**2nd Annual Official '09 SF GIants reg. season Thread**
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I think it also has to do with Bengie calling the same pitches over and over: slider outside, then nibble with the fastball, slider again or fastball, fastball, fastball, etc....
He needs to mix his pitches better and I think Whiteside does a good job doing that....and he also needs to start using his change-up more (used it 3.8% of the time in 2007 vs. 0.3 % this season)
He needs to mix his pitches better and I think Whiteside does a good job doing that....and he also needs to start using his change-up more (used it 3.8% of the time in 2007 vs. 0.3 % this season)
You're Right, Bengie does a Great Job with the Youth...With the Exception of Brian Wilson
I do vouch for Sandoval or Whiteside to Catch when Zito is on the Mound, and Whiteside exclusively for Wilson
Bengie calls too many fastballs, and if you say Bengie does a bad job calling games, You'll get alot from Giants Fans...He's almost strictly fastballs...the Reason he's been so successful using Cain, Lincecum and Pitchers Like Sergio Romo is cause all THEIR FASTBALLS HAVE GOOD MOVEMENT...Cain is more of a Cutter, Sinker FB thrower Now. Doesn't throw 95-98 Anymore, cause he's learned to pitch for precision not Strikeouts, those come naturally...Lincecum is Using his Two seamer More, going from 92-94 and He AWESOME movement, which makes his Changeups even more effective and the High 4 seamer hard to hit, changing sight and movement on the Pitch..
Sergio Romo, Has crazy Movement, Think Joel Zumaya Minus the 101 MPH Fast ball with Movement, he's more at 91-93 MPH with great Fastball movement, and great Slider that goes away from a righty, and down and in towards a lefty.
Then you have Wilson, Zito, their Fastballs and straight with no movement, If you don't have movement in your FB and their just flat, you're going to get smacked around....That's Why Mariano has been so successful, You know the Cutter is Coming, but you never know when It'll cut in on you, If you're a lefty and away from you if you're a righty..
I do vouch for Sandoval or Whiteside to Catch when Zito is on the Mound, and Whiteside exclusively for Wilson
Bengie calls too many fastballs, and if you say Bengie does a bad job calling games, You'll get alot from Giants Fans...He's almost strictly fastballs...the Reason he's been so successful using Cain, Lincecum and Pitchers Like Sergio Romo is cause all THEIR FASTBALLS HAVE GOOD MOVEMENT...Cain is more of a Cutter, Sinker FB thrower Now. Doesn't throw 95-98 Anymore, cause he's learned to pitch for precision not Strikeouts, those come naturally...Lincecum is Using his Two seamer More, going from 92-94 and He AWESOME movement, which makes his Changeups even more effective and the High 4 seamer hard to hit, changing sight and movement on the Pitch..
Sergio Romo, Has crazy Movement, Think Joel Zumaya Minus the 101 MPH Fast ball with Movement, he's more at 91-93 MPH with great Fastball movement, and great Slider that goes away from a righty, and down and in towards a lefty.
Then you have Wilson, Zito, their Fastballs and straight with no movement, If you don't have movement in your FB and their just flat, you're going to get smacked around....That's Why Mariano has been so successful, You know the Cutter is Coming, but you never know when It'll cut in on you, If you're a lefty and away from you if you're a righty..
LOL that's all HE THROWS is Heat, You can't keep Throwing Heat...You can Only throw 97-100 MPH fastball by someone for so long until they figure out that's all you have and they'll be sitting fastball everytime and will capitalize on your lack of pitch selection
Trevor Hoffman was The Perfect Example for a Closer, in his Prime would throw 94-96 MPH with an 83-85 MPH Changeup....That's what made him so effective throwing the hitter off....Now his fastball goes from 85-88 MPH, but he's also learned to slow his Change up 78-83 MPH and still has the same movement as he did in the 90s....
You can't keep throwing 95-100 and your only off speed pitch goes for 91-92, He doesn't have a Rob Nen type Slider
Trevor Hoffman was The Perfect Example for a Closer, in his Prime would throw 94-96 MPH with an 83-85 MPH Changeup....That's what made him so effective throwing the hitter off....Now his fastball goes from 85-88 MPH, but he's also learned to slow his Change up 78-83 MPH and still has the same movement as he did in the 90s....
You can't keep throwing 95-100 and your only off speed pitch goes for 91-92, He doesn't have a Rob Nen type Slider
He does throw a change up (Ave. velocity is 84.6 MPH vs. his 96.2 MPH Fastball), but practically doesn't use it. If he is able to gain confidence in that pitch, he'll become exponentially more effective. In regards to his slider, its good but he just doesn't seem to use it as effectively (throwing it in the right counts, making hitters chase it, etc) as he should.
Well, I think Brian Wilson has to ease off abit...Usually when he has three run leads, He'll throw 98-100 down the Middle just to throw it in hopes it goes into play and he gets an out....I mean If you're that good then you're that good, but c'mon sooner or later you can alone throw 100 MPH heaters past someone for so long....I really think it's the Pitch selection of Bengie Molina, Watch Bengie Catch Zito, the majority are fastballs....Earlier in the season when Pablo would catch him, He mixed up his Changeup and Curve more, Zito when Molina is catching What I've been seeing lately is Fastball and Change and Dang Molina isn't utilizing all his Pitches
But If Brian Wilson can calm down he'll be fine, man he's a heartattack waiting to happen LOL
But If Brian Wilson can calm down he'll be fine, man he's a heartattack waiting to happen LOL
