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EDJ

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2-0-SIXX,
YOU STRESSED, "What was life like before your god?"

I BELIEVE IN THE ALMIgHTY. HE IS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEgA, THE BEgINNIN' AND THE END. SO BEFORE HIM THERE WASN'T SHIT, AND AFTER HIM THERE WON'T BE SHIT. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE. BUT WITHOUT (gOD) THERE AIN'T NO LIFE. SO THERE WASN'T NO LIFE BEFORE HIM.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Yes I am. A few of them are common sense (thou shall not kill, steal, and adultery) the rest are ridiculous such as forbidding any other gods, speaking the lord’s name in vain etc."

ALL OF THOSE MAKE SENSE, BUT I SEE WHY YOU WOULD THINK THE OTHAS ARE RIDICULOUS. YOU ARE A NON-BELIEVER SO IT'S ALL THE SAME TO YOU. BUT MY INITIAL MOTIVE OF BRINgIN' UP THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, IS CAUSE IT LISTS BASIC LAWS YOU CAN'T CROSS OR YOU WOULD gET DEALT WITH. THOSE WERE THE LAWS OF THE LAND AND TIL THIS DAY MOST OF THEM ARE OBSERVED IN DIFFERENT SOCIETIES.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Human emotion is why we have morality."

ALRIgHT, YOU SAY IT'S HUMAN EMOTION THAT BRINgS UPON MORALITY, BUT HOW CAN THAT BE SO WHEN ALL OF US REACT DIFFERENTLY EMOTIONALLY TO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "A member of the genus Homo and especially of the species H. sapiens."

I KNOW THAT, BUT MY QUESTION IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT YOU STRESSED ABOUT YOUR POPS, THAT HE WAS HUMAN, WAS NOT ONE TO gIVE ME A SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION OF WHAT SPECIES IT IS BUT, TO DEFINE THE WORD USED IN THAT INSTANCE. WHAT IS BEIN' HUMAN? WHAT IS HUMANITY? WHAT IS IT TO BE HUMANITARIAN AND WHY? NOT WHAT TECHNICALLY BEIN' "A" HUMAN IS BUT WHAT IS BEIN' HUMAN.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Ok, how was it before your prophet came to this earth?"

MY PROPHET? WHO SAID I HAVE A PROPHET? REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION OR gET TO THE POINT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "666. So when was man "given" a conscience?"

HE WAS CREATED WITH ONE. ASK YOURSELF, WHEN DID YOU REALIZE YOU HAD A CONSCIENCE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "See HERESY's thread "questions for atheists"

I'M PRESSED FOR TIME. WHY DON'T YOU JUST LINK ME OR COPY AND PASTE YOUR WORDS TO HIM OVER HERE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Where or why? Morals change as society changes as I explained. In country A they may believe divorce is acceptable in country B it may not be. Both country A and B supposedly have the "same basic guidelines for their morality" - the bible. Obviously there must be something else involved then just this little book."

YEAH, IT'S CALLED CHURCH VS. STATE. MORE MODERN SOCIETIES ARE LEAVIN' THE BIBLE PRINCIPLES AS THEIR BASIS FOR LAWS WHILE OTHAS STRICLTY ABIDE BY IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Oh yes...the bible itself is proof, good argument. Listen, I'm not arguing whether or not religion has affected the laws of certain societies - this is obvious, the question was whether or not religion is the base of morality. Or in other words, without religion would there be no morality.

WELL, IF IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE BIBLE HAS AFFECTED THE LAWS OF THE LAND, THEN THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. THAT SHAPES A SOCIETY AND IN A WAY, IS THE BASIS FOR MORALITY IN CHURCH AND STATE. YOU ARgUE THAT IT'S NATURAL HUMAN EMOTION THAT WE HAVE MORALITY, BUT NATURAL HUMAN EMOTION CAN LEAD US TO THE WRONg PATH. WHERE DOES LOgIC COME INTO PLAY?
 
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@ EDJ: It is shown through study of animal behaviors that we are not the only species that hold a conscience. Don't think yourself to be so special, remember we also are animals. Here's an actual case...

