Why are there surenos up north,and absolutly no nortenos in southern california?exaclty what homie said,nobody would last long flamed up banging 14 in la or sd.It would never happen,cause surenos control all of so cal, so it gets me when some one says "oh I ve been to la many times in all red".Homie were you banging norte and throwing up your hood?Hell no,stop being a wanna be and just be your self homie,which is basically bitch made