My outlook on this subject.......
While i see the points of people arguing ''whites'' are infiltrating rap,i still think it's ignorant as hell to make such a big deal about the 1 white rapper,that happens to be in my opinion the most ''original'' to come out nowaddays,makin' it big...While being white might have made him more ''marketable'',he's a talented ass person who either way had to get his turn in the lime light....if he was black,yeah,most likely he wouldnt have ''sold'' as much....but he still would get alot of shine for coming original and breaking the monotany of hip hop/raps' ''bling bling,shake ya ass'' bullshit.....he's real ''hip hop''...iguess i i would say that i consider hip hop/rap as ''street culture'',and as homie said earlier in this thread,latinos played a ''HUGE'' part in hip hops' beginings..You got black people rollin' low riders & hittin' switches,but chicanos were the founders and did years and years before blacks decided they liked that style,too and decided to put them in videos.....i don't see whites taking over rap,but i believe if you got the skils,white,black,purple green yellow...YOU SHOULD BE HEARD..
While i see the points of people arguing ''whites'' are infiltrating rap,i still think it's ignorant as hell to make such a big deal about the 1 white rapper,that happens to be in my opinion the most ''original'' to come out nowaddays,makin' it big...While being white might have made him more ''marketable'',he's a talented ass person who either way had to get his turn in the lime light....if he was black,yeah,most likely he wouldnt have ''sold'' as much....but he still would get alot of shine for coming original and breaking the monotany of hip hop/raps' ''bling bling,shake ya ass'' bullshit.....he's real ''hip hop''...iguess i i would say that i consider hip hop/rap as ''street culture'',and as homie said earlier in this thread,latinos played a ''HUGE'' part in hip hops' beginings..You got black people rollin' low riders & hittin' switches,but chicanos were the founders and did years and years before blacks decided they liked that style,too and decided to put them in videos.....i don't see whites taking over rap,but i believe if you got the skils,white,black,purple green yellow...YOU SHOULD BE HEARD..
I agree with what you are saying, but I think the argument here is that white people are *always* biting off of black craft. I do not negate the part that latinos have played in hip hop. It is notable...poppers, breakers, graf artists, and MC's alike. But they lived in the same hoods where hip hop was born....now you have suburban white kids all over the map that are gassed off of Eminem thinking they can be the next rapper, when before it was respected more as black artistry. All things cross over. Hip Hop is now pop....and I predict that in a few years, the majority of the "hip hop" acts will all be white and black folks will create something new that will be shunned by white society and then some years down the line it will be pop music. It's all cyclical.
I was laughing at the last part "If white people who love hip hop can find a way to appreciate hip hop without having to steal it, maybe we can save it from going the way of blues, jazz, and rock… maybe hip hop will be able to stay real." when i didnt have to question what he meant by REAL. Well its a very good article, I DIDNT EVEN ANYLIZE IT RACIALLY MYSELF.....
WHY?
CAUSE IT DIDNT EVEN OCCUR TO ME. and its because people always try and make things into a racial perspective that it will always be a topic. WE ALL SHOULD JUST LEARN TO CARE LESS. It doesnt matter who starts what and who eventually picks it up. JUST DO IT.
WHY?
CAUSE IT DIDNT EVEN OCCUR TO ME. and its because people always try and make things into a racial perspective that it will always be a topic. WE ALL SHOULD JUST LEARN TO CARE LESS. It doesnt matter who starts what and who eventually picks it up. JUST DO IT.
THINK BEFORE U TALK....
UR GUNNA FUCKING MAKE ME PUKE. SHUT THE FUCK UP BITTY BOO ASS MUTHA FUCKA. SHIT U THINK WHITE PEOPLE AINT GOT SHIT IN THEY LIVES THAT GO WRONG TOO? MANE GET YO SHIT STRAIT BEFORE U OFFEND PEOPLE LIKE ME BY SAYING THAT BULLSHIT. YEA IM FUCKIN WHITE GUESS WHAT I KNOW THAT. IM STILL DEEP IN THE SICCNESS POSTING FLOWS BATTLING WHITES N BLACKS, SO FUCKIN WHAT? WE AINT TAKIN OVA THA RAP GAME, JUST A FEW OF US OUT THERE WITH A LOT OF SHIT ON OUR MIND THAT KNOW HOW TO SPIT, AND GET DOWN WITCHU NOT TAKIN OVA. THINK NEXT TIME BEFORE U POST SHIT THATS GUNNA PISS PEOPLE OFF. U SOUND LIKE A FUCKIN RACIST. ANYTIME U WANNA THROW DOWN N BATTLE ILL FUCKIN SHOW U A WHITEBOY WIT SKILLZ THATD POUND U INTO THE NEXT FUCKIN AFTA LIFE...
