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smokingoods said:
@showilla are raising a semantic issue as in the first reproducing molecules werent technically 'life' and so their description isnt biological its, which works for me, the difference is trivial on such levels? or are you saying that there is no plausible and well supported theory for the origin of life, whcih i would strongly disagree with, and would be happy to point you toowords.
Where did these molecules come from? science does not know the begininng and this is fact.
 

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you can complex molecules, the kind that were probably the precurses to the prganic ones i was referrring to before, to form spontaniously in a sealed environment if you stock it with the kinds of things that were floating around the environment of the early earth.
 

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i wish more religious people would just keep shit to themselves...thats where your faith comes from anyway.

i used to call myself atheist but would say i am more agnostic now. but the thing that holds me from pursuing any religious "awakening" is how people in the religious community present themselves.personally i think religion and how it is run,preached,practiced is ridiculous. everybody is a fuckin robot and thinks the power of their faith comes from a cross around their neck or a bible on their dresser...they have lost sight of where their faith really is. its not about all this shit....and its people like the guy who made this thread that ruin it for people. always looking to physical and frivilous things to prove faith and it existence.

i dont have time to have to deal with people like this so i chose not to associate myself with any religion. i discover things for myself,not what somebody tells me to. make your own religion,dont be a follower,you dont need to be taught where your faith comes from,find it for yourself

its funny how religious people always look at atheists as close-minded and ignorant,but i honestly see it the other way
 

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shoowilla said:
could you elaborate more on what you mean by this quote, because these "facts" are highly disputable

there is proof that jesus existed and documentation of the miracles he has done. Dozens of events are prophesized in the bible. Whether or not you have taken the time to read the bible, after you are finished reading it, you realize that the world and its character has not changed at all and over 70% of your world is based on religious fundamentals from every store closing early on sundays to the palestinians and israeles fighting for thousands of years over a dispute between 2 sons of abraham. Jerusalem is surrounded by arab countries and continues to thrive because of the covenant between them and god which has them forever protected as the people of god. Why do u think our country is so great, look whos side we are on.

Psalms 122:6 declares, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: May those who love you be secure."

Everything in this world and the way society operates has some religious root. Science is just a part of a plan because if you honestly think that ALL OF THIS was started by a big bang you need help. What gives scientists so much credibility to tell us what to believe in? There just like you. We cant even find osama's ass, how do u expect us to know the meaning of life.

I aint no jesus freak, and i dont knock on doors handing out pamphlets but i am christian. I wouldnt even hop into this conversation but when people start talkin about evolution and completely exclude a god or a higher being the shit just makes me laugh.
 

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smokingoods said:
@gas one, no one KNOWS shit, but science has damn good EVIDENCE FOR lots of shit. Theres a big difference between evidence based and evidencce free belief
scientists honestly dont know a god damn thing. oh shit did i say god damn? anyways... all the 'evidence' they have will continue to be inconclusive, for the rest of they scientific lives.

no one knows shit, like i said.

religious nuts believe the bible is evidence.

and they believe the supernatural superceeds scientology bieng that science had to be made by god...

hence the back and forth....but yeah no one knows shit
 
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theres no proof because theres no proof, not because "its faith".

i could believe and have faith in unicorns, too.

and leprechauns that dance near pots of gold

the jabberwocky

the chupacabra

bigfoot

the loch ness monster

UFO's
All those things you mentioned. lol why be athiest and be like fuck that. I dont care and it sounds bogus/wheres the evidence. Sounds fairytale to me. or be... damn all these things that we talk about as humans,aliens,big foot,god,chupacbra,lochness monster. If it never existed then how was it brought up? I think theres a simple way at looking at things like this. Take it the way it is. For soo many years these topics have been discussed by humans and we queston it. If it didn't existed it would of not have been a discussion. Theres no hoaxes or blah blah you just make it more difficult on yourself when you try to have reason on why one of these topics don't exist. Make it real easy on yourself and just accept it cause life is so damn mysterious. we dont know shit. just accept it.
 

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cbrennan04 said:
All those things you mentioned. lol why be athiest and be like fuck that. I dont care and it sounds bogus/wheres the evidence. Sounds fairytale to me. or be... damn all these things that we talk about as humans,aliens,big foot,god,chupacbra,lochness monster. If it never existed then how was it brought up? I think theres a simple way at looking at things like this. Take it the way it is. For soo many years these topics have been discussed by humans and we queston it. If it didn't existed it would of not have been a discussion. Theres no hoaxes or blah blah you just make it more difficult on yourself when you try to have reason on why one of these topics don't exist. Make it real easy on yourself and just accept it.
what are you talking about? everything in this thread made sense except for that.

take things the way it is without questioning it? have you ever heard of the blind leading the blind?

