Bill Gates & Population Control
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No, for two reasons:
1. Once you overshoot the carrying capacity of the environment, you start actually destroying it. So after you collapse, you end up not only with reduced population, but also with degraded environment that can support a lot fewer individuals than it was able to support before population started growing.
2. Once this civilization collapses there will be no other civilization on this planet as concentrated resources will have been all used up and it will take a few hundred millions of years for the planet to reconcentrate them, and some like the high grade metal ores are so ancient that even this will not be enough. 500 million years from now the Sun will have increased its brightness so much that the planet will not be able to keep up its temperature in the relatively stable limits it has managed to keep it within in so far, so complex life will start disappearing, and eventually all life will be extinct. We have actually appeared towards the end of the life cycle of the Earth biosphere, and this is something that should always be kept in mind. This means that this is the only chance this planet has for a spacefaring civilization to emerge. Which is important for us because if we don't get out of here and into space, we are 100% extinct in the not so long term, which is not optimal from our own egoistical perspective.
1. Once you overshoot the carrying capacity of the environment, you start actually destroying it. So after you collapse, you end up not only with reduced population, but also with degraded environment that can support a lot fewer individuals than it was able to support before population started growing.
2. Once this civilization collapses there will be no other civilization on this planet as concentrated resources will have been all used up and it will take a few hundred millions of years for the planet to reconcentrate them, and some like the high grade metal ores are so ancient that even this will not be enough. 500 million years from now the Sun will have increased its brightness so much that the planet will not be able to keep up its temperature in the relatively stable limits it has managed to keep it within in so far, so complex life will start disappearing, and eventually all life will be extinct. We have actually appeared towards the end of the life cycle of the Earth biosphere, and this is something that should always be kept in mind. This means that this is the only chance this planet has for a spacefaring civilization to emerge. Which is important for us because if we don't get out of here and into space, we are 100% extinct in the not so long term, which is not optimal from our own egoistical perspective.
Pretty much none of what you're saying makes any sense. You do not come to argue by randomly throwing around concepts you have heard about somewhere but you don't really understand.
People have been examining what the most effective way to derive objective truth about the surrounding world is for thousands of years, and after much trial and error (and a lot of drama involved in realizing that they were in error about certain things) science as we know it today has emerged as the only working method. I see no reason to abandon it just because someone may see it as being "closed-minded"
People have been examining what the most effective way to derive objective truth about the surrounding world is for thousands of years, and after much trial and error (and a lot of drama involved in realizing that they were in error about certain things) science as we know it today has emerged as the only working method. I see no reason to abandon it just because someone may see it as being "closed-minded"
just because you dont understand what im saying doesnt mean shit to the rest of the world, cept to u.
im sorry but all the "knowledge", researching, and searching was as well influenced by your upbringing.
example. a person born into religion, will say "lemme go research all the religions for the truth"
does it mean his search was compelete? it might appear to be "fulfilled" , but it isnt complete because theres more in the universe than religious ideologies.
and by the way, if you actually truly looked into an objective reality vs subjective reality, you would have come across many 'masters' who have reached that goal. But once again, your scientific upbringing got you lookin deeply at science only, and not towards anything else.
ESPECIALLY not at what is the polar opposite of your beliefs.
so please, yes, keep an open mind.
tell me, lets say you start floating out into space, and see the earth move further n further away until it vanishes. What will your perception on life be then?
sorry your logical mind is a prison that confines your other half.
try for once, think with your heart and feel with your head.
take that statement as u want, because thats all thats happening between any 2 ppl.
im sorry but all the "knowledge", researching, and searching was as well influenced by your upbringing.
example. a person born into religion, will say "lemme go research all the religions for the truth"
does it mean his search was compelete? it might appear to be "fulfilled" , but it isnt complete because theres more in the universe than religious ideologies.
and by the way, if you actually truly looked into an objective reality vs subjective reality, you would have come across many 'masters' who have reached that goal. But once again, your scientific upbringing got you lookin deeply at science only, and not towards anything else.
ESPECIALLY not at what is the polar opposite of your beliefs.
so please, yes, keep an open mind.
tell me, lets say you start floating out into space, and see the earth move further n further away until it vanishes. What will your perception on life be then?
sorry your logical mind is a prison that confines your other half.
try for once, think with your heart and feel with your head.
take that statement as u want, because thats all thats happening between any 2 ppl.
If you can't communicate what you want to say in a way that will make it understood, than there is a problem with the way you're saying it
You could only say this if you don't have the slightest clue about what science is and how it came to be. Science is not biology, chemistry of physics and the collection of knowledge they have accumulated over the centuries, science is basically proper epistemology applied to everything. There is nothing off-limits to study, and the proper way to study it is science. Which means that the claim that can be so often seen when people have this discussion and that goes something like "science can't know certain things so there is a separation line between scientific knowledge and other kinds of knowledge" is basically total bullshit. If something can't be known by science it can't be known by any other method, period.
What exactly goal have the "masters" achieved if it's not a secret? If they have found a way to know the objective reality, there are hordes of particle physicists and cosmologists waiting for those answers so let's hear them
What's the point of the question?
As I said, you are simply throwing random concepts you have zero understanding of around.
The heart is for pumping blood, not for thinking. It would be quite hard to think with it
You could only say this if you don't have the slightest clue about what science is and how it came to be. Science is not biology, chemistry of physics and the collection of knowledge they have accumulated over the centuries, science is basically proper epistemology applied to everything. There is nothing off-limits to study, and the proper way to study it is science. Which means that the claim that can be so often seen when people have this discussion and that goes something like "science can't know certain things so there is a separation line between scientific knowledge and other kinds of knowledge" is basically total bullshit. If something can't be known by science it can't be known by any other method, period.
What exactly goal have the "masters" achieved if it's not a secret? If they have found a way to know the objective reality, there are hordes of particle physicists and cosmologists waiting for those answers so let's hear them
What's the point of the question?
As I said, you are simply throwing random concepts you have zero understanding of around.
The heart is for pumping blood, not for thinking. It would be quite hard to think with it
