6 Officers Subduing 400-Pound Man Who Attacked Them

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Coroner: Drugs Found In Man Who Died In Police Altercation
Footage Shows 6 Officers Subduing 400-Pound Man Who Attacked Them
POSTED: 7:30 a.m. EST December 1, 2003
UPDATED: 5:07 p.m. EST December 1, 2003

CINCINNATI -- A nearly 400-pound man who died Sunday after struggling with Cincinnati police officers had drugs in his system and suffered from health problems, according to a coroner's report.

Police were called to the White Castle restaurant on Mitchell Avenue in Avondale just before 6 a.m. after employees reported a disorderly person outside the restaurant, Cincinnati TV station WLWT-TV reported.

The two officers who arrived first at the restaurant called for backup because Nathaniel Jones, 41, began to get violent, police said.

After Jones was restrained, officers realized something was wrong and called firefighters for help, police spokesman Lt. Kurt Byrd said.

Jones was taken to University Hospital, where he died a short time later, WLWT reported.

According to a statement from the Hamilton County coroner, Jones had a cocaine and PCP in his system at the time of his death.

Also, Jones had a "markedly enlarged heart, consistent with hypertensive heart disease," the coroner said.

The investigation revealed that Jones "had linear bruises on his right calf, right thigh, right buttock and right flank, but there was no evidence of transmission of force to internal organs," the coroner said.

An official cause of death has not been determined, WLWT reported.

Firefighters Called Back After Leaving:

Before police arrived at the scene, a rescue crew from the Cincinnati Fire Department arrived, according to videotape captured from an in-car camera in a police cruiser.

However, the videotape showed the rescue workers leaving during the officers' confrontation with Jones, according to WLWT.

After the scuffle subsided, the videotape showed officers wondering aloud where the paramedics had gone. An officer called for help, and the paramedics returned several minutes later, WLWT reported.

Six Officers Placed On Leave:

The two officers involved in the initial confrontation, James Pike and Baron Osterman, were placed on administrative leave. Four others officers who arrived after Pike and Osterman and began struggling with Jones -- Thomas Slade, Guy Abrams, Jay Johnstone and Joehonny Reese -- were placed on administrative leave as well.

A police cruiser camera recorded the entire confrontation on videotape. A portion of the tape showed one of the officers using his baton multiple times to try to restrain Jones.

Cincinnati police Lt. Col. Rick Janke said the amount of force used was consistent with protocol.

"Taking into consideration everything we've seen on the videotape, the officers did what they were trained to do," he said. "It was a very violent assault by a large man on two of our officers."

Placing the officers on leave is standard, but the way the officers were treated was unprofessional, according to Cincinnati Fraternal Order of Police President Roger Webster.

The officers were read their rights, allowed one phone call, and permitted to talk only to their attorneys and a minister, according to Webster.

"The people who witnessed this offense were sent on their way, and our officers were sat down for eight hours," he said. "Then they're interviewed. That's wrong. That's ridiculous."

The FOP asked the police chief to give the officers a 48-hour cooling-off period, but Webster said the request was denied.

"And you wonder why they don't want to work," he said. "That's exactly why they don't want to work, because they're treated worse than the criminals they arrest, and that's crap."

Pike and Osterman suffered cuts and scrapes during the confrontation.

Jones had been in trouble with the law before. He was arrested for cocaine possession in 1998. Instead of jail time, he was sentenced to a treatment program, but he violated his probation repeatedly, according to WLWT, and was sentenced in August 1998 to one year in prison.

Mayor Defends Police Action:

Black activists say the death Sunday of Nathaniel Jones, 41, was another example of police doing little or nothing to stop deaths of black men in encounters with police in recent years. The fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white police officer in April 2001 prompted three nights of rioting in Cincinnati.

Cincinnati Mayor Charlie Luken rejected black activists' demand Monday that he force police Chief Thomas Streicher Jr. to resign.

"What I saw was a 400-pound man violently attacking a police officer in a manner that put the lives of police officers at risk," Luken said after viewing the videotape, which police released to the media. "While the investigations will continue, there is nothing on those tapes to suggest that the police did anything wrong."