A strong young male african elephant is drinking from a water hole, an older weaker african elephant tries to gain a spot next to the water hole and gently shoves the young one out of the way. The young elephant then gouges the older one with his tusks, killing the old elephant. For the next few weeks it is observed that the young elephant which killed the older one distances himself from the rest of the herd and starves himself.

....to deny that this was a case of conscience would be stupid, what else would drive the young elephant to starve himself and not interact with the others? It was obviously guilt.

Anyways heres my 2 cents on what a world without religion would be... Most of the wars/conquerings/executions throughout history certainly would not have happened if it weren't for religion. We did not have religion from the start, we gained it with civilization and language. In this alone I see proof that religion is bogus, why would god all the sudden be like, 'Oh shit, theyre startin to get smart, maybe i should go have a talk with them, let em know that i'm here'. Recognize and realize that we are animals, and we aren't as special as we might like to think.
 

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J-FUNK,
YOU STRESSED, "@ EDJ: It is shown through study of animal behaviors that we are not the only species that hold a conscience. Don't think yourself to be so special, remember we also are animals. Here's an actual case..."

I NEVA CLAIMED HUMANS ARE THE ONLY ONE'S TO HOLD A CONSCIENCE. TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I BELIEVE DOgS HAVE SOME SORT OF CONSCIENCE TOO BUT THEY HAVE A SHORT TERM MEMORY, DEPENDIN' ON HOW YOU TRAIN THEM, ETC...

THEN YOU STRESSED, "In this alone I see proof that religion is bogus, why would god all the sudden be like, 'Oh shit, theyre startin to get smart, maybe i should go have a talk with them, let em know that i'm here'."

RELIgION IS ONE THANg AND SCRIPTURE IS ANOTHA. BUT (gOD) HAD HIS PROPHETS TO WRITE THE BOOKS THAT MAKE UP THE BIBLE THRU TIME. DON'T ACT LIKE IT HAPPENED ALL AT ONCE. DON'T ACT LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN (gOD) HAD CONTACT AFTER NOT BEIN' AKNOWLEDgED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Recognize and realize that we are animals, and we aren't as special as we might like to think."

DAMN, YOU MIgHT SUFFER FROM LOW SELF ESTEEM WITH THOSE TYPE OF REMARKS. MAN RULES THE WORLD AND EVEN IS KILLIN' OTHA ANIMALS OFF TO THE POINT OF EXTINCTION. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT? MAN IS gAININ' MORE KNOWLEDgE AND ADVANCIN' IN TECHNOLOgY. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT. MAN IN HIS QUEST FOR KNOWLEDgE IS STUDYIN' OTHA ANIMALS. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT. MAN WITH THE USE OF HIS THUMBS CAN DO OTHA THANgS OTHA ANIMALS ONLY DREAMED OF AND MAKIN' TOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAgE OF THE USE OF THE THUMBS. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT?
 
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EDJ said:
RELIgION IS ONE THANg AND SCRIPTURE IS ANOTHA. BUT (gOD) HAD HIS PROPHETS TO WRITE THE BOOKS THAT MAKE UP THE BIBLE THRU TIME. DON'T ACT LIKE IT HAPPENED ALL AT ONCE. DON'T ACT LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN (gOD) HAD CONTACT AFTER NOT BEIN' AKNOWLEDgED.
-Then what would you call the coming of Jesus? I think that is pretty sudden. Jesus died to save us did he not? does that just mean tough luck to the people before the time of Christ? Man they got shafted.......


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THEN YOU STRESSED, "Recognize and realize that we are animals, and we aren't as special as we might like to think."

