2-0-SIXX,
YOU STRESSED, "What was life like before your god?"
I BELIEVE IN THE ALMIgHTY. HE IS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEgA, THE BEgINNIN' AND THE END. SO BEFORE HIM THERE WASN'T SHIT, AND AFTER HIM THERE WON'T BE SHIT. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE. BUT WITHOUT (gOD) THERE AIN'T NO LIFE. SO THERE WASN'T NO LIFE BEFORE HIM.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes I am. A few of them are common sense (thou shall not kill, steal, and adultery) the rest are ridiculous such as forbidding any other gods, speaking the lord’s name in vain etc."
ALL OF THOSE MAKE SENSE, BUT I SEE WHY YOU WOULD THINK THE OTHAS ARE RIDICULOUS. YOU ARE A NON-BELIEVER SO IT'S ALL THE SAME TO YOU. BUT MY INITIAL MOTIVE OF BRINgIN' UP THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, IS CAUSE IT LISTS BASIC LAWS YOU CAN'T CROSS OR YOU WOULD gET DEALT WITH. THOSE WERE THE LAWS OF THE LAND AND TIL THIS DAY MOST OF THEM ARE OBSERVED IN DIFFERENT SOCIETIES.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Human emotion is why we have morality."
ALRIgHT, YOU SAY IT'S HUMAN EMOTION THAT BRINgS UPON MORALITY, BUT HOW CAN THAT BE SO WHEN ALL OF US REACT DIFFERENTLY EMOTIONALLY TO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H. sapiens."
I KNOW THAT, BUT MY QUESTION IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT YOU STRESSED ABOUT YOUR POPS, THAT HE WAS HUMAN, WAS NOT ONE TO gIVE ME A SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION OF WHAT SPECIES IT IS BUT, TO DEFINE THE WORD USED IN THAT INSTANCE. WHAT IS BEIN' HUMAN? WHAT IS HUMANITY? WHAT IS IT TO BE HUMANITARIAN AND WHY? NOT WHAT TECHNICALLY BEIN' "A" HUMAN IS BUT WHAT IS BEIN' HUMAN.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Ok, how was it before your prophet came to this earth?"
MY PROPHET? WHO SAID I HAVE A PROPHET? REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION OR gET TO THE POINT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "666. So when was man "given" a conscience?"
HE WAS CREATED WITH ONE. ASK YOURSELF, WHEN DID YOU REALIZE YOU HAD A CONSCIENCE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "See HERESY's thread "questions for atheists"
I'M PRESSED FOR TIME. WHY DON'T YOU JUST LINK ME OR COPY AND PASTE YOUR WORDS TO HIM OVER HERE?
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Where or why? Morals change as society changes as I explained. In country A they may believe divorce is acceptable in country B it may not be. Both country A and B supposedly have the "same basic guidelines for their morality" - the bible. Obviously there must be something else involved then just this little book."
YEAH, IT'S CALLED CHURCH VS. STATE. MORE MODERN SOCIETIES ARE LEAVIN' THE BIBLE PRINCIPLES AS THEIR BASIS FOR LAWS WHILE OTHAS STRICLTY ABIDE BY IT.
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Oh yes...the bible itself is proof, good argument. Listen, I'm not arguing whether or not religion has affected the laws of certain societies - this is obvious, the question was whether or not religion is the base of morality. Or in other words, without religion would there be no morality.
WELL, IF IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE BIBLE HAS AFFECTED THE LAWS OF THE LAND, THEN THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. THAT SHAPES A SOCIETY AND IN A WAY, IS THE BASIS FOR MORALITY IN CHURCH AND STATE. YOU ARgUE THAT IT'S NATURAL HUMAN EMOTION THAT WE HAVE MORALITY, BUT NATURAL HUMAN EMOTION CAN LEAD US TO THE WRONg PATH. WHERE DOES LOgIC COME INTO PLAY?