14 states may target birthright citizenship
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America has been "importing" and using Mexican agricultural labor since the early teens, before that it was mainly white people making food for white people, and the minorities getting access to sub-standard food if they didn't grow own their own farms. Now in this age of variety Mexicans are still, and have been working their asses off to provide us with our genetically modified shit so I don't know about what you were saying 50.
Bottom line....FUCK YOU if you aren't against these bullshit proposed laws. I would like to see all the lazy "citizens" of this country that are on welfare or unemployment, working the fields. And who said they don't pay taxes? Eventually those kids born to illegal immigrants will grow up themselves, make money, and pay their federal taxes. It's the same cycle as when, for example, Irish descents came to this country. Except it's Mexicans this time.
you mean working in the fields making next to nothing.
you gotta remember where crime usually comes from.
pepole who's family make little or no money. aka poverty.
so the children be like f that imma get mines.
stealing drug dealing whatever.
look how dense LA is with the illegals
what are their children doing ??
oh yeah they're surenos.
the track record for children born here from illegaly parents aint great.(those kids of poor illegals make up most of your gangs)
im taking asian too not just mexicans and el salvadorians. chinese/vietnamese.
First..I think the whole issue is not just a Mexican thing..its anyone who comes here illegal (Just wanted to note that) 2nd the percentage of illegal immigrants that are in this country that actually work in agriculture is not that high. Also remember we also import food as well. In addition several years back there was more then twice the amount of small farms which the families would work the land themselves (You may not believe this but with my age and experience I have run into people who live in places who never seen an illegal immigrant places with only one stop light in their town....who only ate Chinese food once and that is over an hour away.
......My biggest point if none of the above you do not agree with is that.....If for whatever reason we can not adequately farm for food supply sources then we can give green cards or create a pathway to citizenship to those who are willing to come here legally and do those jobs..............
Look around the world and you may see that other countries around the world are strict in regard illegal immigrants. Even look at what it takes to visit some places. For Instance some countries may not even grant a tourist Visa, but allow a few days to transit through country. You have to have your visas and passports on you at all times and being a foreigner will be asked to present these for any reason.
......My biggest point if none of the above you do not agree with is that.....If for whatever reason we can not adequately farm for food supply sources then we can give green cards or create a pathway to citizenship to those who are willing to come here legally and do those jobs..............
Look around the world and you may see that other countries around the world are strict in regard illegal immigrants. Even look at what it takes to visit some places. For Instance some countries may not even grant a tourist Visa, but allow a few days to transit through country. You have to have your visas and passports on you at all times and being a foreigner will be asked to present these for any reason.
So what is the point of having any immigration policy at all?
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Wow even children of congressman and senators are unemployed or evade federal taxes; why are children of illegal immigrants immune to doing that?
I never knew the Irish were crossing their border with the US
(ps - just because a cycle repeats is in no way a criteria for defining it as an advantageous cycle)
Domestic violence can occur in a cycle, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to break the cycle :classic:
Me too
Professional tax and immigration experts.
Wow even children of congressman and senators are unemployed or evade federal taxes; why are children of illegal immigrants immune to doing that?
I never knew the Irish were crossing their border with the US
(ps - just because a cycle repeats is in no way a criteria for defining it as an advantageous cycle)
Domestic violence can occur in a cycle, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to break the cycle :classic:
And if the gov wanted they could allow these people to pay taxes legally and most everyone would sign up, its not like any illegal people come over with the intent to scam the gov out of tax dollars. I work with homeless people everyday on the streets of san jose and 90% of the illegals I deal with go stand by home depot and lowes day in and day out just wanting an honest days work, meanwhile 90% of the legals go panhandle or are "waiting on my ssi ssdi case or im number 15242 on the section 8 wait list i cant work" Please don't confuse a broken immigration system with illegals trying to leach off of people that work ..
look at what i have in bold down there and get back at me. LOTS of "mexicans" would be headed back to Europe too then.
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Spanish Society
The Spanish continued to rule over most of Mexico until 1821 when Mexico achieved status as an independent country. During that time, the availability of inexpensive land attracted other Spanish immigrants who sought the social status afforded to land owners by Spanish society at that time. These permanent settlers gave rise to four distinct social classes:
* Peninsulars, or the ruling class, were people born in Spain or Portugal. To maintain the line, some men sent their wives back to Spain to give birth, to ensure that their children also achieved "peninsular" status.
