Any muslims here?
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^^^^It is true that a lot of Muslims find it difficult to keep on the right path here. The environment is such that it goes against all the teachings of Islam. In addition, the culture is so strong and dominating that it is difficult to resist it. I have a lot of friends and relatives whose parents are really religious, but they drink, smoke weed, commit adultery, etc.
@Willy,
Now you call me a bitch?
What ever makes you feel better about yourself bro.
Your actions defy the derogatory name you gave me so I can care less.
Any how, I take that you are Muslim from birth.
I have no interest in people like you, Muslim, Budhist, Christian, because your personal beliefs defy your character.
You see, people like that are taught what to believe in at an early age. And this belief sticks with them and becomes part of their mentality. Thus making it almost impossible for these people to accept new ideas.
Unless these people humble their egoistic ways,
only then can they open up to the truth.
Other wise they'll go to their graves with their beliefs.
I'm only looking at the facts as I know they speak for themselves.
You want to deny them, that's on you. I'll just dust off my feet.
I don't go off of what so-called experts and scholars say about the scriptures as most of them tend to be addicted to their own ideas. Clutching onto them regardless of what facts are laid against them.
I am not here to convince you are anyone, I'm just looking for facts. And hopefully these facts will plant the seed of light in people's darkenned souls. It is up to you to water your own seeds and watch them grow.
Now as for the info you stated regarding this boat on Mount Judi.
Honestly this is the first time I hear about this. So I'm going to have to research it.
As for the boat remains found near Mount Ararat, there is convincing evidence that this site is the real deal.
The remains match the description given in the book of Genesis.
So it's pretty much safe to say, it's been found.
But you stated that there isn't any evidence suggesting a world wide flood. On the contrary, there's evidence all around us.
There's sunken cities, and fossilized sea life in mountainous areas all over the world.
The truth is out there, but "they" hide it from us.
It's been like that since day one....
"He" is out to decieve all of us....
Peace,
Miggidy
Now you call me a bitch?
What ever makes you feel better about yourself bro.
Your actions defy the derogatory name you gave me so I can care less.
Any how, I take that you are Muslim from birth.
I have no interest in people like you, Muslim, Budhist, Christian, because your personal beliefs defy your character.
You see, people like that are taught what to believe in at an early age. And this belief sticks with them and becomes part of their mentality. Thus making it almost impossible for these people to accept new ideas.
Unless these people humble their egoistic ways,
only then can they open up to the truth.
Other wise they'll go to their graves with their beliefs.
I'm only looking at the facts as I know they speak for themselves.
You want to deny them, that's on you. I'll just dust off my feet.
I don't go off of what so-called experts and scholars say about the scriptures as most of them tend to be addicted to their own ideas. Clutching onto them regardless of what facts are laid against them.
I am not here to convince you are anyone, I'm just looking for facts. And hopefully these facts will plant the seed of light in people's darkenned souls. It is up to you to water your own seeds and watch them grow.
Now as for the info you stated regarding this boat on Mount Judi.
Honestly this is the first time I hear about this. So I'm going to have to research it.
As for the boat remains found near Mount Ararat, there is convincing evidence that this site is the real deal.
The remains match the description given in the book of Genesis.
So it's pretty much safe to say, it's been found.
But you stated that there isn't any evidence suggesting a world wide flood. On the contrary, there's evidence all around us.
There's sunken cities, and fossilized sea life in mountainous areas all over the world.
The truth is out there, but "they" hide it from us.
It's been like that since day one....
"He" is out to decieve all of us....
Peace,
Miggidy
^^^^
Just as I expected.
Anyhow I looked up info on this ship that was found in Mount Judi.
Well I found that it is the same ship I was reffering to.
Mount Judi is the Qur'an's translation of Mount Ararat.
Meaning that it's the same mountain....
The ship matches the descriptions given in the book of Genesis.
And it's important to remember that the prophet Mohammed claimed that the bible was tampered by man and that only the Qur'an is the true word of God.
Now as for the location, Genesis never said that the ship laid on Mount Ararat. It said it rested in the Ararat mountains (plural).
Meaning that it's found in the area, and that's where these remains were found, just a few feet from Mount Ararat.
The Qur'an on the other hand says that the Ark lies on the mountain....
Here's a link for more info:
http://www.fatwa-online.com/aboutislaam/0020101.htm
If this info won't convince people then nothing will.
For even the Qur'an says that man's hearts are sealed and their eyes closed.