DAMN, YOU MIgHT SUFFER FROM LOW SELF ESTEEM WITH THOSE TYPE OF REMARKS. MAN RULES THE WORLD AND EVEN IS KILLIN' OTHA ANIMALS OFF TO THE POINT OF EXTINCTION. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT? MAN IS gAININ' MORE KNOWLEDgE AND ADVANCIN' IN TECHNOLOgY. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT. MAN IN HIS QUEST FOR KNOWLEDgE IS STUDYIN' OTHA ANIMALS. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT. MAN WITH THE USE OF HIS THUMBS CAN DO OTHA THANgS OTHA ANIMALS ONLY DREAMED OF AND MAKIN' TOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAgE OF THE USE OF THE THUMBS. WHAT OTHA ANIMAL IS DOIN' THAT?
Ummm for one we are animals, no debate there. Mankind does not rule the world, we only think we do. Although our technology is far far more advanced than any other breathing animal, it does not change the fact that technology slowly evolves in other animals, it surely does advance but just extremely slowly just like our primitive ancestors. From the time H. sapien started using a stick to the time when H. sapien started putting a rock on the end of the stick to make a useful tool was thousands of years.
 

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J-FUNK,

YOU STRESSED, "Then what would you call the coming of Jesus?"

(gOD'S) RANSOM FOR MANKIND, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO gAIN ETERNAL LIFE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I think that is pretty sudden. Jesus died to save us did he not? does that just mean tough luck to the people before the time of Christ? Man they got shafted......."

NOPE. YOU NEED TO STUDY SCRIPTURE MORE. THOSE BEFORE CHRIST WERE JEW AND WERE (gOD'S) PEOPLE. JESUS HIMSELF WAS A JEW. BUT WHEN HE CAME, HE CHANgED THE LAW.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Ummm for one we are animals, no debate there."

FOR ONE, I DIDN'T DEBATE THAT, AIN'T NO POINT IN IT. WHETHA WE ANIMALS OR NOT, WE STILL ARE IN THE CONDITION WE ARE IN. BUT I CAN EASILY DEBATE THAT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Mankind does not rule the world, we only think we do."

IS THAT RIgHT? NOW HOW IS THAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Although our technology is far far more advanced than any other breathing animal, it does not change the fact that technology slowly evolves in other animals, it surely does advance but just extremely slowly just like our primitive ancestors."

HOW'S THAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "From the time H. sapien started using a stick to the time when H. sapien started putting a rock on the end of the stick to make a useful tool was thousands of years."

MAY I ADD THAT NO ANIMAL OR "OTHA" ANIMAL HAS PUT A ROK ON A STIK AND USED IT AS A TOOL.
 
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EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Mankind does not rule the world, we only think we do."

IS THAT RIgHT? NOW HOW IS THAT?
A self-destructive, resource wasting species does not sound 2 powerful to me. Mankind may rule each other, but not the world. We are no doubt the most advanced, but not everything on earth bows down to mankind.
EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Although our technology is far far more advanced than any other breathing animal, it does not change the fact that technology slowly evolves in other animals, it surely does advance but just extremely slowly just like our primitive ancestors."

HOW'S THAT?
...Other animals use resourceful tools, therefor they have technology.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "From the time H. sapien started using a stick to the time when H. sapien started putting a rock on the end of the stick to make a useful tool was thousands of years."

MAY I ADD THAT NO ANIMAL OR "OTHA" ANIMAL HAS PUT A ROK ON A STIK AND USED IT AS A TOOL.
....but who is to say something like this wont happen in the future as all species are developing. Sometimes when chimpanzees feel threatened they will pick up sticks and use it as a weapon. And some primates use sticks as a tool to collect termites to eat. They also use rocks to crush hardshelled fruits to eat. Us homosapiens were once just another primate that used sticks and rocks as tools.
And our fellow primates very well have the potential to develop advanced communication... as some chimpanzees know sign language and can communicate fairly well. By teaching chimpanzees a form of sign language is how we found out that primates have an extended memory, because some could refer to things in past tense.
 

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J-FUNK,

YOU STRESSED, "A self-destructive, resource wasting species does not sound 2 powerful to me. Mankind may rule each other, but not the world. We are no doubt the most advanced, but not everything on earth bows down to mankind."

WHETHA WE SELF DESTRUCT OR WASTE RESOURCES, WE STILL ON TOP. WHETHA EVERYTHANg IN EXISTENCE DOESN'T BOW DOWN TO MANKIND, WE STILL ON TOP. SO WHAT DOESN'T BOW DOWN TO MANKIND(AND PLEASE DON'T SAY NATURAL DISASTERS AND THE WEATHER)?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "...Other animals use resourceful tools, therefor they have technology."

