Atheism quotes

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"It appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against christianity and theism produce hardly any effect on the public; and freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men's minds which follows from the advance of science." [Darwin]


"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." [Voltaire]

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." [Einstein]

"Faith means not wanting to know what is true." [Nietzsche]

"I cannot believe in the immortality of the soul.... No, all this talk of an existence for us, as individuals, beyond the grave is wrong. It is born of our tenacity of life – our desire to go on living … our dread of coming to an end." [Edison]

"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." [Lincoln]

"Religion is a byproduct of fear. For much of human history, it may have been a necessary evil, but why was it more evil than necessary? Isn't killing people in the name of God a pretty good definition of insanity?" [Arthur C. Clarke]

"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies." [Thomas Jefferson]

"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile." [Kurt Vonnegut]

"Religion is based . . . mainly on fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand. . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race." [Bertrand Russell]
 
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Ok, just to point one thing out, Before Darwin died, it's up for debate, but he Gave his life up to Christ, whether he admitted Evolution or Darwinism was a sin or not, many believe he conformed.
 
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I was very near death and "redidcated my life to Jesus".

I won't say his belief or absolute last minute conversion was fake or illegitimate (it might have been). I just know that you can go through alot of wild shit in your head when you're in that situation, and your head is not all there.

Once again, I won't make a direct connection between theism and being illogical or stupid. I wouldn't always take the words of the weak or infirmed as exactly what they would have done or said in any other condition.

I, personally, have worked out how I will think and feel the next time I really am near death. Getting through the experience helped me realize what I believed...that, in fact, my own "Christianity" was born out of fear, conformity, and weakness.
 
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The Red Sin said:
Ok, just to point one thing out, Before Darwin died, it's up for debate, but he Gave his life up to Christ, whether he admitted Evolution or Darwinism was a sin or not, many believe he conformed.
And do you think that negates any of what he wrote/said? People understood the things he talked about because it was sound, not because they had faith in him.
 
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Ethereal said:
And do you think that negates any of what he wrote/said? People understood the things he talked about because it was sound, not because they had faith in him.
If his beliefs/theories were against the notion of the existence of God, then yes, it negates anything he's presented against God, because he contradicts himself. Many Scientists, I believe 40% are creationists, believing that the world was created through ID.
 
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The Red Sin said:
Ok, just to point one thing out, Before Darwin died, it's up for debate, but he Gave his life up to Christ, whether he admitted Evolution or Darwinism was a sin or not, many believe he conformed.
Not true. His son Francis debunked this..and I just got done writing an obsessive 30-something page biography on Darwin a couple weeks ago and I'm sure I would have found something more convincing than a rumor to support this.
 

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The Red Sin said:
Ok, just to point one thing out, Before Darwin died, it's up for debate, but he Gave his life up to Christ, whether he admitted Evolution or Darwinism was a sin or not, many believe he conformed.
I would like to see an equivalent list of quotes from people who believe in God....

Most people in the intelectual elite in the last 150 years were atheists, there is a reason for that...
 
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The Red Sin said:
Ok, just to point one thing out, Before Darwin died, it's up for debate, but he Gave his life up to Christ, whether he admitted Evolution or Darwinism was a sin or not, many believe he conformed.
This is a big lie that's been proven false but continues to be spewed out by numbnuts such as yourself. Even if true, it's irrelevant to his work and also to this thread.
 
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Since you have him on ignore I'll post it for you (since it was a legitimate point).

ThaG:

when he says that 40% of scientists believe in God, he conveniently forgets to mention what kind of people are included in this statistic - it includes mathematicians, chemists, atmospheric science folks and so on

but it is really only theoretical physicists (not even the applied physicists) and biologists whose science is in conflict with faith, because they deal with facts and ideas contradicting it every day

the percentage of biologists who are believers is less than 10

the question of whether God exists is essentially the question of how the universe appeared and how we appeared in this universe and what our place is in it

a lot of branches of science never deal with these issues so it's possible for those scientists to believe in God and boost stats
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
This is a big lie that's been proven false but continues to be spewed out by numbnuts such as yourself. Even if true, it's irrelevant to his work and also to this thread.
Alright, oh yeah @Jesse thanks for telling me how to remove someone from Ignore, and @Comrade thanks for posting his post.
 

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n9newunsixx5150 said:
And you know, although Einstein rejected a personal God who gives reward and punishment, he very much saw a great intelligence behind the workings of the universe. Ergo, he doesn't qualify as a full on atheist.
But isn't it the existence of a personal God that religions are preaching?
 
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you can be religiously spiritual without being religious

A 'personal God' was brought about by our own species, in an attempt to personify a force that many scientists have credited with (at the very least) kicking off the 'big bang'...

It basically boils down to the fact that most of us as mortal beings, believe in the existence of an incomprehensibly omnipotent force that is ridiculously beyond the limited confines of our own existence...

However, unlike many practitioners of institutionalized religion, a responsible scientist would not have the audacity to make any pretentious assumptions about such a force...

To assign such a force human characteristics and traits might be a reflection of our arrogance as a species... to name this force (God)... to determine the sex (male)... to label it as having a paradox of emotions (compassion, ruthlessness)... to say 'he' speaks to us... judges us... wow, the ego of some of these poor souls!

I can't blame 'em though... in a world of 6 billion plus, it can be hard to feel special... to think that one is an image of 'god' is a good consolation, considering the mediocricy of the average human's existence... and if that gives one peace of mind and doesn't cause the harm of others, then s'all good with me! Buddha bless...

I'm more than willing to respect anyone's faith... but because I may not share in certain beliefs, many members of the 'personal god' based religions would love to have me eriadicated from the face earth; and I'm sure that a fashion similar to that endured by my ancestors would be most preferable, as then I would be forgotten and my offspring would survive only if converted...

Either way, by using eternal damnation and suffering as means to further fuel their propaganda of fear and terror, organized religion's legitimacy will always be in question...

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