WE AINT TAKIN OVA SHIT WE JUST GETTIN DOWN CHILL OUT...FUCK
UR GUNNA FUCKING MAKE ME PUKE. SHUT THE FUCK UP BITTY BOO ASS MUTHA FUCKA. SHIT U THINK WHITE PEOPLE AINT GOT SHIT IN THEY LIVES THAT GO WRONG TOO? MANE GET YO SHIT STRAIT BEFORE U OFFEND PEOPLE LIKE ME BY SAYING THAT BULLSHIT. YEA IM FUCKIN WHITE GUESS WHAT I KNOW THAT. IM STILL DEEP IN THE SICCNESS POSTING FLOWS BATTLING WHITES N BLACKS, SO FUCKIN WHAT? WE AINT TAKIN OVA THA RAP GAME, JUST A FEW OF US OUT THERE WITH A LOT OF SHIT ON OUR MIND THAT KNOW HOW TO SPIT, AND GET DOWN WITCHU NOT TAKIN OVA. THINK NEXT TIME BEFORE U POST SHIT THATS GUNNA PISS PEOPLE OFF. U SOUND LIKE A FUCKIN RACIST. ANYTIME U WANNA THROW DOWN N BATTLE ILL FUCKIN SHOW U A WHITEBOY WIT SKILLZ THATD POUND U INTO THE NEXT FUCKIN AFTA LIFE...
WE AINT TAKIN OVA SHIT WE JUST GETTIN DOWN CHILL OUT...FUCK
WELL GUESS WHAT? THIS AINT 50 FUCKIN YEARS AGO AND U R A RACIST...."white defensivness at it's finest" UR AN IDIOT TOO I GOT MUCH LUV FOR BLACK PEEPS I DO. YALL STARTED DIS SHIT AND I MEARLY WALKED IN AND JOINED YALL. I KNOW THERES HEADS I CANT HANG WITH BUT ITS THE SAME WITCHU. I AINT TRYIN TO CHANGE NUTTIN HERE. I LIKE TO SAY IF U CANT CHANGE SOMTHING THERES NO SENSE IN BITCHING ABOUT IT...AND UNTILL U CAN SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS LISTENING AND CREATING RAP IS FOR BLACK PEOPLE ONLY. DEAL WITH IT CUZ I AINT GOI NO WHERE IM JUST DOIN MY THANG.
~PeaCe
~PeaCe
IM 18 YEARS OLD AIGHT. ALL THE SLAVERY ALL THE HISTORY. MANE I THINK ITS FUCKIN GAY WHAT HAPPEND. GUESS WHAT. CANT CHANGE A THING NOW.WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE THE FUTURE BETTER U GOTTA UNDERSTAND I AINT GOT NUTTIN WIT NO RACES. WAY I SEE IT WE ALL THE SAME. AND THATS TRUE WIETHER U ACCEPT IT OR NOT. STOP BY THE FLOW BAORDS ONCE IN A WHILE ULL KNOW WHAT I MEAN. READ A FEW OF MY FLOWS OR BATTLES. LIKE I SAID IM JUST DOIN MY THING, JUS LIKE EVERBODY ELSE.
~PeaCe
~PeaCe
I understand, and I am not mad at you. Continue to do your thing. I wouldn't dare ask you to do otherwise.
As participators or spectators of this artform, it is our duty to be educated on hip hop and where it came from. Half of these so-called rappers don't even know where hip hop was born or who was in the first MC battle...that goes for white, black or otherwise.
People need to stop be so defensive, and start being *honest*. Is it not true that rap, blues and jazz were all black artforms that have been adopted by whites when first they were cast out and thwarted? I do not think anybody with even menial education could deny that fact.
As participators or spectators of this artform, it is our duty to be educated on hip hop and where it came from. Half of these so-called rappers don't even know where hip hop was born or who was in the first MC battle...that goes for white, black or otherwise.
