HERESY said:
1. I HAVE THAT MOVIE. REMY WAS LOOKING TO BE ACCEPTED AND IT SO HAPPENS THAT HE WAS ACCEPTED BY RACIST. NO ONE IS BORN "RACIST". RACISM IS A 3 STEP PROCESS. IT MUST FIRST BE *TAUGHT*, AFTER THAT IT MUST BE *ACCEPTED* AND FINALLY IT MUST BE *PRACTICED*.
Thats all correct but number two doesn't just happen. People teach and practice racism every day, but one doesn't just accept it because it's there or it sounds interesting (not saying it never does). I believe that white people accept racism because of their expierences with those who they are eventually prejudice against. Remy may have accepted it, but it was based on how black people at that school treated him. Look how he acted when those Nazi's brought him in, he was scared, confused, and wasn't really down for the cause. Then more shit happened to him, and he built up this hatred for those who he believed were doing him wrong, black people.
HERESY said:
COME ON NITRO THAT IS ***NOT*** WHAT HE SAID. PLEASE QUOTE HIM AS SAYING ALL WHITE PEOPLE WERE MATERIALISTIC DEVILS WHO HUNT DOWN NON WHITES? I'LL QUOTE HIM FOR YOU BECAUSE YOUR ASSESSMENT IS WAAAAAAAY OFF.
I said: "Saying that all white people are materialistic devils.."
He said: "that the trendy materialistic devils of america want"
I said: "who hunt down non-whites like Ice-T"
He said: "it seems anyone is fair game in this real game of surival...much like those mofos hunt down ice t in that one movie..."
Much like those mofos that hunt down Ice-T in that movie... Heresy, he said "much like" that movie. Now what are the details of that movie, a bunch of white guys hunting down a black man? Come on now. I understand that we interpret his post differently, but this shit is obvious to me.
HERESY said:
NOTE THAT HIS RESPONSE WAS *ANYONE* IS FAIR GAME. HE DID *NOT* LIMIT IT TO "NON-WHITES" LIKE YOU IMPLY. HE IS COMPARING THE REAL WORLD TO THE MOVIE WHERE ICE-T WAS HUNTED. HE DIDN'T COMPARE ICE-T TO MATERIALISTIC DEVILS AS NOTED IN THE NEXT QUOTE:
THIS IS HIS QUOTE: "it seems anyone is fair game in this real game of surival...much like those mofos hunt down ice t in that one movie...everyones got a bullseye on them if they got something of value that the trendy materialistic devils of america want."
That all goes together if you ask me (and probably anyone else on this board).
HERESY said:
ASK G DID NOT USE ONE RACIAL SLUR IN HIS POST. YOU CALLING SOMEONE A NIGGER IS NOT THE SAME AS SOMEONE GIVING AN OPINION ON CERTAIN PEOPLE AND CERTAIN EVENTS. IMHO THIS POST CLEARLY SHOWS HOW MANY OF YOU PRACTICE "BLIND RACISM" AND HAVE NOT COME TO GRIPS WITH CERTAIN ROLES "WHITE" PEOPLE HAVE PLAYED IN HUMANITY.
He did not use racial slurs, but the fact that he pointed the finger at "white" people makes it extremely racist. What does skin color have to do with the will to cause destruction? There is no point in highlighting every destructive event in history that people with "white" skin were behind. To use such useless information and stereotype white people based upon this information is extremely racist, and if you don't see this, then I honestly think you are a prime example of the very blind racism you talk about. The fact that you defend him and the things he said prove this to me. I have come to grips with everything people of "white" skin have done in the past, I just don't see the need to emphasise it and stereotype "white" people as a whole based on it. What he has done here is *no different* then me studying the history of terrorist networks, and then labeling everyone of middle-eastern decent a terrorist. If he made the same post with evidence and support that having white skin is relevant to destruction, then I would have looked at it differently. But given his previous posts, where he called white people evil, I would have to say he is not interested in teaching anyone anything useful or positive.
HERESY said:
YES EVERYONE HAS CAUSED DESTRUCTION THROUGHOUT TIME BUT NO "RACE" HAS CAUSED MORE DESTRUCTION THAN THE CAUCASOID GROUP. I'VE YET TO HEAR OF ASIANS TRAVELLING TO AFRIKA TO SNATCH SLAVES TO HARVEST RICE CROPS. I'VE YET TO HEAR OF AFRIKANS TRAVELLING TO THE "AMERICA'S" TO SMASH ON NATIVE AMERICANS. I'VE YET TO HEAR OF NATIVE AMERICANS TRAVELLING TO EUROPE AND FORCING THEM ON A "TRAIL OF TEARS".
I am not denying any of this. My point is, does this mean *anything* more than just a fucked up useless statistic on paper? Is this more than just a coincidence? If you *don't know* you shouldn't be agreeing with him in the first place. And if you think there is something to this, that maybe the color of ones skin is relevant to the destruction he causes, then let me hear your theory. What is the significance of skin color and the destruction one causes bearing the 3 different racial colors (as catagorized by scientists)?
HERESY said:
ONCE AGAIN EVERY RACE HAS CAUSED DESTRUCTION BUT WHO HAS CAUSED THE MOST DESTRUCTION? LOOKING AT ALL THE GREAT EMPIRES FROM GREECE TO THE PRESENT AGE SHOULD GIVE YOU A CLUE.
Are you going to pin these events on a race of people rather than the government (leader
) who caused it to happen? There are empires that were built by leaders who craved power, were greedy, lustful, etc. These properties of a human can drive them into a different way of thinking, seperate from the "average" person who he has control over. You can not hold a race of humans responsible for what few did. askG made a reference to Bush but doesn't know of the minority population who are actually doing the destruction along with "white" people under him.
HERESY if someone was brainwashed to believe something, then acted on it, would you blame him?
If you do not blame him, then you should be targeting Hitler, not Germany or "white" people; Musolinni not Italy or "white" people etc. etc. etc. Assessments should be made by a quality of a race that is consistant with everyone who makes up that race, not by few of them in the spotlight who lead an invasion or cause some sort of destruction. White people in the United States, from the beginning of slavery to recent history is something you could go on, because for the most part, it was consistant with *all* whites, that they enslave and inflict harm upon African Americans.
HERESY said:
DID ASK G LABEL AND STEREOTYPE ANY SPECIFIC GROUP AS EVIL DEVIL PREDATORS? NO. YOU SHOULDN'T SAY FUCK THOSE SCIENTIST NITRO. THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO YOU. MY REASON FOR LISTING THEM WAS TO PROVE THAT "WHITES" HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE GROUPED AS A RACE.
Yes askG did stereotype groups as both "evil" and "materialistic devil predators". If you want to find his "evil" quote, you can check out the "white racism.." thread started by WHITE DEVIL. His statement in the thread was "ill jus say white ppl are evil". Know that, and re-read this post and maybe you might see the racism.
HERESY said:
NO ACTUALLY I DIDN'T MAKE THE THING UP TO PISS PEOPLE OFF. I'M ALMOST RUNNING LATE FOR DAWN OF THE DEAD BUT LET ME SAY THIS. READ WHAT HE POSTED....LOOK AT WHAT YOU POSTED IN RESPONSE TO HIM AND AFTER THAT READ A HISTORY BOOK....
I read what he posted; racism, provocation, prejudice, and stereotyping.
I read what I posted; a *reaction* to such prejudices.
History books? I have to assume that you are saying my reaction is similar (but less potent and powerful) to those of "white" skinned people who caused destruction. But I got just one question for you, who said this:
"..and I am going to tape the beating"
Now read a history book.