It's important to know that "they" have been hiding this info from the world. Confusing archeologists by giving them different coordinants as to where the Ark is located. Hiring terrorists to kill archeologists, etc....
"They" don't want you to know the truth, as it will stop their agendas dead in their tracks....
Time to compare these findings with the Sumerian scriptures....
Just as I expected.
Anyhow I looked up info on this ship that was found in Mount Judi.
Well I found that it is the same ship I was reffering to.
Mount Judi is the Qur'an's translation of Mount Ararat.
Meaning that it's the same mountain....
The ship matches the descriptions given in the book of Genesis.
And it's important to remember that the prophet Mohammed claimed that the bible was tampered by man and that only the Qur'an is the true word of God.
Now as for the location, Genesis never said that the ship laid on Mount Ararat. It said it rested in the Ararat mountains (plural).
Meaning that it's found in the area, and that's where these remains were found, just a few feet from Mount Ararat.
The Qur'an on the other hand says that the Ark lies on the mountain....
Here's a link for more info:
http://www.fatwa-online.com/aboutislaam/0020101.htm
If this info won't convince people then nothing will.
For even the Qur'an says that man's hearts are sealed and their eyes closed.
It's important to know that "they" have been hiding this info from the world. Confusing archeologists by giving them different coordinants as to where the Ark is located. Hiring terrorists to kill archeologists, etc....
"They" don't want you to know the truth, as it will stop their agendas dead in their tracks....
Time to compare these findings with the Sumerian scriptures....
I'm once again bored at my job and was forced to read the ego masturbation post of my favorite Righteous Expert, miggidy.
Miggidy, I have no idea why you babble on and on about "people like you [me]." I mean it would be one thing if you had a background in psychology, or experience. But you don't.
And now, Freud, you look like a fucking idiot. Do you know how many times I have heard dumbasses like yourself just rattling on and on and on with your self righteous trash. It goes like this:
"I DO NOT WISH TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ISSUE (EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING TO TALK FOR HOURS). YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE TRUTH!!!! YOU MUST BE HUMBLE AND [BIG WORD YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW, BUT YOU HEARD YOUR FAVORITE SPEAKER SAY IT]!! I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THE ISSUE AND WILL CONTINUE AND I GUARENTEE THAT WHEN THE LORD MAKES IT CLEAR, YOU WILL SEE BUT YOU WILL AS THE TRUTH IS EASY BUT YOU WILL DENY IT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AND YOUR KIND!!
[simpering rambling continues]"
Just to ruin your day - here's a link to a page where the fuckheads who supposedly found the "ark" on "Arafat Mountain" - admit that they lied to the press and it was an elaborate fraud.
http://skepdic.com/noahsark.html
Whoops!! Guess you'll have to research some more!! Unlike people who were born muslims and don't change!
Oh wait I converted to Islam in 95 after being a christian for my entire life.
Miggidy, I have no idea why you babble on and on about "people like you [me]." I mean it would be one thing if you had a background in psychology, or experience. But you don't.
And now, Freud, you look like a fucking idiot. Do you know how many times I have heard dumbasses like yourself just rattling on and on and on with your self righteous trash. It goes like this:
"I DO NOT WISH TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ISSUE (EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING TO TALK FOR HOURS). YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE TRUTH!!!! YOU MUST BE HUMBLE AND [BIG WORD YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW, BUT YOU HEARD YOUR FAVORITE SPEAKER SAY IT]!! I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THE ISSUE AND WILL CONTINUE AND I GUARENTEE THAT WHEN THE LORD MAKES IT CLEAR, YOU WILL SEE BUT YOU WILL AS THE TRUTH IS EASY BUT YOU WILL DENY IT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AND YOUR KIND!!
[simpering rambling continues]"Just to ruin your day - here's a link to a page where the fuckheads who supposedly found the "ark" on "Arafat Mountain" - admit that they lied to the press and it was an elaborate fraud.
http://skepdic.com/noahsark.html
Whoops!! Guess you'll have to research some more!! Unlike people who were born muslims and don't change!
Oh wait I converted to Islam in 95 after being a christian for my entire life.
^^^^
That's where you get it twisted.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to find the "truth".
But even the most intelligent man can be as blind as anyone lesser.
It's not that complicated as "they" lead you to believe....
Like Jesus said, the truth will set you free....
And it's only sad to see that people try to cover up the truth with fabricated lies, throwing dirt on it. That site you stated doesn't even talk about the findings in Turkey, it ignores them...