People need to stop be so defensive, and start being *honest*. Is it not true that rap, blues and jazz were all black artforms that have been adopted by whites when first they were cast out and thwarted? I do not think anybody with even menial education could deny that fact.
one thing we need to focus on....and i'm going to be str8 blunt....lowriding is ''chicano'' artistry.........hip hop is ''minority'' artistry,not ''black'' artitry,it just got focused to blacks more than latinos,but if you talk to ANYBODY from NY,where it started,it was a BRONX thing....south BRONX,which is 80% latino,that means hip hops' homeland is dominated by latinos...we're just as musical as blacks,in fact listen to most of the commercial shit nowadays,Thong song,i need a girl part 2...man the list goes onnnnn.......it's a minority thang,a street thang...not a ''black thang''.......real fuckin' got damn chop!!!
heere seketha:villains' girl
Look at it like this! In the bronx to my understanding latinos has quit a bit to do with rap as much as black people. If you think about it alot of the sounds you get from hiphop music you get that feel of latino music. I'm not saying that at that point in time that they had alot of influence on the hiphop nation due to the media but they deffently had an influence on it.
Look at it like this! In the bronx to my understanding latinos has quit a bit to do with rap as much as black people. If you think about it alot of the sounds you get from hiphop music you get that feel of latino music. I'm not saying that at that point in time that they had alot of influence on the hiphop nation due to the media but they deffently had an influence on it.
HIP HOP HAS ITS ROOTS IN *SAMPLING*. BEFORE THE ARTIST COULD AFFORD DECENT GEAR AND STUDIO TIME THEY SAMPLED.
NOW THE QUESTION IS *WHO* DID THEY SAMPLE FROM? IF LATINOS HAVE A CONNECTION TO HIP HOP WHERE DID THE MAJORITY OF THE MUSICAL *INFLUENCE* COME FROM?
JAMES BROWN
PARLIMENT FUNKADELIC
BROTHERS JOHNSON
MARLEY
(SIMPLE EXAMPLES)
WHEN I LISTEN TO OLD KRS1, STETSASONIC OR AFRICA BAMBATA I DONT HEAR A LOT OF "LATIN" SOUNDS. I DONT HEAR LATIN "MUSIC".
I HEAR SAMPLES,LOOPS,CHOPS AND WHAT NOT FROM R&B,JAZZ AND FUNK. NOT SALSA.
@CMOKE. YOU HAVE A PICTURE IN YOUR SIG WITH CAKES AND YOU HOLDING A TOOL.
1.HAVE YOU EVER PUSHED WEIGHT?
2.DO YOU OWN A FIREARM OR HAVE YOU EVER SHOT ONE AT AN ENEMY?
3.WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
@SHOHEI DID THIS TOPIC COME UP BECAUSE OF OUR CONVO LAST NIGHT? WHEN DID YOU START THIS?
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NOW THE QUESTION IS *WHO* DID THEY SAMPLE FROM? IF LATINOS HAVE A CONNECTION TO HIP HOP WHERE DID THE MAJORITY OF THE MUSICAL *INFLUENCE* COME FROM?
JAMES BROWN
PARLIMENT FUNKADELIC
BROTHERS JOHNSON
MARLEY
(SIMPLE EXAMPLES)
WHEN I LISTEN TO OLD KRS1, STETSASONIC OR AFRICA BAMBATA I DONT HEAR A LOT OF "LATIN" SOUNDS. I DONT HEAR LATIN "MUSIC".
I HEAR SAMPLES,LOOPS,CHOPS AND WHAT NOT FROM R&B,JAZZ AND FUNK. NOT SALSA.
@CMOKE. YOU HAVE A PICTURE IN YOUR SIG WITH CAKES AND YOU HOLDING A TOOL.
1.HAVE YOU EVER PUSHED WEIGHT?
2.DO YOU OWN A FIREARM OR HAVE YOU EVER SHOT ONE AT AN ENEMY?
3.WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
@SHOHEI DID THIS TOPIC COME UP BECAUSE OF OUR CONVO LAST NIGHT? WHEN DID YOU START THIS?
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Get your facts str8 mn,it started out as a chicano thing,WAAAAYYYY before blacks did it,chicanos invented hydraulics....go ahead and do the homework,it's the truth ,whether blacks want to admitt it or not........nothing against you,EDJ,but i think you need to read up..in fact look at a lowrider magazine,compared to black faces,look how many mexicano faces there are...real chop,keep it real.
LoL @ You two arguing over who invented low-riders, NOBODY KNOWS, they could of had lowriders back in 1940 for heavens sake, i mean c'mon guys... who cares who invented lowriders, lowriders are dope, how about you leave it at that? LoL@ you saying chicanos invented hydraulics, lmao... hydraulics have been used on everything from airplanes to garbage trucks, its not like they invented it right on the spot, they improvised and put it on a car, and even then it was probably allready done....
so who cares who invented lowriders and who invented hydraulics, next the argument will be who first smoked the chrons....
c;mon
lmao
so who cares who invented lowriders and who invented hydraulics, next the argument will be who first smoked the chrons....
c;mon
lmao