#1 Timothy Bradley vs #2 Devon Alexander

[Johnny Truelove]

chorizo ass fight lol what a waste of hype! and damn alexander is one ugly muthafucka! he has to be the ugliest muthafucka to ever put on a pair of gloves! lol glad Bradley won he needs the money to feed his fat mexican wife and her 3 kids that he's taking care of lmao

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

lol can't get much more ripped than that

lol I know, that was my point. Dudes abs stick out like a foot and a half off his body.

This fight sucked balls. Devon fought a dumb fight. Sellin wolf tickets about this great game plan. It sucked.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

if only bradley knew how to punch with all his weight he could have knocked him out.

the good news is HBO is not willing to do a rematch, so all that rematch talk alexander was talking about post-fight aint gonna happen.

Bradley calling out amir khan. now that is the best fight at 140. Stylistically should be much more pleasing for fans too

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Andre Berto - U can't train that thing that beats in ya chest either have it or u dont

Vinny Paz - how does a headbutt to your cheek "burn"? he's a *****. a quitter. that **** is non-cipher. Jake LaMotta is laughing at him..98-93
Bradley... Devon Alexander is a certified *****!

Ishe Smith - How can people call an undefeated guy a coward or say he has no balls when he pretty much beat everyone he fought. Amazing to me man.

Mean Joe Greene - Devin quit man

Amir Khan - If that was me id have told the doctor i was fine. He wanted the fight stopped

Brian Viloria - Looks like Alexander took the easy way out.

Mark Atkins - I think Alexander could have gone on




Some other thoughts

Lou DiBella - He could have continued. 8-2 or 7-3 Bradley. DREADFUL and the runner quit. DREADFUL.

Michael Rosenthal - Good grief. Alexander could have continued.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Alexander's corner should have asked for time.
During that entire altercation they didn't even speak to their fighter.
Maybe they knew or maybe his corner just sucks ass.

Anyways, what is very interesting is that the Over/Under was 9.5 rounds and that paid almost 4 to 1. It didn't go half way into the 10th. Just saying...

 

[antdogg2390]

Timothy Bradley holding it down for our hometown. Dude is the truth!

 

[bigface]

This fight proved that both dudes ain't ready for the big boys. Devon went out like a bitch for real. I don't think anyone of these dudes can beat even Berto. Bradley needs to clean out the 140lb before he moves up to the big dawgs. Next should be Khan for him. Devon's bitch ass should fight Madina.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

yeah I agree bigface. I was thinking before the fight, the winner would be perfect for pacquiao. But now I think it basically showed us neither are ready. Bradley needs another fight or two before fighting the likes of pac or floyd. If he can beat Amir Khan later in the year, and look good doing it, then yeah, make it happen. Right now though, pac would fuck him up terribly.

Alexander he needs work. He's only 23. The good thing for him is 140 is so stacked he can fight anyone and have a good fight. He should look to fight Maidana if he wants to make a statement. On the other hand losing to Maidana would really fuck his career.

 

[bigface]

They both don't have enough power to keep the big dawgs off of them. Manny would give both of them dudes a David Diaz ass whipping. Mayweather would make them both look like rookies to the sport of boxing.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

what's funny to me is Alexander does have good power, he just doesn't know how to use it properly. Watching Alexander vs Bradley, if you have never watched these guys fight before you'd never know that Alexander was the bigger puncher. He just didn't sit on his punches AT ALL. He had a few shots he landed cleanly on Bradley but they had no effect because he put nothing into it. And where was the famous uppercut??

Alexander has the tools, just needs a lot of sharpening. He doesn't listen to his corner well, he's like Jermain Taylor.

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

Bradley's biggest issue isn't not using his whole body, he would still have decent power if he punched with the correct part of his fist. He punches with his gloves but not his knuckles. That's part of the reason why Pacquiao is such a good puncher because he nearly always punches with his knuckles correctly and with reyes gloves, it's even more lethal.

Alexander was jabbing with his hand open a lot which is faster but doesn't hurt nearly as bad. I gotta think Khan blasts Bradley for some reason but that's why they fight. I actually think MAidana might wear down and beat Alexander for some reason.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

that's probably true. I still think more of it has to do with not using his weight. A few days before the fight, Tommy Hearns met with Bradley and they got in the ring together. Hearns was showing Bradley how to punch. Bradley said afterwords he was "astonished" that you could punch using your entire body. This is basic stuff you'd think he would know by now, but he was really blown away. I forgot who but some pro (maybe berto) said bradley still punches like he's in the amateurs. I think that's true. He's punching to make contact. He really doesn't know how to put force on his shots, and you'd think with his style he most certainly would like to.

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

I remember reading that story about him working with Hearns (who actually looked like he'd never worked the pads with another fighter before) and Bradley saying that. Bradley definitely squares up WAY too much which does sap some power for sure. He's not a very sharp puncher and that's the difference between elite fighters and good fighters. Look at how Cotto used to punch, or Pacquiao, or Marquez. They land in a very specific range on the chin instead of the cheek or top of the head etc... Marquez wears dudes down because he continually hits them on or near the point of the chin. You can't take those shots all night. I was surprised that Alexander knocked Urango out, but he was hitting him on the chin all night. You can't do that forever no matter who you are.