YES, BUT IF THEY "EVOLVED" LIKE YOU CLAIM MAN HAS "EVOLVED", SHOULDN'T THEY BE ON THE SAME LEVEL, OR SOMEWHERE CLOSE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "....but who is to say something like this wont happen in the future as all species are developing."

THEY LAK OUR INTELLIgENCE AND SKILLS, PLUS THE USE OF OUR THUMBS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Sometimes when chimpanzees feel threatened they will pick up sticks and use it as a weapon."

I WOULD TOO.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And some primates use sticks as a tool to collect termites to eat. They also use rocks to crush hardshelled fruits to eat."

AND HOW LONg HAVE THEY BEEN DOIN' THIS?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Us homosapiens were once just another primate that used sticks and rocks as tools."

I BEg TO DIFFER. WHERE'S YOUR PROOF? YOU SPEAK LIKE IT'S ACTUAL FACT. FIRST YOU COME WITH SOME LOgIC THAT REQUIRES LOW SELF ESTEEM AND NOW YOU SAYIN' THAT WE COME FROM MONKEYS. YOU TOO QUIK TO gRASP THEORIES.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And our fellow primates very well have the potential to develop advanced communication..."

HOW YOU KNOW THEY AIN'T gOT IT YET AND JUST LIVE IN SECRECY WITH IT? SO IF THEY DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL, HOW FAR ALONg ARE THEY IN THIS SO CALLED EVOLUTIONARY TREE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "By teaching chimpanzees a form of sign language is how we found out that primates have an extended memory, because some could refer to things in past tense."

SO THEY SMARTER THAN YOU THOUgHT. IS THIS WHY YOU BELITTLE MANKIND?
 
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EDJ said:
J-FUNK,

YOU STRESSED, "A self-destructive, resource wasting species does not sound 2 powerful to me. Mankind may rule each other, but not the world. We are no doubt the most advanced, but not everything on earth bows down to mankind."

WHETHA WE SELF DESTRUCT OR WASTE RESOURCES, WE STILL ON TOP. WHETHA EVERYTHANg IN EXISTENCE DOESN'T BOW DOWN TO MANKIND, WE STILL ON TOP. SO WHAT DOESN'T BOW DOWN TO MANKIND(AND PLEASE DON'T SAY NATURAL DISASTERS AND THE WEATHER)?
Like I said we are the most advanced, but not even most the species on earth bow down to mankind. I'd say only mammals are in our complete control.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "...Other animals use resourceful tools, therefor they have technology."

YES, BUT IF THEY "EVOLVED" LIKE YOU CLAIM MAN HAS "EVOLVED", SHOULDN'T THEY BE ON THE SAME LEVEL, OR SOMEWHERE CLOSE?
They are evolving slowly like we once were. Remember that we ran around with nothing but stick and stones for thousands of years.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "....but who is to say something like this wont happen in the future as all species are developing."

THEY LAK OUR INTELLIgENCE AND SKILLS, PLUS THE USE OF OUR THUMBS.
We once lacked these things as well. There is a trend in skulls found thousands of years old compared to a human skull now. The trend shows there has been a growth in average human brain size, a slow growth but non-the-less a growth. The opposable thumb is one of the main things that seperate us from other primates.


EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "And some primates use sticks as a tool to collect termites to eat. They also use rocks to crush hardshelled fruits to eat."

AND HOW LONg HAVE THEY BEEN DOIN' THIS?
I dunno, do u know?

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Us homosapiens were once just another primate that used sticks and rocks as tools."

I BEg TO DIFFER. WHERE'S YOUR PROOF? YOU SPEAK LIKE IT'S ACTUAL FACT. FIRST YOU COME WITH SOME LOgIC THAT REQUIRES LOW SELF ESTEEM AND NOW YOU SAYIN' THAT WE COME FROM MONKEYS. YOU TOO QUIK TO gRASP THEORIES.
what year did u graduate high school? Debating over the fact of evolution is a thing of the past, with the hard evidence presented even religions have given up and tried to fit it into thier beliefs.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "And our fellow primates very well have the potential to develop advanced communication..."