Seek and you will find....
PS.... Just so that you know, I was an atheist for the most part of my life. Then evil occupied my life..... Reality hit me in the face and God openned up my eyes.... I adhere to the bible only because it's the only scripture supported by facts, but I am not Christian.
Confused yet?
I only adhere to facts....
That's where you get it twisted.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to find the "truth".
But even the most intelligent man can be as blind as anyone lesser.
It's not that complicated as "they" lead you to believe....
Like Jesus said, the truth will set you free....
And it's only sad to see that people try to cover up the truth with fabricated lies, throwing dirt on it. That site you stated doesn't even talk about the findings in Turkey, it ignores them...
Seek and you will find....
PS.... Just so that you know, I was an atheist for the most part of my life. Then evil occupied my life..... Reality hit me in the face and God openned up my eyes.... I adhere to the bible only because it's the only scripture supported by facts, but I am not Christian.
Confused yet?
I only adhere to facts....
You're an etymologist now as well as a psychologist? Please give me a reference where "3ala al joodiyyi waqeel" refers to what is currently known today as "Mount Arafat" or one of several "Arafat Mountains."
Mount Judi is 20 miles away from the Arafat mountains and has been known as Mount Judi for 1000+ years. I've never heard of Mt. Judi being grouped in as one of the "Arafat mountains" until the arkologists started talking their shit.
Actually, not to nitpick - but the Prophet Muhammad never said "Bible." The "Bible" - the "gospels" which were galvanized by your church, and I'm assuming you guy with the NIV/King James version, did not exist in arabia at the time.
What the Qur'an DOES say is that Jesus had a revelation of his own called the "Gospel" and that Moses had a revelation of his own called the "Torah." It says that both of these are no longer here today in their original form.
The various "gospels" floating through arabia most definitely were not Matthew Mark Luke and John. The Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of the Infancy and others not recognized today had a lot of influence. I'd like to back that up with a link - let me know if you want it.
I know that's what the news story CLAIMS. I guess that's what the Islamic Question and Answer page claims too - but I'm also aware of questions on the scholarly integrity of those reporting this "find."
The article I linked to before found an arkologist purposely making up facts about supposed "ancient wood" he found from the ark in question - which was just some wood he found and baked it in the oven.
I'm not even 100% sure that they even found an ark - much less whether or not it has the "dimensions" found in genesis. I'll believe it when I see it. It's unfortunate that the Turkish government bans anyone from investigating, except for state approved scientists.
It's also important to know that the original finders of the MIRACULOUS DISCOVERY admitted they made it up.
Please give a reference where the Turkish government (WHICH IS NOT EVEN RUN BY MUSLIMS, IT IS A SOCIALIST REPUBLIC WHICH BANS MUSLIMS FROM CALLING THEMSELVES TO PRAYER) hired islamic terrorists to murder archeologists.
And please do not link me to a christian science site which has an account from an "eyewitness" who says "YES THEY KILLED MY WHOLE TEAM - MANY BROWN MEN IN TURBANS AND ROBES WITH KORANS IN THEIR HANDS - BUT JESUS SAVED ME CUZ I ESCAPED AND NOW I LIVE TO TELL THE TALE." It's only acceptable from a secular, NEUTRAL news source - conservative or liberal.
You're right, muslims run the New World Order and are preventing the whole world from seeing the truth of Jesus.
Please photo copy your copies of the Sumeri scriptures and send them to me. I'll PM you my address when they are ready.
Oh wait, you can only speak english fluently and you have no educational background in dead languages.
Mount Judi is 20 miles away from the Arafat mountains and has been known as Mount Judi for 1000+ years. I've never heard of Mt. Judi being grouped in as one of the "Arafat mountains" until the arkologists started talking their shit.
Actually, not to nitpick - but the Prophet Muhammad never said "Bible." The "Bible" - the "gospels" which were galvanized by your church, and I'm assuming you guy with the NIV/King James version, did not exist in arabia at the time.
What the Qur'an DOES say is that Jesus had a revelation of his own called the "Gospel" and that Moses had a revelation of his own called the "Torah." It says that both of these are no longer here today in their original form.
The various "gospels" floating through arabia most definitely were not Matthew Mark Luke and John. The Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of the Infancy and others not recognized today had a lot of influence. I'd like to back that up with a link - let me know if you want it.
I know that's what the news story CLAIMS. I guess that's what the Islamic Question and Answer page claims too - but I'm also aware of questions on the scholarly integrity of those reporting this "find."
