight also.
Stiverne (24-1-1, 21 KOs), 35, a native of Haiti living and training in Las Vegas, knocked out Chris Arreola in the sixth round on May 10 in Los Angeles to win the world title vacated in December when Vitali Klitschko retired to focus on his political career in Ukraine.
Stiverne's first defense was mandated to be against Wilder, but the purse bid -- a 70-30 split in Stiverne's favor -- was initially delayed until Sept. 12 because Stiverne was nursing a right hand and left shoulder injury.
Estephan said that Stiverne is healthy now, already training and anxious to face the untested Wilder.
"Bermane is in camp and getting ready," Estephan said "His injuries have subsided. He had a hand injury and a bit of a shoulder problem. The shoulder and hand have healed completely. We want to fight in December. That is goal. He is 100 percent now. We want to fight this year. We just need to get a date."
Wilder (32-0, 32 KOs), 28, of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, was a 2008 U.S. Olympic bronze medalist and the last American man to medal in Olympic boxing. He has rolled to a perfect record and mandatory status despite never facing any opponent remotely close to being a top contender.
With the mandatory fight having already been ordered, Wilder took a fight on Aug. 16 and knocked out journeyman Jason Gavern in the fourth round. Wilder has never been past the fourth round but said Wednesday that he is ready for Stiverne.
"For the record, I ain't afraid of nobody," Wilder tweeted. "Ready when you are Stiverne!!"
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Kathy Duva outlines Al Haymon's deal with NBC Sports
By Mike Coppinger
SANTA MONICA, California -- Kathy Duva's Main Events has had an exclusive output deal with NBC Sports since 2011. That agreement is about to expire, and according to the longtime promoter, Al Haymon is taking the reins.
Duva simply couldn't compete with the kind of money Haymon was slinging around in talks with the television giant. Just how much are we talking here? According to Duva, Haymon is offering NBC in the neighborhood of $20 million for around 24 fight dates.
Most of those shows will be televised on NBC Sports Network. However, four of those dates "might" be slated for primetime on regular NBC, with one of them coming the week after the Super Bowl, which will televised on NBC.
"He's promised NBC that' he's going to take his fighters off premium cable ... He's going to put Showtime and HBO out of the puzzle," Duva told BoxingScene.com ringside at the Barker Hangar on Tuesday for Curtis Steven's fight against Hassan N'Dam. "And he's going to do away with pay per view and create an over-the-top network. He's got the fighters and he's presumably got the money. I wish him the best and I totally and sincerely mean it. ... I pray he doesn't blow it, because if he does, we're not going back to (network TV for a while.) If he's successful, all the networks will want boxing."
Duva admits that the shows she's put on NBC recently don't measure to some of the offerings she's had in the past, and it's with good reason.
"Absolutely. Did you think I was going to go into my pocket to lose money on fights when I knew my contract was about to expire?" Duva asked. "The last time I made a fight thinking the deal was still in place was when I made the fight between Steve Cunningham and Amir Mansour and Curtis and Tureano Johnson. Those were great fights and I didn't make a profit.
"Sometimes that's what you do because you want to make a great show, to impress the network. ... After that, we had to change our business plan. I had to say 'Alright, I've got from now until the end of the year to get at least one more fighter on HBO. To get at least one more guy to that point where I can take him there and if I don't have a series in the future, I can stay in business.
"We've got Karl Dargan to the point where we can get him on HBO. We took the opportunity, absolutely, to showcase some fighters. And you know what I learned? Those showcase fights ... I don't think I would do them again. I have a few more dates, and I have the budget, and I'm going to get entertaining fights, and I'm going to build some more prospects."
Even though Main Events' time partnership with NBC is nearing its end, Duva is fond of the work she did in bringing boxing back to broadcast television.
"I'm very proud. We started with NBC and it was a struggle to get four dates. And we kept expanding it and expanding it. And into the second year we had convinced them that boxing is a popular part of their programming, something I'm proud of. Now I just hope Al doesn't blow it up."
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Kathy Duva outlines Al Haymon's deal with NBC Sports
By Mike Coppinger
SANTA MONICA, California -- Kathy Duva's Main Events has had an exclusive output deal with NBC Sports since 2011. That agreement is about to expire, and according to the longtime promoter, Al Haymon is taking the reins.
Duva simply couldn't compete with the kind of money Haymon was slinging around in talks with the television giant. Just how much are we talking here? According to Duva, Haymon is offering NBC in the neighborhood of $20 million for around 24 fight dates.
Most of those shows will be televised on NBC Sports Network. However, four of those dates "might" be slated for primetime on regular NBC, with one of them coming the week after the Super Bowl, which will televised on NBC.
"He's promised NBC that' he's going to take his fighters off premium cable ... He's going to put Showtime and HBO out of the puzzle," Duva told BoxingScene.com ringside at the Barker Hangar on Tuesday for Curtis Steven's fight against Hassan N'Dam. "And he's going to do away with pay per view and create an over-the-top network. He's got the fighters and he's presumably got the money. I wish him the best and I totally and sincerely mean it. ... I pray he doesn't blow it, because if he does, we're not going back to (network TV for a while.) If he's successful, all the networks will want boxing."
