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Expired Visa- it happens all of the time. That in conjunction with an immigrant failing to file for an unlawful presence waiver and follow the rule of immigration law further complicates the said person's legal status.

Voting on a proposition does not mean you are voting for or against criminal politicians necessarily, and voting for a candidate running for elected office does not mean they are automatically a criminal either.
 
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Expired Visa- it happens all of the time. That in conjunction with an immigrant failing to file for an unlawful presence waiver and follow the rule of immigration law further complicates the said person's legal status.
So you honestly believe the majority of people here illegally are here because of expired visas? I ask because you just said what you said and previously you said, "The majority of humans who fall under unlawful presence did not commit illegal entry."

Voting on a proposition does not mean you are voting for or against criminal politicians necessarily, and voting for a candidate running for elected office does not mean they are automatically a criminal either.
Voting on a proposition means you are endorsing a system that is broken and has been proven time and time again to be broken. In fact, you're endorsing a "criminal" system filled with institutional deviancy. And yes, I would say that any and every candidate is a criminal.
 
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So you honestly believe the majority of people here illegally are here because of expired visas? I ask because you just said what you said and previously you said, "The majority of humans who fall under unlawful presence did not commit illegal entry."
Yes, I do. In 2013, the establishment claimed 40% of the 11 million non-citizens are still here on expired visas. I believe the number to be greater and under reported.
 
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Voting on a proposition means you are endorsing a system that is broken and has been proven time and time again to be broken. In fact, you're endorsing a "criminal" system filled with institutional deviancy. And yes, I would say that any and every candidate is a criminal.
Wrong. Voting on a proposition means I am endorsing direct democracy aka participating in a decision by and for the people rather than leaving all decisions to elected or appointed officials. In fact, I am endorsing a system for and by the people. This is how we successfully defeated pension reform in the City of Phoenix in 2014. Dark money was behind the reform and we convinced enough voters to defeat it.

Are the municipal county state and federal systems perfect? Hell no, far from it- absolute power corrupts absolutely and money talks. If you don't like it though you should either do something to change it or go where there is a system you appreciate and respect. If you can't take the heat stay out the kitchen right... otherwise YOU CAN expect nothing to change.

Mine inspectors elected for mine worker health and safety are criminals? Justices of the Peace providing orders of protection to battered women are criminals? All city council members are criminals? Cynthia McKinney, is a criminal? If you say so...
 
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Wrong. Voting on a proposition means I am endorsing direct democracy aka participating in a decision by and for the people rather than leaving all decisions to elected or appointed officials. In fact, I am endorsing a system for and by the people.

Are the state and federal systems perfect? Hell no, far from it- absolute power corrupts absolutely. If you don't like it though you should either do something to change it or go where there is a system you appreciate and respect. If you can't take the heat stay out the kitchen right...
And how's that working out for you? Again, I refer you to question #1 in the previous thread. If you can't answer that we're simply going in loops. It's you making a claim, me asking you to support your claim by asking you to specific questions derived from your claim and belief and you failing to answer, lol.

It's good, you're still the fam.
 
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Breh, nothing changes overnight. Should we tear down the system and start over? I think we all know the answer to that. Is that going to happen tomorrow? No it isn't. It more than likely isn't going to happen in our lifetime. So, in the meantime I am going to push and work toward what I can do, and not worry about what I can't. Many people died for such simple things as voting, if you wish to take it for granted- I can't change that, but I can no longer ignore it myself. Just remember the crooked politicians that do run against the regular every day people, that do outspend the every day regular people in their campaigns, that do pretend they are like every day regular people are counting more on the non-voters than the blind voters. Why? Because most of the non-voters are not stupid, the hope is that they remain a non-voter. I was one for probably many if not all of the same reasons that you speak. I would rather try to do what I can than do nothing at all- and that goes beyond voting. I am involved in my community. I give to the kids who have not, I was a have not myself. I give to needy families. I have been poor and I do know that struggle. I go to community meetings, sometimes even when the pigs are there, to voice my opinions that many are afraid to speak and shed light on issues where the consensus is often the opposite of my opinion, where they are automatically pro-system and pro-police - to remind people they are supposed to be serving us and they are not our masters. I don't do this shit for recognition or to stroke my own ego, I do it out of love. Have I changed anything? No, it takes a nation of millions to change it.
 
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The funny thing is we were making major strides towards legalization for all, but then 9/11 happened... Bush was all for it but then the focus shifted to securing the borders and preventing "terrorists" from operating within these borders.

I'm all for everyone having a legal license... more $$ for DMV. Reg aint cheap for some cars.
 

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Illegal people are still people
....thus they are not immune to the laws of the land.

If I do something deemed illegal guess what?

I go to jail / prison / get fined, ect, ect.

Immigrants that come here & do not take the proper measures to become legal & get rewarded with drivers licenses... BS.

I have no problem with the USA being a melting pot for all everyone who wants to come here, but at the end of the day majority of foreigners come & take the proper measures to follow the law to stay here, like my family did.

Not no border hopper that ducks & dodges the law because chances are they dont want to do the right thing.

I am 100% AGAINST illegals getting drivers licenses.
 
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& to top it off, the road signs here are in ENGLISH & that is the native tongue spoken in the country in 2015, like it or not.

the drivers handbooks & DMV tests should NOT be in another language.

if you cant read the handbook & the test, then you cant read the road signs & 99.9% of you drive like SHIT & fuck up the roads

BART, lightrail, metro, transit... whatever you call it til you become legal & can read that fucking test / handbook.
 

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& to top it off, the road signs here are in ENGLISH & that is the native tongue spoken in the country in 2015, like it or not.

the drivers handbooks & DMV tests should NOT be in another language.

if you cant read the handbook & the test, then you cant read the road signs & 99.9% of you drive like SHIT & fuck up the roads

BART, lightrail, metro, transit... whatever you call it til you become legal & can read that fucking test / handbook.
THIS^^^


also the same shit carries over into other areas too..

like at traffic court. everyone else is forced to take an extra hour out of their day, while the same recording in another language has to play before the judge comes in. TF?
 
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Illegal immigration does not bother me, especially considering the majority of illegal immigrants are descendants of indigenous people from the same land they call the USA. The other side of that coin though, which other country in the "Americas" allows illegal immigrants, who entered the country illegally or overstayed their visas, the equivalent of immunity and affords them the same constitutional rights and other privileges intended for its legal citizens? My guess is a big fat ZERO. It is laughable that the countries that keep their citizenry in poverty and have horrible human rights histories (yes US is not innocent in either of these areas either) are the same ones pouring their citizens into the US and attempt to internationally shame the US for its policies. Obama probably should nuke or drone em all just on gp or at least gut punch em.
 
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