Luken said he agreed with the initial police assessment that the officers who struggled with Jones defended themselves as they were trained to do when attacked. The mayor has rejected previous calls by the activists for Streicher's firing or resignation.
 
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Where can we see this video tape?

Also, I have not seen this video tape yet, so I can not comment on the situation, but I find it very interesting how different your article is from MeXiCaNox4's article.

On another note, the police brutality in Cincinnati against Blacks has been fucking outragous. Even if these cops didn't beat this man to death, it doesn't mean they are innocent. Fuckin pigs have been doing it for years over there.
 
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I watched the video of this once, as disturbing as it was... My opinion above everything else -because I could go on about this for days... Police need to start using different ways of taking people down. I mean beating the shit out of him got him into their custody, but they could have done that without taking his life.

And this shit used to happen here in Louisville like twice a year. Hasn't happened since we've had our new chief of police (who is black, though I doubt it really makes that difference)...
The last incident here... an ederly black man(JAMES TAYLOR) was shot about 16 times until he died...They say he was 'a threat' to the officers lives... BUT WAIT!! Ol dude was in a folding chair with his hands cuffed behind his back.... they say he had a sharp box cutter-type weapon, and was waving it at them like he was going to cut them.. C"MON NOW!!! A skinny, ederly man handcuffed to a chair, and 4 big muscular lookin cops had to shoot him 16 x to 'get him under control'?????? WHAT THE FUC EVER.

The same cop who was most involved in this shooting - came to my complex on a criminal mischief call(something insanely ridiculous)... I told him it was petty that the cops were even called when they could of been handling something more important... The cop got heated and ended up putting me in cuffs for 'telling him how to do his job'... so that's when I really start running my mouth. I told him "if i wanted to tell you how to do your job, I would've suggested you holding a tazer to James Taylor's throat instead of putting 16 hot ones in him" That cop is now in the DEA unit and no longer does calls like that...
Police brutality is still a huge problem in my city, even though no ones been killed by the police YET this year.
 
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they beat dudes ass cause he tried to swing on um.


i dont get it. he swung on them. but there wrong for beating his ass.

if someone swings on you. wtf are you gonna do. ima beat there ass till they cant move.
 
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Ok Fuck that.
i saw the video again and they were pretty much stabbing him with their batons or whatever the hell... that's a little too much ... I don't kno how these cops are trained but they need to learn how to knock someone the fuck out without killing them.
 
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i dont think he died from the beating, i think it was more from the messed up enlarged heart and PCP on COCAINE that he was high on
LMAO....your like that right winger old fart on Hannity and Colmes

that fool was stupid as fuck ... it isn't known yet what the guy died of.


the old fart called, him "biggie big", stupid fuck.
 
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Fuck the police. Normally when u see cops take down a suspect who fights with 'em, they'll get more officers and wrestle him to the ground. But they beat the shyt out this mane. And u know they didnt show all the tape. We dont know what happened before or after the tape stopped rolling...
 
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Where can we see this video tape?

Also, I have not seen this video tape yet, so I can not comment on the situation, but I find it very interesting how different your article is from MeXiCaNox4's article.

On another note, the police brutality in Cincinnati against Blacks has been fucking outragous. Even if these cops didn't beat this man to death, it doesn't mean they are innocent. Fuckin pigs have been doing it for years over there.

I heard that 16 black folks have been killed by the police over there in the last few years. That's not natural.
 
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i dont think its the "swinging" on them that made them beat his ass....i think its the fact that he was just a big ass dude...

lets face it...it took a while for them to get him to the ground...
dude should have never swung...he would still be here...i would think!!

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^ Of course the PCP and COCAINE consumption along with swinging at the cops had nothing to do with it. He should have never done that, and he would be alive right now. But blame a white man, it's easy.^
 
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Man, you ignorant bastard. Why is it that I always see you in these race threads? Always defending the white man? I'm sure you think Rodney King deserved to get his ass beat? Same with this big man, right? Or I'm sure you think Diallo deserved to get shot 41 times by the pigs, right?

Give it up man. You know damn well there are other methods of taking a man down. I bet if this same man was a big ass white dude they would have sprayed him with pepper spray.

I saw this tape, and its the same shit thats been going on for years. Shit's disgusting.