Bill Gates & Population Control
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1. Learn what carrying capacity is
2. Do the math and you will see that if we keep growing at the same 1.5% rate as we are now, there will be 1 person per square meter of Earth surface area in less than a 1000 years
3. The most overpopulated country in the world is the USA. Because it isn't just population that determines this, it is the total environmental impact, which is the product of the population and the consumption. The US imports a lot of carrying capacity from the rest of the world (oil, raw materials, consumer goods etc.), but it has overshot its own long time ago. To such an extent that this is a big reason why all the manufacturing got shipped to China.
2. Do the math and you will see that if we keep growing at the same 1.5% rate as we are now, there will be 1 person per square meter of Earth surface area in less than a 1000 years
3. The most overpopulated country in the world is the USA. Because it isn't just population that determines this, it is the total environmental impact, which is the product of the population and the consumption. The US imports a lot of carrying capacity from the rest of the world (oil, raw materials, consumer goods etc.), but it has overshot its own long time ago. To such an extent that this is a big reason why all the manufacturing got shipped to China.
Whats the difference between genocide via disease and Pol Pot style genocide?
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You can intentionally infect someone with a disease then claim "I want to help them."
Well, I'll say this much. No fucking way in hell can the US of 300 million people become a pseudo-socialist welfare state, nor could it be a classical socialist state, nor a communist state. Too many people to achieve that goal. With a weak dollar and a fucked up economy, population control is an option. Its happened before and it will happen again. its possible.
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You can intentionally infect someone with a disease then claim "I want to help them."
Well, I'll say this much. No fucking way in hell can the US of 300 million people become a pseudo-socialist welfare state, nor could it be a classical socialist state, nor a communist state. Too many people to achieve that goal. With a weak dollar and a fucked up economy, population control is an option. Its happened before and it will happen again. its possible.
IMHO , if you dont look around you and see, there are a select few modes of living that 299 million people are living in.
I think they want population control to pillage the earth and venture into space, or they can see that with the internet and things are changing and want to eliminate the creativity off the face of the earth ASAP, and then get in their reverse engineered/engineered ufos n be out this bitch to an already known destination.
do i believe in either? i dunno, but both are probabilities.
I think they want population control to pillage the earth and venture into space, or they can see that with the internet and things are changing and want to eliminate the creativity off the face of the earth ASAP, and then get in their reverse engineered/engineered ufos n be out this bitch to an already known destination.
do i believe in either? i dunno, but both are probabilities.
I am very curious to know what exactly kind of creativity are you talking about? We are facing hard thermodynamical and material limits to growth and the only rational response to those is reduction of BOTH population AND consumption. If there is a way around those hard physical limits, it could most likely be discovered only by some "genius mind" of the kind that humanity has never produced before because as far as we know there is absolutely no reason to think that there is such a way around those limits. However, given that the vast majority of the nearly 7 billion people on Earth today are completely or almost completely illiterate and innumerate, and an even greater majority is also completely scientifically illiterate, then what kind of useful creativity to be wiped out are you talking about, if I may ask?
Unless someone takes the bold step forward and unleashes "something in the water" there is no way anything will ever be done. Dare to speak about population control and your political career is over. Try to implement it in a society without a strong totalitarian tradition (unlike China) and you will be rebelled against and run out of office by the very people you're trying to help. It simply isn't going to happen, so don't worry too much about it, if you are so terrified by the idea, at least until things become so unbearable that it will become obvious to everyone that it has to be done, but at that point it will be way too late.
Did I mentioned anything about killing people? All you have to do now is drastically reduce fertility. Every year 70 million die, 140 million are born, making for a net increase of 70 million, which is where the problem comes from. If 10 million were born instead, we would be down to less than a billion in less than 50 years (death rates will go up as population ages). However, 20 years from now it will be too late for this too, so we have to act now
The reasonable thing to do is to select at random who will reproduce and who will not, then take away the kids from the parents and raise them together while giving them quality education, especially a deep understanding of human ecology and behavior. This will also have the added benefit that by taking kids away from parents you will cut down the "I want the best for my kids, I don't care about the rest" evolutionary urge that is so destructive in today's society.
Once you have raised a sufficiently educated generation which understands why breeding like rabbits is a poor evolutionary strategy if you are a species with the power to impact its environment in the way we do it, then things can become self-sustaining in the long run.
Not going to happen of course, but it has to be discussed
Once you have raised a sufficiently educated generation which understands why breeding like rabbits is a poor evolutionary strategy if you are a species with the power to impact its environment in the way we do it, then things can become self-sustaining in the long run.
Not going to happen of course, but it has to be discussed
i could sum it all up with "the ability to think freely"
you might still be like "bought creative thought has its limits" and i agree, but WHO set the limiits? based on what?
im very spiritual and youre very scientifically inclined. I know we both arent idiots and have valid points of views. But those who want to control the masses would want our creativity/imagination/freedom to think and be original, one and the same.
tell me if thats not enough and i will elaborate
you might still be like "bought creative thought has its limits" and i agree, but WHO set the limiits? based on what?
im very spiritual and youre very scientifically inclined. I know we both arent idiots and have valid points of views. But those who want to control the masses would want our creativity/imagination/freedom to think and be original, one and the same.
tell me if thats not enough and i will elaborate