The article I linked to before found an arkologist purposely making up facts about supposed "ancient wood" he found from the ark in question - which was just some wood he found and baked it in the oven.
I'm not even 100% sure that they even found an ark - much less whether or not it has the "dimensions" found in genesis. I'll believe it when I see it. It's unfortunate that the Turkish government bans anyone from investigating, except for state approved scientists.
It's also important to know that the original finders of the MIRACULOUS DISCOVERY admitted they made it up.
Please give a reference where the Turkish government (WHICH IS NOT EVEN RUN BY MUSLIMS, IT IS A SOCIALIST REPUBLIC WHICH BANS MUSLIMS FROM CALLING THEMSELVES TO PRAYER) hired islamic terrorists to murder archeologists.
And please do not link me to a christian science site which has an account from an "eyewitness" who says "YES THEY KILLED MY WHOLE TEAM - MANY BROWN MEN IN TURBANS AND ROBES WITH KORANS IN THEIR HANDS - BUT JESUS SAVED ME CUZ I ESCAPED AND NOW I LIVE TO TELL THE TALE." It's only acceptable from a secular, NEUTRAL news source - conservative or liberal.
You're right, muslims run the New World Order and are preventing the whole world from seeing the truth of Jesus.
Please photo copy your copies of the Sumeri scriptures and send them to me. I'll PM you my address when they are ready.
Oh wait, you can only speak english fluently and you have no educational background in dead languages.
This is not a fucking saturday morning infomercial for evangelists in Africa. Nobody wants to hear your generic conversion story of being "saved."
Leave out the adjectives and overly melodramatic George-Bush like "evil" labels, and what do we have? An asshole saying "I FOUND JESUS AND YOU CAN TOO!"
The only thing that confuses me is how you could possibly spell "opened" incorrectly. But anway - what you just did right there is called question begging and if you had posted that on an internet newsgroup - it would have been rejected and deleted.
Why?
Because you're BEGGING me to ask you how you found Jesus - so you can tell your usual sacharine-sweet tale of finding "DA LORD." You don't want to have an intellectual discussion on the ark, you want to convert people with your bible thumping and NEW SCIENTIFIC FACTS WHICH SHOW THE BIBLE IS KEWL FOR TEENZ~!
Here, I don't want to hear your story because I already know it.
"Hi my name is Tom. I was an atheist and I was surrounded in darkness and clouds for my whole life. The evil I felt was incredible - I was miserable. Then one day my dad was dying of AIDS. I went to him, and he was an atheist his whole life too. He said son, read the bible. Then he died.
I was taken aback! How could he tell me to read such a false book! But then I read it front to back and understood it (even though I don't speak greek, latin, hebrew, aramaic or any of the original languages in it - I'm too busy dancing in church to learn them. I can just pretend on the internet like I know them, so it's all good). I Thought Wow what a great book! It doesn't contradict known, proven science like I thought! Then Jesus came into my life and I said I love you and the love of the lord overwhelmed me.
Now I am happy and I no longer am surrounded by darkness. I do not feel evil, only good Praise Jesus!"
I don't care if you found JESUS-AH~! I don't care if you read the Bible and believe that the world is only 6000 years old. I don't care if you read the bible and believe rabbits chew cud. I don't care if you read the bible and believe that the entire world was completely covered in water in 40 days (which amounts to 6 inches of rain falling every 1 minute). I don't care. I don't care. I DON'T CARE.
I DO care that this was a topic started by a muslim brother trying to find other muslim brothers in his area to talk to - and you come in here claiming you want to "research" Noah's ark. THEN YOU PROCEED TO BEG QUESTIONS - AND QUOTE LEFT AND RIGHT SHOWING THAT YOU ALREADY KNEW WHAT MUSLIMS THOUGHT ABOUT NOAH'S ARK - YOU WERE LOOKING TO CONVERT, EVANGELIZE, AND BIBLE THUMP.
Fuck you, fuck your bible, fuck your Jesus and fuck your faggot "god" which is split like a pizza pie into 3 parts. America is a SECULAR country, and I shouldn't have to listen to your assholes shit.
Leave out the adjectives and overly melodramatic George-Bush like "evil" labels, and what do we have? An asshole saying "I FOUND JESUS AND YOU CAN TOO!"
The only thing that confuses me is how you could possibly spell "opened" incorrectly. But anway - what you just did right there is called question begging and if you had posted that on an internet newsgroup - it would have been rejected and deleted.