* Criollos were people of pure Spanish descent who were born in New Spain. It was this group, with the support of mestizos and other lower classes, that initiated the 11 years of rebellion to claim independence for Mexico in 1821, in response to increasing taxes and regulations by the Crown.
* Mestizos were people of mixed blood (generally used to identify Spanish/Indian ancestry) who ranked lower than the criollos in New Spain’s social hierarchy. Most Mexicans today (more than 65%) are descended from this group.
* Indigenas are the native Indians of Mexico. Prior to Mexican independence, several classifications were commonly used by the Spanish to identify people with Indian ancestry, including: indio (Indian), mestizo (half Indian/half white), zambo (half-Indian/half African) and lobo (three-quarters African/one-quarter Indian).
While Mexico has welcomed many other immigrants to its shores, the majority of its population descends from the Spanish, the Indians, or are of mixed Spanish and Indian heritage (mestizos). Blacks and some Asians are also part of the Mexican population.
Where Did They Live?
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Spanish Society
The Spanish continued to rule over most of Mexico until 1821 when Mexico achieved status as an independent country. During that time, the availability of inexpensive land attracted other Spanish immigrants who sought the social status afforded to land owners by Spanish society at that time. These permanent settlers gave rise to four distinct social classes:
* Peninsulars, or the ruling class, were people born in Spain or Portugal. To maintain the line, some men sent their wives back to Spain to give birth, to ensure that their children also achieved "peninsular" status.
* Criollos were people of pure Spanish descent who were born in New Spain. It was this group, with the support of mestizos and other lower classes, that initiated the 11 years of rebellion to claim independence for Mexico in 1821, in response to increasing taxes and regulations by the Crown.
* Mestizos were people of mixed blood (generally used to identify Spanish/Indian ancestry) who ranked lower than the criollos in New Spain’s social hierarchy. Most Mexicans today (more than 65%) are descended from this group.
* Indigenas are the native Indians of Mexico. Prior to Mexican independence, several classifications were commonly used by the Spanish to identify people with Indian ancestry, including: indio (Indian), mestizo (half Indian/half white), zambo (half-Indian/half African) and lobo (three-quarters African/one-quarter Indian).
While Mexico has welcomed many other immigrants to its shores, the majority of its population descends from the Spanish, the Indians, or are of mixed Spanish and Indian heritage (mestizos). Blacks and some Asians are also part of the Mexican population.
Where Did They Live?
BUT REALLY THO, I GOT A FEW HOMIES WHO HAVE HAD PROBLEMS, FOR NO REASON OTHER THEN BEING ILLEGAL...
I GOT A MEXICAN HOMIE NAMED "LEONARDO" AND HE'S ILLEGAL, SO I CALL HIM "ILL LEO". AND ALL RESPECTED IT AND THATS NOW HIS NICKNAME, WITH A 99% MEXICAN GANG.
HIS BROTHER GOT DEPORTED IN LIKE '07 WE AINT HEARD FROM HIM...
-GOT A MEX HOMIE NAMED BRAULLIO, ME N MY BOY WENT TO GO VISIT HIM AT THE HOSPITAL, AND WE WERENT ALLOWED IN BECAUSE WE WERENT MEXICAN, WE WAS NIGGAS, AINT THAT IRONIC. IM NOT RELATED TO HIM, BUT THAT'S FAM
I GOT A MEXICAN HOMIE NAMED "LEONARDO" AND HE'S ILLEGAL, SO I CALL HIM "ILL LEO". AND ALL RESPECTED IT AND THATS NOW HIS NICKNAME, WITH A 99% MEXICAN GANG.
HIS BROTHER GOT DEPORTED IN LIKE '07 WE AINT HEARD FROM HIM...
-GOT A MEX HOMIE NAMED BRAULLIO, ME N MY BOY WENT TO GO VISIT HIM AT THE HOSPITAL, AND WE WERENT ALLOWED IN BECAUSE WE WERENT MEXICAN, WE WAS NIGGAS, AINT THAT IRONIC. IM NOT RELATED TO HIM, BUT THAT'S FAM
majority of mexicans today derived from spanish decent though. just like alot of the white folks here in the us today derived from all sorts of different white folks (jews, germans, irish, polish, russian etc. etc.). meaning.....if the white people in north america are told to go back to europe like alot of morons say on this subject...then so must go the majority of mexicans then.
I like this post except for your use of unsupported statistics.
Either way, I agree, and like I said in a earlier post, I don't blame the individual who is here illegally who is trying to better their life, I blame people who support a system that consistently seeks to maintain more people than jobs (to the detriment of most)