A possible solution to help clean up the ghettos of the U.S.

[radiostationrep]

imo to many people abuse financial aid. people recieve benefits that don't need or deserve it, some people that need it don't receive it. i feel that the government needs to start a policy that requires drug testing. the reason is simple: it's a well known fact the 1st and 15th are great for business if your a drug dealer. Where are the addicts recieving this money from? quit giving money away. i have no problem helping out those that need financial help. i have a problem with government assistance being used to support drug habits. this would be a start to help out the low-income communities with positive results. being that we are having an economic crisis the system needs to be looked at as a whole and needs to be restructured. the tax payers pay for their drugs, housing, and jails. its sickening if you really think about it.

 

[XxtraMannish]

how are taxpayers going to feel about financing these millions of drug tests?

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

I would prefer to finance neither, but

if I had to choose between the two, I would rather finance a drug test than finance drug a purchase.

 

[radiostationrep]

how do they feel now?

how are taxpayers going to feel about financing these millions of drug tests?

is society getting better or worse?

i rather the money be spent for a brighter future than a revolving door.

instead of setting up education and job training programs we build prisons.

 

[WHITE DEVIL]

I agree with the drug test 100%

 

[JoMoDo]

Drug tests are bullshit. Alcohol is just a big contributor as drugs, how you gonna distinguish between the two? Alcohol is one of the biggest drug problems in the US.

Legalize drugs and tax the drugs.

 

[DubbC415]

Sounds like some fox news bullshit goin on in here.

 

[COPIUM]

they got money for wars but cant feed the poor!!

 

[HERESY]

Sounds like some fox news bullshit goin on in here.

Agreed.

So, OP, how are we going to clean up the trailer parks in america? Also, what about the drug issues in america that will still exist?

 

[radiostationrep]

i rarely watch t.v.

it was a discussion we had in my American politics class. as far the issue of drug use still existing, it will. My point is that our government shouldnt be providing assistance and aid to people that turn around and use it to support a drug habit that at some point turns into a jail stint that turns into taxpayers supporting this ENTIRE process. misuse of funds is the reason we are in an economic crisis.

 

[mocheezkc]

imo to many people abuse financial aid. people recieve benefits that don't need or deserve it, some people that need it don't receive it. i feel that the government needs to start a policy that requires drug testing. the reason is simple: it's a well known fact the 1st and 15th are great for business if your a drug dealer. Where are the addicts recieving this money from? quit giving money away. i have no problem helping out those that need financial help. i have a problem with government assistance being used to support drug habits. this would be a start to help out the low-income communities with positive results. being that we are having an economic crisis the system needs to be looked at as a whole and needs to be restructured. the tax payers pay for their drugs, housing, and jails. its sickening if you really think about it.

The first and 15th are "great business if your a drug dealer", because that's when most working stiffs get paid. Most people recieving govt. benefits get a once a month payment, usually the first. I don't see how drug testing people that recieve govt. benefits will "clean up the ghettos of america". This is just another invasion of privacy, that a lot of employers and landlords already exploit, along with credit reports. If you want to "help out low-income communities", start with job creation and reinvestment into infrastructures. If you believe drug dealers are making money off of low-income people that recieve govt. assistance, you must not be aware of the corporate executives, managers, and business owners that purchase drugs from "drug dealers". Drugs is waaaaaaay deeper than a "ghetto problem". The "suburbs" is where the "drug dealers" would prefer their client base. More money, more profits. Like Heresey said, "what about the cleaning up the trailer parks in America"?

 

[2-0-Sixx]

uh maybe work on fixing the conditions that lead people to a life of drugs in the first place (i.e poverty, poor educational system, etc etc etc).

 

[HERESY]

it was a discussion we had in my American politics class. as far the issue of drug use still existing, it will. My point is that our government shouldnt be providing assistance and aid to people that turn around and use it to support a drug habit that at some point turns into a jail stint that turns into taxpayers supporting this ENTIRE process. misuse of funds is the reason we are in an economic crisis.

Fail.