Why?
Because you're BEGGING me to ask you how you found Jesus - so you can tell your usual sacharine-sweet tale of finding "DA LORD." You don't want to have an intellectual discussion on the ark, you want to convert people with your bible thumping and NEW SCIENTIFIC FACTS WHICH SHOW THE BIBLE IS KEWL FOR TEENZ~!
Here, I don't want to hear your story because I already know it.
"Hi my name is Tom. I was an atheist and I was surrounded in darkness and clouds for my whole life. The evil I felt was incredible - I was miserable. Then one day my dad was dying of AIDS. I went to him, and he was an atheist his whole life too. He said son, read the bible. Then he died.
I was taken aback! How could he tell me to read such a false book! But then I read it front to back and understood it (even though I don't speak greek, latin, hebrew, aramaic or any of the original languages in it - I'm too busy dancing in church to learn them. I can just pretend on the internet like I know them, so it's all good). I Thought Wow what a great book! It doesn't contradict known, proven science like I thought! Then Jesus came into my life and I said I love you and the love of the lord overwhelmed me.
Now I am happy and I no longer am surrounded by darkness. I do not feel evil, only good Praise Jesus!"
I don't care if you found JESUS-AH~! I don't care if you read the Bible and believe that the world is only 6000 years old. I don't care if you read the bible and believe rabbits chew cud. I don't care if you read the bible and believe that the entire world was completely covered in water in 40 days (which amounts to 6 inches of rain falling every 1 minute). I don't care. I don't care. I DON'T CARE.
I DO care that this was a topic started by a muslim brother trying to find other muslim brothers in his area to talk to - and you come in here claiming you want to "research" Noah's ark. THEN YOU PROCEED TO BEG QUESTIONS - AND QUOTE LEFT AND RIGHT SHOWING THAT YOU ALREADY KNEW WHAT MUSLIMS THOUGHT ABOUT NOAH'S ARK - YOU WERE LOOKING TO CONVERT, EVANGELIZE, AND BIBLE THUMP.
Fuck you, fuck your bible, fuck your Jesus and fuck your faggot "god" which is split like a pizza pie into 3 parts. America is a SECULAR country, and I shouldn't have to listen to your assholes shit.
Are you finished yet? Your whining and crying isn't helping your cause. So grow up and lets have an actual conversation here.
I came in here with a question and got an answer.
I posted a message on here for a friend of mine and was not aimed at you. So I am not after anything else, I could care less what your beliefs are.
The way I see it, at least you believe in a higher power.
And I hope God has mercy on you for that at least.
This shit got out of hand when you were offended by my search.
My search for the truth.
Why does that offend you?
Is it because you fear what I may find?
I don't listen to any biased bullshit from so called teachers of the scripture.
I only listen to the truth, and the truth speaks for itself....
Unlike you, my beliefs are not based on what other "people" tell me. My beliefs are based on the absolute truth.
And to get this out of the way, I haven't found Jesus.
God has found me....
And I am getting very close into finding the hidden truth.
And I'm not just talking about religion here....
I came in here with a question and got an answer.
I posted a message on here for a friend of mine and was not aimed at you. So I am not after anything else, I could care less what your beliefs are.
The way I see it, at least you believe in a higher power.
And I hope God has mercy on you for that at least.
This shit got out of hand when you were offended by my search.
My search for the truth.
Why does that offend you?
Is it because you fear what I may find?
I don't listen to any biased bullshit from so called teachers of the scripture.
I only listen to the truth, and the truth speaks for itself....
Unlike you, my beliefs are not based on what other "people" tell me. My beliefs are based on the absolute truth.
And to get this out of the way, I haven't found Jesus.
God has found me....
And I am getting very close into finding the hidden truth.
And I'm not just talking about religion here....
you gotta understand....the christians changed the bible like 30123412312 times just to suit themselves....Quran has never been changed since day 1!!!! And the message got twisted, thats why islam came, god gave a message many times through prophets such as moses, and Jesus, but the people messed up the message......so god gave the message a last time, and thats where islam comes. I have no idea how chrisitians or whatever got this whole Son of god, or ghost of god? God having a son? i duno..... Islam is all logic, but in christianity you got some wierd stuff like they eat some cracker and drink some wine, and say"you are drinking the blood of christ"some wierd stuff. But as a muslim you are to repsect all other religions period.