HOW YOU KNOW THEY AIN'T gOT IT YET AND JUST LIVE IN SECRECY WITH IT? SO IF THEY DO HAVE THE POTENTIAL, HOW FAR ALONg ARE THEY IN THIS SO CALLED EVOLUTIONARY TREE?
No, you're right, they must have always known sign language and just lived in secrecy with it.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "By teaching chimpanzees a form of sign language is how we found out that primates have an extended memory, because some could refer to things in past tense."

SO THEY SMARTER THAN YOU THOUgHT. IS THIS WHY YOU BELITTLE MANKIND?
I simply stated that we 2 are animals, whether u want to call that belittling or not it is fact.
 

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J-FUNK,

YOU STRESSED, "Like I said we are the most advanced, but not even most the species on earth bow down to mankind. I'd say only mammals are in our complete control."

BUT ARE THEY RULIN' US? ARE THEY AN IMMINENT THREAT?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "They are evolving slowly like we once were. Remember that we ran around with nothing but stick and stones for thousands of years."

THIS IS WHAT I DON'T gET. IF MAN IS THE LAST CHAIN OF THE EVOLUTIONARY TREE AND PRIMATES CAME FIRST, SHOULDN'T WE BE CATCHIN' UP TO THEM?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "We once lacked these things as well. There is a trend in skulls found thousands of years old compared to a human skull now. The trend shows there has been a growth in average human brain size, a slow growth but non-the-less a growth. The opposable thumb is one of the main things that seperate us from other primates."

SHOW ME FOOTAgE WITH SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT A SKELETON OF A MAN OR EARLY MAN WITH THUMBS BARELY FORMIN'. MATTER OF FACT, SHOW SEVERAL gOIN' FROM NO THUMBS TO WHAT WE WERE BEFORE THE STAgE WE AT RIgHT NOW.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I dunno, do u know?"

YUP. THEY BEEN DOIN' THAT EVER SINCE THEY WERE CREATED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "what year did u graduate high school?

92'. WHY?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Debating over the fact of evolution is a thing of the past, with the hard evidence presented even religions have given up and tried to fit it into thier beliefs."

LOL. MAYBEORgANIZED FAKE RELIgIONS WHOSE MEMBERS DON'T READ SCRIPTURE OR STUDY IT AND FEEL LIKE DUMB-ASSES, SO THEY ADHERE TO EVOLUTIONARY DOgMAS. BUT THE BIBLE HAS KNOWLEDgE OF SELF AND NEVA CONTRADICTS SCIENCE, SINCE THE AUTHOR IS WHO CREATED EVERYTHANg.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "No, you're right, they must have always known sign language and just lived in secrecy with it."

DON'T gET SARCASTIC ON ME NOW. I'M TALKIN' BOUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE IN SECRECY BY METHODS WE DIDN'T KNOW THEY DID? HOW YOU KNOW THEY DON'T?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I simply stated that we 2 are animals, whether u want to call that belittling or not it is fact."

SOME WILL, SOME WON'T. I KNOW IF WE ARE ANIMALS, WE THE MOST ADVANCED ONES. WE STIK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. WE THE MOST SPECIALIST ANIMALS. WE EVEN HAVE gOD'S AND ALL KINDS OF PLEASURES.
 
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EDJ said:
J-FUNK,

YOU STRESSED, "Like I said we are the most advanced, but not even most the species on earth bow down to mankind. I'd say only mammals are in our complete control."

BUT ARE THEY RULIN' US? ARE THEY AN IMMINENT THREAT?
No, but we are certainly not rulin them. Maybe a select few.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "They are evolving slowly like we once were. Remember that we ran around with nothing but stick and stones for thousands of years."

THIS IS WHAT I DON'T gET. IF MAN IS THE LAST CHAIN OF THE EVOLUTIONARY TREE AND PRIMATES CAME FIRST, SHOULDN'T WE BE CATCHIN' UP TO THEM?
U don't get it because you try to apply your belief of man suddenly appearing on earth to this concept. If man evolved from other primates then this means an advantage or series of advantages was acquired through evolution (darwinism, survival of the fittest). It only makes sense that we are smarter and more advanced than our primatal ancestors.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "We once lacked these things as well. There is a trend in skulls found thousands of years old compared to a human skull now. The trend shows there has been a growth in average human brain size, a slow growth but non-the-less a growth. The opposable thumb is one of the main things that seperate us from other primates."