Duva admits that the shows she's put on NBC recently don't measure to some of the offerings she's had in the past, and it's with good reason.
"Absolutely. Did you think I was going to go into my pocket to lose money on fights when I knew my contract was about to expire?" Duva asked. "The last time I made a fight thinking the deal was still in place was when I made the fight between Steve Cunningham and Amir Mansour and Curtis and Tureano Johnson. Those were great fights and I didn't make a profit.
"Sometimes that's what you do because you want to make a great show, to impress the network. ... After that, we had to change our business plan. I had to say 'Alright, I've got from now until the end of the year to get at least one more fighter on HBO. To get at least one more guy to that point where I can take him there and if I don't have a series in the future, I can stay in business.
"We've got Karl Dargan to the point where we can get him on HBO. We took the opportunity, absolutely, to showcase some fighters. And you know what I learned? Those showcase fights ... I don't think I would do them again. I have a few more dates, and I have the budget, and I'm going to get entertaining fights, and I'm going to build some more prospects."
Even though Main Events' time partnership with NBC is nearing its end, Duva is fond of the work she did in bringing boxing back to broadcast television.
"I'm very proud. We started with NBC and it was a struggle to get four dates. And we kept expanding it and expanding it. And into the second year we had convinced them that boxing is a popular part of their programming, something I'm proud of. Now I just hope Al doesn't blow it up."
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Yeah I read that earlier too. If true he better not fuck up an opportunity like that. If he's planning on using it to showcase his fighters, he better make them competitive. I would hate to see a bunch of Rod Salka opponents.
With that said, I don't understand what Duva means by "he's planning to get Showtime and HBO out of the puzzle". There just isn't enough money to have the bigger fights on regular cable TV. Not all of them anyways. Maybe a couple here and there, which would be awesome, but realistically it's not possible.
With that said, I don't understand what Duva means by "he's planning to get Showtime and HBO out of the puzzle". There just isn't enough money to have the bigger fights on regular cable TV. Not all of them anyways. Maybe a couple here and there, which would be awesome, but realistically it's not possible.
Man, there are so many things that could go right, and so many things that could fail with those types of deals. Y'all remember the deal Top Rank had back in like 2007 with (can't remember the damn networks name right now)? That was clean. They put on decent fights and had classic fights hosted by Michael Buffer. Ultimately, it didn't work. Shows like the Contender were on high profile TV and fizzled out.
Haymon has a grip of good fighters and could put on dope shows. But if they're all showcase fights, that's going to put a piss stain on the sport man.
Haymon has a grip of good fighters and could put on dope shows. But if they're all showcase fights, that's going to put a piss stain on the sport man.
I've heard some kinda underhanded news about it from some dudes that I'm not sure I trust their sources BUT I guess Floyd is like touring the world to talk to essentially be hosted in those countries. Word is, he might be out there shopping himself in a sense to get a silly payday in one of his last fights, if not both. Something like a fight in the middle east or something. That would point towards Khan I would think in a place like Dubai who has been absolutely begging for a fight and would pony up the cash to pay Floyd like double what he's been making.
I really just cannot see him fighting outside of Vegas though. Love or hate Floyd, you gotta admit that he takes calculated risks and he stays in his comfort zone. Vegas is home man. I can't see him fighting anywhere else.
c/s Russian hoes over what he has now.
I really just cannot see him fighting outside of Vegas though. Love or hate Floyd, you gotta admit that he takes calculated risks and he stays in his comfort zone. Vegas is home man. I can't see him fighting anywhere else.
c/s Russian hoes over what he has now.
Don't get ahead of yourself yet big guy. The mathematics don't add up. You cant pay all these guys big money on NBC Sports.
We all knew Haymon has been up to something signing all these fighters like starting his own promotional company or partner with someone like Floyd for when he retires but HBO and Showtime will not be cut out, you cant finance all those fighters on NBC Sporte and ESPN, not enough money.
We all knew Haymon has been up to something signing all these fighters like starting his own promotional company or partner with someone like Floyd for when he retires but HBO and Showtime will not be cut out, you cant finance all those fighters on NBC Sporte and ESPN, not enough money.
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with their current budget, no you couldn't. But who's to say that NBC doesn't make a serious investment in boxing. Can you argue that Haymon doesn't have the best lineup in the game? That would be worth a lot of money.
Look at UFC and their FOX deal man. That deal came out of nowhere and they're on network tv regularly now and put on big shows. If someone really has some knowledge about boxing, that could be nice very everyone involved. But after knowing what we know of Haymon, I think we're all skeptical
Look at UFC and their FOX deal man. That deal came out of nowhere and they're on network tv regularly now and put on big shows. If someone really has some knowledge about boxing, that could be nice very everyone involved. But after knowing what we know of Haymon, I think we're all skeptical
Yeah Versus definitely had some cool cards, TR just doesn't get the credit for it. Adamek/Cunningham was on there, Agbeko defended his belt there before he got on Showtime/HBO, Salido/Cruz fought there for a vacant title in a good fight etc. None of those were TR shows and Versus shut boxing down as soon as their contract to host a certain number of TR shows ended because they paid so much for some bullshit cards.
It was a shame because if you take away those TR cards, they put on some good shows.
It was a shame because if you take away those TR cards, they put on some good shows.