 

[MOREBASS]

Good point Chris. Bradley doesn't turn his hands over when he punches. That's a huge problem.

That's basic pad work 101: Turn your fucking hands over!

 

[WYNO707X4]

punchers are born...bradlley aint no puncher

 

[2-0-Sixx]

^^they have to be taught as well. Going back to Tommy Hearns, as an Amateur his record was 155-8 with only 7 KO's. Once he turned Pro that's when Emanuel Stewerd really taught hearns how to punch and use all of his body. Hearns as an amateur could barely crack an egg and of course as a pro became one of the biggest punchers of all time.

 

[CHRISHOGGALYPSE]

Keep in mind that fights are only 3 rounds in the amateurs too though. Amateur boxers frustrate the hell out of me because they don't listen most of the time. Don't get my started on that.

 

[WYNO707X4]

dont they use head gear in the amateurs? its kinda hard to knock somebody out

 

[naner12]

dont they use head gear in the amateurs? its kinda hard to knock somebody out

They do but it's also easier to get counts and get a stoppage. If you take one hard punch you're taking a count, if you're pinned up in the corner taking little pitter pat punches you're taking a count. It's much much easier to get a TKO in the amateur ranks plus the amount of garbage boxers and young kids lacking major technique increases big time too in small state golden gloves etc.

To have less than 10 stoppages in that many amateur bouts is really a shame unless he was in against the cream of the crop each time out, which is highly unlikely.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

right exactly.

Hearns definitely didn't have it easy. You have to remember this was back in the 70's when boxing was really at around it's peak, so the quality of fighters was immense.

He was the National Golden Gloves champ in '77, he did well in the '76 National Golden Gloves tournament losing to Aaron Pryor.

He also competed in a USA vs Soviet Union tournament in '77 as well, and we all know how fierce the Soviets were, especially back then.

Back then Hearns was strictly a boxer. He resorted back to this style in a few of his pro fights if you recall.

Anyways, here is what I dug up:

1975
Western Golden Gloves (Las Vegas) Bantamweight: 3°
- Miguel Ayala
National Golden Gloves (Knoxville) Bantamweight: 2°
+ Mar 26 Wardell Williams
+ Mar 26 Rudy Orozco, points
- Mar 27 Miguel Ayala
United States AAU Championships (Shreveport) Featherweight:
+ Jun 10 Steve Dement, points
- Opponent

1976
National Golden Gloves (Miami) Lightweight: 2°
+ Mar 27 Pat Jefferson, points
- Mar 27 Aaron Pryor, points
United States AAU Championships Lightweight: 2°
+ Howard Jones, points
- May 15 Howard Davis, points - Hearns fought injured
Inaugural President's Cup (Jakarta) Juniorwelterweight: 2°
+ Dec Suranat Hardas (MLS), KO
+ Dec Opponent (JAP), KO
+ Dec Opponent (EGY), KO
- Dec 12 Syamsul Anwar Harahap (INA), points (2-3)

1977
USA vs Soviet Union Dual Meet (Las Vegas) Juniorwelterweight:
+ Jan 29 Vladimir Vassilev (URS), points
National Golden Gloves (Honolulu) Welterweight: 1°
+ Mar 30 Curtis Hockenberry, points
+ Apr 1 Ronnie Shields, points
+ Apr 3 Bobby Joe Young, points
United States AAU Championships (Winston-Salem) Juniorwelterweight: 1°
+ May 6 Andre Curry, points
+ May 8 Bobby Joe Young, points - Voted Fighter of the Tournament
England vs USA International (London), Lightweight:
+ Jun 16 George Gilbody (GBR), points
Canada vs USA Dual Meet (Montreal), Lightweight:
+ Jun 26 Cole Rafferty (CAN), points
USA vs Poland Dual Meet (Las Vegas):
+ Aug 13 Opponent (POL), points
USA vs Poland Dual Meet (Detroit):
+ Aug 16 Hogdan Gajda (POL), points​

Here is a video of 17 year old hearns losing to aaron pryor. As you can see everything hearns was throwing was all arm punches. No real power.



Here is an interview with Hearns some years ago:

Q: From what I understand, is it true that you were not a knockout puncher as an amateur, but that you became one as a professional through The Kronk with that devastating right hand set up by that sensational jab?

A: Yes that is true. The Kronk brought it out of me. Emanuel Steward brought it out of me because he showed me how and I learned how to put my weight behind my punches. Before that, I was just arm-punching and winning and every once in a blue moon, I would stop a guy.

But I wasn't knocking them out before, I was just stopping them because of my boxing ability. But once Emanuel showed me how to sit down on my punches, that's all that it took. It all goes back to the golden gloves and the AAU.

Once I started taking on those older fighters and showing them that I belonged there and they started to recognize me, then I started to gain respect. It was in my blood after that.