SHOW ME FOOTAgE WITH SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT A SKELETON OF A MAN OR EARLY MAN WITH THUMBS BARELY FORMIN'. MATTER OF FACT, SHOW SEVERAL gOIN' FROM NO THUMBS TO WHAT WE WERE BEFORE THE STAgE WE AT RIgHT NOW.
Some people are born with six toes, or six fingers. It exists in a mutated gene. And it's more common than u may think. Perhaps something like this happened with the opposable thumb, and if darwinism (survival of the fittest) played a role it would have certainly been a favorable trait, and those with the opposable thumb would soon multiply and seperate from those without.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "what year did u graduate high school?

92'. WHY?
Evolution is no longer taught on a theory basis, it's taught as fact.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Debating over the fact of evolution is a thing of the past, with the hard evidence presented even religions have given up and tried to fit it into thier beliefs."

LOL. MAYBEORgANIZED FAKE RELIgIONS WHOSE MEMBERS DON'T READ SCRIPTURE OR STUDY IT AND FEEL LIKE DUMB-ASSES, SO THEY ADHERE TO EVOLUTIONARY DOgMAS. BUT THE BIBLE HAS KNOWLEDgE OF SELF AND NEVA CONTRADICTS SCIENCE, SINCE THE AUTHOR IS WHO CREATED EVERYTHANg.
Evolution is based on scientific fact.
The author of the bible is gOD? I'm pretty sure it is man who wrote the texts we now know as the bible. And no the bible contradicts much science, welcome to the 21st century.

EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "No, you're right, they must have always known sign language and just lived in secrecy with it."

DON'T gET SARCASTIC ON ME NOW. I'M TALKIN' BOUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE IN SECRECY BY METHODS WE DIDN'T KNOW THEY DID? HOW YOU KNOW THEY DON'T?
I dunno sometimes when I'm visiting the zoo i see them whispering things to each other.

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THEN YOU STRESSED, "I simply stated that we 2 are animals, whether u want to call that belittling or not it is fact."

SOME WILL, SOME WON'T. I KNOW IF WE ARE ANIMALS, WE THE MOST ADVANCED ONES. WE STIK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. WE THE MOST SPECIALIST ANIMALS. WE EVEN HAVE gOD'S AND ALL KINDS OF PLEASURES.
We are animals, we belong to the mammal class. And let me remind you that we are only but a pebble of pavement on the road of time. What kind of gOD only judges one species out of millions?
You must have been a kid who was constantly told, "Yes, of course you're special! You're one super very important person!"
 
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We can't just live life not knowing what will happen in the end.
Then how are you still living? Because what "happens in the end," is the great unknown...no one can answer that question. And before someone goes running off to find some quotation in the bible...spare me...it's just a book...written by people like you and me...well, more like you.
 

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J-FUNK,

YOU STRESSED, "No, but we are certainly not rulin them. Maybe a select few."

WHETHA WE RULIN' THEM OR NOT, WE AIN'T SUBORDINATE TO THEM AND THAT'S MY POINT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "U don't get it because you try to apply your belief of man suddenly appearing on earth to this concept. If man evolved from other primates then this means an advantage or series of advantages was acquired through evolution (darwinism, survival of the fittest). It only makes sense that we are smarter and more advanced than our primatal ancestors."


