Andre Berto vs Victor Ortiz April 16th

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i was joking you fag! props to ortiz he went beast mode on berto. DLH is my favorite fighter of all time, glad another mexican american has finally stepped into fill the void. I was'nt joking about manny juicing though, everyone knows that faggot is juicing for sure!
yeah of course we know. because mayweather said so! the dozens of drug tests pacquiao passed are all a bunch of lies! floyd's word >>>> science. Period.


" DLH is my favorite fighter of all time"

And here we learn the source of your hatred





everyone hates the guy who brutally beats their hero. it's ok man, I know that feel



 
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updated ratings for Welterweight

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather (will be dropped from ratings completely on May 1st due to innactivity)

3. VICTOR ORTIZ
4. Shane Mosley
5. Andre Berto
6. Jan Zaveck
7. Vyacheslav Senchenko
8. Rafal Jackiewicz
9. Mike Jones
10. Selcuk Aydin


Also, Andre Ward finally enters the Pound 4 Pound list taking JuanMa's #10 spot after his loss.


http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings
 
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lol at groupies giving mayweather lightweight cheers, than he gets booed the rest of the time him bein on camera. lmao of steward sceamin omg at the end of round 6 that shit had me laughin. good fight none the less. pac/ortiz would be entertaining to watch.
 

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Wow, 37th career tune up match?
Why fans who cheered for Mayweather gotta be groupies?

Fans cheered for Mayweather because they were happy to see Mayweather at a boxing event (maybe his vacation will end soon). Everybody ain't a Mayweather hater.
 
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yeah of course we know. because mayweather said so! the dozens of drug tests pacquiao passed are all a bunch of lies! floyd's word >>>> science. Period.


" DLH is my favorite fighter of all time"

And here we learn the source of your hatred




everyone hates the guy who brutally beats their hero. it's ok man, I know that feel
lol i woluld never hate on pacquiao for that reason. In that case i would hate Bernard hopkins and Mosley more for handing DLH L's in the prime of his career. I dislike paqcuiao because his step dad roach is a bitch, and the fact that he's on steroids.
 
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Hey oj was found innocent however we all know he was guilty.
but there was a ton of evidence he did it (DNA, the glove, etc.).

Pacquiao has passed every drug test and the only reason some people think anything is because of the Mayweathers and their accusation. Pac has agreed to additional drug testing, blood & urine and still haters gonna hate.
 
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I want to let people know that Mosley never failed a drug test either. If his name was not on the Balco list, we wouldn't have evey heard about Mosley using PED. Again if you're a clear fighter there is no good reason why you shouldn't agree to random testing.
 
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Shane admitted to taking The Cream and The Clear.
The cream isn't that big of a deal. You can get testosterone cream from any doctor. Meaning, any athlete should be able to use it to bring their levels up to "par" as long as they have a prescription. The potency on a cream is about a third of an injection. The good thing is that it's in and out of your body quick. In order to it to have a serious effect on you, you would have to put globs of it on you every day for at least 10-12 weeks.

The Clear, from what I have read extremely strong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrogestrinone

I dont know if I buy the "10 times as strong as deca or tren". I'm basically going to flat out call bullshit on that.

Either way, either of these are much more potent than the GH that people are claiming Manny uses. It takes at least 4-6 months to see any type of fat burning or muscle building effect on GH.
 
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I want to let people know that Mosley never failed a drug test either. If his name was not on the Balco list, we wouldn't have evey heard about Mosley using PED. Again if you're a clear fighter there is no good reason why you shouldn't agree to random testing.
they also weren't drug testing like they are today back when he took it either.

shit, back then if a fighter got caught taking something they'd get a letter in the mail stating they failed (see Roy Jones) and often times, nothing would happen and it stayed confidential.

It's much stricter these days, obviously.

But anyways, my point is there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest pac is on something or was on something. I think a lot of people have a hard time with the fact an Asian or Filipino is the best fighter in the world. I honestly believe that's part of it. But oh well you got Nonito Donaire destroying opposition and there will be plenty more like him in the years to come so that stereotype will be shattered eventually.
 

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206, if Manny "AGREED" to the testing that Mayweather wanted they would have fought after the first time they negotiated. They would have fought when Mayweather had the urge and called him a punk (and sure enough Manny punked out over a blood test, talking about how it made him weaker against Morales, so what happened to that excuse???). Shane agreed and they fought.... There would have been no so called "2nd round" of negotiations period if Manny just would have taken the test instead of filing his defamation lawsuit and talking about how Mayweather doesn't make the rules. Manny didn't agree when it was the only obstacle holding up the fight. "TEAM" Pacquiao instisted that they go by the rules that the comission set.

Some people think Manny is juicin' because of his reluctance to get his blood tested so close to the fight not because of what the Mayweathers are saying.
 

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It's really sad bruh.... you continously blame Mayweather when it was "clearly" Pac's fault that they didn't fight. That's nut ridin' bruh, but you're not the only one doing it so I don't want to single you out. That goes for Jrezzelle, KAH707KALI, WYNO, Morebass etc....

No matter what happens, Mayweather gets blamed. Manny can change his mind and y'all will still back him like you're in love with him.

All Floyd wanted was for Pacquiao to get "blood" tested as close to the fight as possible. That's it.

Floyd did what he could, he called Pacquiao a punk, talked about his financial contracts, made fun of his name.... he did everything he could to entice or instigate and Manny punked out when it was time to sign the paperwork.

Where I'm from or where I was born and raised, if you get called a punk by anybody it's on, a blood test wouldn't stop us from gettin' down. And Pacquiao acted like he was going to get blood tested 24 hours before the fight. It was just a possibility!!
 
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206, if Manny "AGREED" to the testing that Mayweather wanted they would have fought after the first time they negotiated. They would have fought when Mayweather had the urge and called him a punk (and sure enough Manny punked out over a blood test, talking about how it made him weaker against Morales, so what happened to that excuse???). Shane agreed and they fought.... There would have been no so called "2nd round" of negotiations period if Manny just would have taken the test instead of filing his defamation lawsuit and talking about how Mayweather doesn't make the rules. Manny didn't agree when it was the only obstacle holding up the fight. "TEAM" Pacquiao instisted that they go by the rules that the comission set.

Some people think Manny is juicin' because of his reluctance to get his blood tested so close to the fight not because of what the Mayweathers are saying.
It's really sad bruh.... you continously blame Mayweather when it was "clearly" Pac's fault that they didn't fight. That's nut ridin' bruh, but you're not the only one doing it so I don't want to single you out. That goes for Jrezzelle, KAH707KALI, WYNO, Morebass etc....

No matter what happens, Mayweather gets blamed. Manny can change his mind and y'all will still back him like you're in love with him.

All Floyd wanted was for Pacquiao to get "blood" tested as close to the fight as possible. That's it.

Floyd did what he could, he even called Pacquiao names, talked about his financials, made fun of his name.... he did everything he could to entice or instigate and Manny punked out when it was time to sign the paperwork.


my man tony "berto would KO pacquiao" pac agreed to all the tests and floyd left boxing so we already know the the reason as to who really wants to fight and who doesn't. There is no excuse anymore for floyd, pac agreed to all tests and floyd now wants $100 million dollars to fight. if you don't see it's not about testing anymore god help you and please don't reproduce. I'll leave it at that.