theres no hoaxes? what the fuck? ha

you on one dude

why be athiest? because its that persons personal decision to decide they dont give a fuck about a neverending debate and move on with their lives. just because a person is athiest dosent mean they arent spiritual. and just because you dont believe in this one form of religion dosent mean some dude in sandals sitting on a cloud is like" i aint gon fuck with you"
 
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SiccFucc said:
i wish more religious people would just keep shit to themselves...thats where your faith comes from anyway.

i used to call myself atheist but would say i am more agnostic now. but the thing that holds me from pursuing any religious "awakening" is how people in the religious community present themselves.personally i think religion and how it is run,preached,practiced is ridiculous. everybody is a fuckin robot and thinks the power of their faith comes from a cross around their neck or a bible on their dresser...they have lost sight of where their faith really is. its not about all this shit....and its people like the guy who made this thread that ruin it for people. always looking to physical and frivilous things to prove faith and it existence.

i dont have time to have to deal with people like this so i chose not to associate myself with any religion. i discover things for myself,not what somebody tells me to. make your own religion,dont be a follower,you dont need to be taught where your faith comes from,find it for yourself

its funny how religious people always look at atheists as close-minded and ignorant,but i honestly see it the other way
I aint trying to physically prove shit, scientist and their evolution theory try to physically prove how the earth was made, religious people depend on thier faith. What did I ruin?
 
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what are you talking about? everything in this thread made sense except for that.

take things the way it is without questioning it? have you ever heard of the blind leading the blind?

theres no hoaxes? what the fuck? ha

you on one dude

why be athiest? because its that persons personal decision to decide they dont give a fuck about a neverending debate and move on with their lives. just because a person is athiest dosent mean they arent spiritual. and just because you dont believe in this one form of religion dosent mean some dude in sandals sitting on a cloud is like" i aint gon fuck with you"
now your just being hypercritical or maybe you didn't understand me. it's cool. accepting it is just another way to end a neverending debate. it's another way of not giving a fuck. allow me to quote myself again."If it didn't existed then how was it brought up to begin with" why do people start talking about something that never existed.... i like to think of it that way and end this debate at the same time not being athiest and just say fuck it. perhaps all this shit does exist cause if it didn't no one would be talkin about it.
 

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no. if you have faith that proves you give a fuck or you wouldnt have faith to begin with.

either that or you have blind faith, which is just basically bieng ignorant by choice. and you cant say bieng athiest is bieng ignorant by choice because theres no proof to base any of it on.

believing in something and not beliving in something are two different sides of the coin

and i cant be hypercritical bieng that its not my stance to begin with, were having a conversation.
 
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i give so little of a fuck i dont even call myself athiest, because that means i got some sort of belief..
althought i will say "God Damn It"... even tho im pretty sure there is no God.. but it sounds so much better that way
 
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fuckdemsquares said:
ignorance is bliss isnt it?
i wasnt going to check back in this thread because i knew it would be a long argument. maybe my opinion is too strong for you. ignorant? maybe ignorance is beleiving theres an answer to the question. maybe ignorance is the way i look at life - or the way you look at it. but i still dont give a shit. i dont think what i said was wrong at all. its how i feel and you labeled it ignorance? why? because you dont agree? well,then let it be. i can dig it. and i can care less..my duty in life is to succeed and be happy. make those around me to feel the same way, but cuz i dont "ask questions" or wonder about the unexplained im ignorant huh? i didnt slam on anybody elses opinions. i just gave mine.
 
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just to clarify for some of yall...if you just think that the question "is there a God?" cannot be answered, so you don't trouble yourself with it, you are agnostic, not atheist...
 
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but on the real...some of yall really need to take some basic chemistry, biology, and physics courses before you speak on and question the validity of evolution and the big bang and all that...
 
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I am an Atheist because imo it is irrational to believe in the supernatural since there is no evidence for anything supernatural. Physical matter is the only reality and everything can be explained in terms of matter and physical phenomena.

X_KaLiBa said:
just to clarify for some of yall...if you just think that the question "is there a God?" cannot be answered, so you don't trouble yourself with it, you are agnostic, not atheist...
To clarify further, Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic.

Straight from the man who coined the term (Thomas Huxley):

No better to explain this word then the man who coined the term, Thomas Huxley (1869). When Huxley was looking for a way to describe his thoughts, he selected the early religious sect known as "Gnostics" as a prime example of men who claim knowledge of the supernatural without justification and he distinguished himself as an "agnostic" by stipulating that the supernatural, even if it exists, lies beyond the scope of human knowledge. We cannot say if it does or does not exist, so we must suspend judgment.
Agnosticism signifies the impossibility of knowledge in a given area. An agnostic is a person who believes that something is inherently unknowable by the human mind.

The term "agnostic" does not, in itself, indicate whether or not one believes in a god. Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic.

The agnostic theist believes in the existence of god, BUT maintains that the nature of god is unkowable.

The agnostic atheist maintains that any supernatural realm is inherently unknowable by the human mind and the existence of any supernatural being is unknowable as well.​