ACTUALLY I'M USIN' YOUR LOgIC TO TRY TO UNDA-STAND THIS SHIT YOU STRESSIN'. YOUR LOgIC STRESSES THAT PRIMATES CAME FIRST AND WE EVOVLED FROM THEM RIgHT? HOW AM I APPLYIN' THAT MAN ALL OF A SUDDEN CAME ON EARTH? ANOTHA QUESTION IS, IF WE DID ACTUALLY EVOLVE FROM PRIMATES, SHOULDN'T THEY ALREADY DIED OFF SINCE WE EVOLVED FROM THEM? SO YOUR REASONIN' AND LOgIC LEAVES YOU WITH ALL KIND OF UNANSWERED THEORIES THAT LEAD TO MORE QUESTIONS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Some people are born with six toes, or six fingers. It exists in a mutated gene. And it's more common than u may think. Perhaps something like this happened with the opposable thumb, and if darwinism (survival of the fittest) played a role it would have certainly been a favorable trait, and those with the opposable thumb would soon multiply and seperate from those without."

I SAID SHOW ME PROOF, NOT THEORIZE IN FRONT OF ME. I KNOW SOMEBODY WITH SIX TOES. IT'S A gENETIC DISORDER. OUR THUMBS ARE NOT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Evolution is no longer taught on a theory basis, it's taught as fact."

WHAT A SHAME. CAUSE IT'S NOT A FACT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Evolution is based on scientific fact.
The author of the bible is gOD? I'm pretty sure it is man who wrote the texts we now know as the bible. And no the bible contradicts much science, welcome to the 21st century."

YES IT'S (gOD). BUT WITH SO MANY RELIgIONS AND MANY INTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURE, IT HAS CONFUSED MANY TO THE POINT THEY gOIN' THE ROUTE YOU gOIN' AND NOT BELIEVIN' IT'S AUTHENTICITY. SO WHERE DOES THE BIBLE CONTRADICT SCIENCE? AND EVOLUTION IS BASED ON DIFFERENT MAN-MADE THEORIES. SOME EVEN CONTRADICT EACH OTHA.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I dunno sometimes when I'm visiting the zoo i see them whispering things to each other."

LOL. SMART ASS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "We are animals, we belong to the mammal class."

SCIENTIFICALLY SPEAKIN'.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "And let me remind you that we are only but a pebble of pavement on the road of time."

ARE WE? YET AND STILL WE DOMINATE AND RULE THIS WORLD. WE HAVE LOgIC, BOOKS, THEORIES, AND EVEN MEDIA TO HELP DECIPHER ALL THIS INFORMATION.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What kind of gOD only judges one species out of millions?"

ONE THAT CREATED THEM IN HIS IMAgE TO RULE OVER THIS EARTH AND SUBDUE IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You must have been a kid who was constantly told, "Yes, of course you're special! You're one super very important person!""

AND YOUR TEACHER NEVA ENCOURAgED YOU LIKE THAT? MR. FERRARO TAUgHT ME ABOUT SELF ESTEEM IN THE 6TH gRADE. HE HAD ME REMEMBER A FEW SENTENCES ON 3 X 5 CARD AND TO REPEAT THEM AND MEMORIZE IN FRONT OF A MIRROR. I TELL YOU, THAT SHIT SURE HELPED. IT HELPED ME TO LOOK BETTER AT MYSELF AND THAT I WASN'T NO WEAK ASS PUNK THAT DESREVES RESPECT. IF THAT AIN'T SOME TRUE gAME, THEN YOU MISgUIDED LIL ONE. MAYBE MR. FERRARO SHOULD'VE BEEN YOUR TEACHER, YOU LOW-SELF ESTEEM-HAVIN'-CHILD-YOU.
 
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EDJ said:
J-FUNK,

YOU STRESSED, "No, but we are certainly not rulin them. Maybe a select few."

WHETHA WE RULIN' THEM OR NOT, WE AIN'T SUBORDINATE TO THEM AND THAT'S MY POINT.
.....Cetaceans more intelligent than homosapiens


EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "U don't get it because you try to apply your belief of man suddenly appearing on earth to this concept. If man evolved from other primates then this means an advantage or series of advantages was acquired through evolution (darwinism, survival of the fittest). It only makes sense that we are smarter and more advanced than our primatal ancestors."