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Hows the christians change stuff to suit themselves
1. ex. pork
"2. Pork prohibited in the Bible
The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you". "Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you." [Leviticus 11:7-8]
Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy
"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass." [Deuteronomy 14:8]
A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5. "
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2. Drinking
2. Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible
The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:
a. "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."
[Proverbs 20:1]
b. "And be not drunk with wine." [Ephesians 5:18]
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source: http://www.allaahuakbar.net
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Hows the christians change stuff to suit themselves
1. ex. pork
"2. Pork prohibited in the Bible
The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you". "Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you." [Leviticus 11:7-8]
Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy
"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass." [Deuteronomy 14:8]
A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5. "
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2. Drinking
2. Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible
The Bible prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the following verses:
a. "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."
[Proverbs 20:1]
b. "And be not drunk with wine." [Ephesians 5:18]
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source: http://www.allaahuakbar.net
Scuzzo,
Bro, I'm not here to declare which scripture is better.
And which is legit and which one is false.
I am in a quest to find the true scripture of God.
Now about the biblical scriptures being corrupted, I've seen this argument before but then there's no proof.
The Old Testament is the same today as when it was first written. The Dead Sea scrolls have proven that.
And as for the New Testament, there's thousands of outside sources with different translations and they are all tell the same story. The New Testament has never been changed.
There's hundreds of artifacts and outside sources to support the many stories found in the New Testament.
Such archeological findings, artifacts, and outside sources are not found for other scriptures. Yet everyone likes to question the authenticity of the scriptures.
As for the scripture you mentioned, I don't see any prohibition.
I see advice....
You are told that pork and alcohol is not good for you, so stay away from it.
I don't see where it commands you not to consume it.
Think of it like what Mohammed said about shaving your beard. You were advised to let it grow, but you are not commanded to.
Why? Because this came from Mohammed and not from God, his intention was that you identify a Muslim bu his beard.
Either way, a true Christian should stay away from these things.
But yet so many eat and drink this crap, so are they true Christians after all?
No, they only claim to be.
I got a pretty good understanding of Islam, at least better than most Americans. Islam was the first religion of God that I was introduced to, after being a non-believer for so long.
My baby boy's mother is Muslim, and she's taught me so many things about Islam. I even got my own Qur'an now.
It's a learning process every day bro.
I get the impression that both Christians and Muslims do not know a damn thing about each other.
There's too many lies spreading around by shady characters and it's a big problem because people believe this shit.
My advice to everyone is to pick up ever "holy" scripture, the bible, the Qur'an, Vedas, etc.... Research their history and the truth will reveal itself.
PS.... You guys should look into the Sumerian tablets, they speak of Noah and Adam & Eve at least 1000 years before Genesis....
Bro, I'm not here to declare which scripture is better.
And which is legit and which one is false.
I am in a quest to find the true scripture of God.
Now about the biblical scriptures being corrupted, I've seen this argument before but then there's no proof.
The Old Testament is the same today as when it was first written. The Dead Sea scrolls have proven that.
And as for the New Testament, there's thousands of outside sources with different translations and they are all tell the same story. The New Testament has never been changed.
There's hundreds of artifacts and outside sources to support the many stories found in the New Testament.
Such archeological findings, artifacts, and outside sources are not found for other scriptures. Yet everyone likes to question the authenticity of the scriptures.
As for the scripture you mentioned, I don't see any prohibition.
I see advice....
You are told that pork and alcohol is not good for you, so stay away from it.
I don't see where it commands you not to consume it.
Think of it like what Mohammed said about shaving your beard. You were advised to let it grow, but you are not commanded to.
Why? Because this came from Mohammed and not from God, his intention was that you identify a Muslim bu his beard.
Either way, a true Christian should stay away from these things.
But yet so many eat and drink this crap, so are they true Christians after all?
No, they only claim to be.
I got a pretty good understanding of Islam, at least better than most Americans. Islam was the first religion of God that I was introduced to, after being a non-believer for so long.
My baby boy's mother is Muslim, and she's taught me so many things about Islam. I even got my own Qur'an now.
It's a learning process every day bro.
I get the impression that both Christians and Muslims do not know a damn thing about each other.
There's too many lies spreading around by shady characters and it's a big problem because people believe this shit.
My advice to everyone is to pick up ever "holy" scripture, the bible, the Qur'an, Vedas, etc.... Research their history and the truth will reveal itself.
PS.... You guys should look into the Sumerian tablets, they speak of Noah and Adam & Eve at least 1000 years before Genesis....