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Tony

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I hear you bro... but they do have "circumstantial" evidence. GREAT shot at getting off? He had a "shot" just like with any other case that's taken to trial but there's no way he's getting off now because he attempted to destroy evidence which probably could have helped him get off if he was indeed innocent.

The cleaning crew that was hired the day of when the body was found
When the cops came to his house and mentioned a murder investigation, he didn't ask who was murdered (because he already knew)
His apartment that had scales to weigh weight.
His car rental
Bubble gum and a shell casing found in the car

He obviously was high when he did it and just simply forgot to cover his tracks. He probably bought some weed off of Lloyd and then killed him for talking to some folks he had funk with.

They have too much evidence and it's backed up by text messages. He left a trail and Lloyd's text messages before he was shot is going to do Hernandez in. Lloyd knew it was coming, it was his way of screaming for help (like Trayvon Martin). Zimmerman has a better chance of getting off than Hernandez! He's washed!! He's going to get life without parole, he's never getting out!!

Scott Peterson didn't get off....
 
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they have text messages. plus they have surveillance camera footage. spent shell casing in a rental. also read that his boy may be flipping on him. bubble gum wrappers, etc.

he thru. doing way too much, shoulda left that lifestyle when he signed that forty milly contract.

he is only 23 too. prime age for people to make dumb ass choices in life.
 
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I don't know how OJ got off, you're right. If you're innocent, why run from the law with a gun to your head? I think OJ got off because of LAPD's sloppy work. The defense found enough holes in LAPD's investigation to raise doubt, including the racist cops remark.
 
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Affidavit confirms Ortiz flipped on Hernandez, told them the whole story


On Tuesday, limited snippets of an affidavit filed in a Florida court emerged, via the Associated Press. And while the information published by the AP was accurate, it was hardly complete.

Albert Breer of NFL Network has passed along the entire affidavit, and it paints a much more comprehensive picture of what Carlos Ortiz said, and when and where he said it.

Basically, Ortiz said everything he knows.

As of Tuesday, June 25, Ortiz was on probation. He showed up that day for a previously-scheduled meeting with his probation officer. When Ortiz got there, he learned that there was another purpose for that day’s meeting.

Investigators provided Ortiz with the so-called Miranda warnings (“you have the right to remain silent . . .”), and Ortiz nevertheless agreed to speak. Both the video and audio were recorded.

Ortiz said that he and Wallace arrived at Hernandez’s home in North Attleboro just after midnight on June 17, 2013. Hernandez and Shayanna Jenkins weren’t home; a babysitter let Wallace and Ortiz into the home.

Ortiz saw “a small and large handgun” in the home, and when Hernandez returned with Jenkins, Ortiz saw Hernandez “carrying a handgun.”

The three men — Hernandez, Ortiz, and Wallace — left the home at 1:09 a.m., stopping once for gas and then picking up Odin Lloyd and traveling back to North Attleboro.

Ortiz told police that, on the drive back, “he overheard Mr. Hernandez state directly to Mr. Lloyd that he was ‘chilling’ with people that [Hernandez] had problems with.” Ortiz said that Hernandez and Lloyd “made up by ‘shaking hands’ and added that ‘it’ was squashed.”

Ortiz then fell asleep. He woke up when the vehicle stopped, and Ortiz saw the other three men — Hernandez, Wallace, and Lloyd — get out of the car “to urinate.”

Ortiz then heard gunshots.

Hernandez and Wallace got back in to the car “without Mr. Lloyd,” and the vehicle “fled” the scene.

Because he had been asleep and stayed in the car, Ortiz didn’t know who had fired the shots, which makes Monday’s report that Wallace told Ortiz that Hernandez fired the shots now more sensible.

When the vehicle returned to Hernandez’s house, Wallace asked Ortiz to get a small gun located under the rear of the driver’s seat. Ortiz got the gun, carried it inside, and gave it to Hernandez.

Ortiz said that he then went back to sleep.

The affidavit confirms that it was Ortiz who told police about the things Hernandez said to Lloyd in the car, but Ortiz’s version as explained in the affidavit differs from the representations made in court by prosecutor Bill McCauley during Hernandez’s arraignment. For example, McCauley mentioned that Hernandez spoke about not being able to trust anyone, and that Hernandez wasn’t upset about Lloyd “chilling” with people Hernandez had issues with but that Lloyd had actually said something to them that called his trustworthiness in to question. Also, McCauley said nothing about Hernandez and Lloyd making up.

Still, if Ortiz repeats his story in court, it will be very hard to overcome the clear and complete picture it paints. While Hernandez’s lawyers surely will try to paint Ortiz as a liar, the reality is that Hernandez specifically asked Ortiz and Wallace to come to Massachusetts from Connecticut. As a practical matter, Hernandez is pretty much stuck with whatever Ortiz says happened, unless Hernandez and Wallace plan to offer an alternative explanation on the witness stand at trial.
 
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He (Hernandez) is washed^ Ortiz turned state evidence, even though I wouldn't believe everything he's saying but that's all they have to go off of. I think he knew Hernandez was going to take Lloyd out because he says he saw Hernandez with two guns.
 
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Why would Hernandez call Ortiz and Wallace over, so they can watch him shoot Lloyd? Is Hernandez that stupid?....I think Hernandez orchestrated the murder but didn't actually pull the trigger. Hernandez was probably supporting the hood financially and had shooters on the payroll. Max B supposedly orchestrated a murder and still got 75 years though.
 
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Carlos Ortiz, Labeled ‘Rat’

Aaron Hernandez’s Alleged Accomplice, Carlos Ortiz, Labeled ‘Rat’ for ‘Snitching’ on Former NFL Star

Odin Lloyd‘s family surely appreciates the information that Carlos Ortiz has given police about the night of the North Attleboro, Mass., homicide that involved Aaron Hernandez. But members of Ortiz’s old neighborhood told Kevin Manahan of USA Today that they may not welcome Hernandez’s alleged accomplice back for the same reason.

Ortiz has been labeled a “rat” in his Davis Drive neighborhood in Bristol, Conn., Manahan reports. The locals don’t appreciate that the 27-year-old leaked details of the June 17 murder.

“He can come back here,” Jose “Ito” Torres told USA Today. “But if you come back to the streets where everybody thinks you’re hard but you’ve been snitching….”

Ortiz had been in trouble with the law before in Bristol, but the Davis Drive neighborhood had usually covered for him, telling police they didn’t know where he was. In this case, Ortiz didn’t just “snitch” — he snitched on Hernandez, who is revered in the neighborhood for making it to the NFL.

“That’s Aaron Hernandez,” Amber Schryer said to USA Today. “You tell the police you don’t know anything.”

Ortiz is known as “Charlie” or “Charlie Boy” around Davis Drive. He would sleep on residents’ couches and fathered a 4-year-old son with a woman on the street.

“Everybody knows that Charlie told,” Torres told USA Today. “He’s been labeled a rat. He’s done. He’s done. You’re going to have another breaking news [story] on TV.”

Ortiz will likely be the prosecution’s star witness. And the defense will go after his credibility, since he has numerous arrests and tested positive for PCP, alcohol and THC in May, according to USA Today.
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Aaron Hernandez’s Alleged Accomplice, Carlos Ortiz, Labeled ‘Rat’ for ‘Snitching’ on Former NFL Star | NFL | NESN.com
 
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