ACTUALLY I'M USIN' YOUR LOgIC TO TRY TO UNDA-STAND THIS SHIT YOU STRESSIN'. YOUR LOgIC STRESSES THAT PRIMATES CAME FIRST AND WE EVOVLED FROM THEM RIgHT? HOW AM I APPLYIN' THAT MAN ALL OF A SUDDEN CAME ON EARTH? ANOTHA QUESTION IS, IF WE DID ACTUALLY EVOLVE FROM PRIMATES, SHOULDN'T THEY ALREADY DIED OFF SINCE WE EVOLVED FROM THEM? SO YOUR REASONIN' AND LOgIC LEAVES YOU WITH ALL KIND OF UNANSWERED THEORIES THAT LEAD TO MORE QUESTIONS.
....Spark Notes on the book "Evidence for Evolution". Answers FAQ.
Process of evolution and changing genes



EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Some people are born with six toes, or six fingers. It exists in a mutated gene. And it's more common than u may think. Perhaps something like this happened with the opposable thumb, and if darwinism (survival of the fittest) played a role it would have certainly been a favorable trait, and those with the opposable thumb would soon multiply and seperate from those without."

I SAID SHOW ME PROOF, NOT THEORIZE IN FRONT OF ME. I KNOW SOMEBODY WITH SIX TOES. IT'S A gENETIC DISORDER. OUR THUMBS ARE NOT.
......Process of evolution and changing genes
Fossil of homonid that lived 2.5 million years ago found in Ethiopia
MSNBC - Link between apes and humans found in mutated gene



EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "Evolution is no longer taught on a theory basis, it's taught as fact."

WHAT A SHAME. CAUSE IT'S NOT A FACT.
.....Evolution is fact based on evidence, things like darwinism, landbridge theory and big bang theory are only theory that branch off of the evidence presented. The only thing debated about evolution is theories within, unless ur a christian extremist evangelist.
...160,000 year old "missing link" hominid skeletals and stone tools found in Ethiopia
Expains evolution from apes to humans using mostly genetic and biological evidence.
CNN - Evolution Evidence found in Threadsnake (link between lizards and snakes)
Creationists vs. Evolution, which has the evidence?
Evidence of Ongoing Evolution
Evidence of Evolutionary Transition - By Michael J. Benton Ph.D.




EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "And let me remind you that we are only but a pebble of pavement on the road of time."

ARE WE? YET AND STILL WE DOMINATE AND RULE THIS WORLD. WE HAVE LOgIC, BOOKS, THEORIES, AND EVEN MEDIA TO HELP DECIPHER ALL THIS INFORMATION.
....But you and I both know we have acquired this technology with time, you've seen with your own eyes that technology has evolved among humans. So we haven't always had these things. And we haven't always been the most advanced.




EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "What kind of gOD only judges one species out of millions?"
ONE THAT CREATED THEM IN HIS IMAgE TO RULE OVER THIS EARTH AND SUBDUE IT.
...Similar excuse was used to justify slavery.



EDJ said:
THEN YOU STRESSED, "You must have been a kid who was constantly told, "Yes, of course you're special! You're one super very important person!""

AND YOUR TEACHER NEVA ENCOURAgED YOU LIKE THAT? MR. FERRARO TAUgHT ME ABOUT SELF ESTEEM IN THE 6TH gRADE. HE HAD ME REMEMBER A FEW SENTENCES ON 3 X 5 CARD AND TO REPEAT THEM AND MEMORIZE IN FRONT OF A MIRROR. I TELL YOU, THAT SHIT SURE HELPED. IT HELPED ME TO LOOK BETTER AT MYSELF AND THAT I WASN'T NO WEAK ASS PUNK THAT DESREVES RESPECT. IF THAT AIN'T SOME TRUE gAME, THEN YOU MISgUIDED LIL ONE. MAYBE MR. FERRARO SHOULD'VE BEEN YOUR TEACHER, YOU LOW-SELF ESTEEM-HAVIN'-CHILD-YOU.
HMmm....Problems with Self-Esteem Education: Creating Ego- and Ethno-centrism
 

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Mickey Fallon
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Tomato Alley
#60
all my science teacheres have said evolution of any kind takes many many years, thats obvious, lol. i mean...just look at how the average height of humans has grown of the past 400 years, and thats strictly due to dieting, and things of that nature. Changes influenced by our other surroundings take many years to notice.