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

The first and 15th are "great business if your a drug dealer", because that's when most working stiffs get paid. Most people recieving govt. benefits get a once a month payment, usually the first. I don't see how drug testing people that recieve govt. benefits will "clean up the ghettos of america". This is just another invasion of privacy, that a lot of employers and landlords already exploit, along with credit reports. If you want to "help out low-income communities", start with job creation and reinvestment into infrastructures. If you believe drug dealers are making money off of low-income people that recieve govt. assistance, you must not be aware of the corporate executives, managers, and business owners that purchase drugs from "drug dealers". Drugs is waaaaaaay deeper than a "ghetto problem". The "suburbs" is where the "drug dealers" would prefer their client base. More money, more profits. Like Heresey said, "what about the cleaning up the trailer parks in America"?

Right but the OP was not about drugs being a problem but rather the issue of people abusing government aid to fund their drug purchases.

The issue is not about what people purchase with the money they have earned and are free to do with what they like.

If people are using the government's (our tax dollars) money there should be some control of what the money goes to. If they want to purchase drugs with money that they have earned, than that is an entirely different issue and is more consistent with the theme of your post.

 

[HERESY]

Right but the OP was not about drugs being a problem but rather the issue of people abusing government aid to fund their drug purchases.

But if drugs were no longer a problem, would people still abuse government aid to fund their drug purchases?

The issue is not about what people purchase with the money they have earned and are free to do with what they like.

So what happens when that freedom results in something taxpayers must fund?

If people are using the government's (our tax dollars) money there should be some control of what the money goes to. If they want to purchase drugs with money that they have earned, than that is an entirely different issue and is more consistent with the theme of your post.

How are you going to effectively control it's use? No cash/check and give them some type of benefits card?

 

[GTS]

uh maybe work on fixing the conditions that lead people to a life of drugs in the first place (i.e poverty, poor educational system, etc etc etc).

^^^yup

lot of people do dope cause they have no hope

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

But if drugs were no longer a problem, would people still abuse government aid to fund their drug purchases?

No. However, for the foreseeable future, drugs, alcohol, gambling, prostitution, etc will all still be "problems". Aside from a huge societal shift, all these things will always be "problems".

I don't disagree with you on solving the problem, but again the OP was about the issue people using government aid to purchase drugs and not how can we solve the drug problem.

So what happens when that freedom results in something taxpayers must fund?

IMO government should not fund that either.

How are you going to effectively control it's use? No cash/check and give them some type of benefits card?

I agree it would be nearly impossible to effectively control this, because even giving them a benefit card would just create a shift in spending habits and the creation of bartering drug trade (ie food for drugs)

 

[swoop187]

All that needs to be done is legalize dope, a little responsibility and accountability and it could help a lot.

Liberal politicians dont want the ghetto to be "cured" tho. The "ghetto" is job security to them, what else would they cry about if the ghetto and "racism" was a non factor????

Really?

Social entitlement programs invented by liberals just keeps people in the ghetto... It keeps ghetto folks dependent on the government.

If you want something done, you gotta do it your self or rely on someone you know thats really looking out for your best interests..

There plenty of options out their that can put food on a table that arent sociopathic..

 

[HERESY]

No. However, for the foreseeable future, drugs, alcohol, gambling, prostitution, etc will all still be "problems". Aside from a huge societal shift, all these things will always be "problems".

I don't disagree with you on solving the problem, but again the OP was about the issue people using government aid to purchase drugs and not how can we solve the drug problem.

The problem still persists. You can't talk about spending government aid on drugs without addressing drug use as the two are correlated. So what, you find a way to stop them from spending government aid and then what?

IMO government should not fund that either.

So if a person catches a drug case because he spent his own $20 on a crack rock, and has no money to afford a lawyer, you're saying he shouldn't be given a PD? So where would that leave PD's?

I agree it would be nearly impossible to effectively control this, because even giving them a benefit card would just create a shift in spending habits and the creation of bartering drug trade (ie food for drugs)

So what exactly is your point here? You say you agree that it would be nearly impossible to effectively control this, and say it would create a shift in spending habits and creation of bartering drug trade, but you forget that the problem still persists. So in essence, the fiend will spend the money on food or other tangibles and trade those goods for drugs. So what is the problem here that needs to be addressed? Should we seek to reduce the drug problem or should we seek to control spending habits by offering drug tests?

Logic my friend....

 

[radiostationrep]

yeah.

some of you guys need to get away from the computer.