“[The US] is the most savage, cruel and murderous empire that has existed..."
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You guys have great argument over religion and political issues, but none of you really have argued the use of religion to promote the power to sacrifice the lives of innocent people. Religion being used to kill, I think that’s one we can all agree with. Most religion like Christianity, Buddhism, Atheist, Hindu, Taoism, Catholicism, Socialist, humanist, and/or people-ist…. a lot of belief-isms condemns any form of killing of innocent people, yet our political views, even respectively belonging to those “non-killing” beliefs, have found some how to promote the right to kill - “I believe in one just to suit my other believe.”
Now, how can you be identified as a true believer when you contradict yourself with having national & politics stands? If Good & God is number one, shouldn’t killing and wars be off the radar list?
Is killing right or wrong? If killing is right, then Al Qaeda’s has the right to believe the US destroying their culture to take a stand 9/11, just as much as the US beliefs about terrorism harming the USA’s way of life the US must take a stand to declare war. They are one in the same, one killing for the sake of killing some sort of collective belief. Another question is, how does one stand behind his/hers countries historical killing of innocent people yet condemn another country historical killing of innocent people. Iraq went and killed their own people! The USA went and killed their own people! Should death be to those in the majority or to the minorities? Who is right or wrong when it comes down to one’s belief… the one with the biggest guns or the one with the strongest belief?
Do you believe in the freedom of religion or only the freedom of your religion?
Now, how can you be identified as a true believer when you contradict yourself with having national & politics stands? If Good & God is number one, shouldn’t killing and wars be off the radar list?
Is killing right or wrong? If killing is right, then Al Qaeda’s has the right to believe the US destroying their culture to take a stand 9/11, just as much as the US beliefs about terrorism harming the USA’s way of life the US must take a stand to declare war. They are one in the same, one killing for the sake of killing some sort of collective belief. Another question is, how does one stand behind his/hers countries historical killing of innocent people yet condemn another country historical killing of innocent people. Iraq went and killed their own people! The USA went and killed their own people! Should death be to those in the majority or to the minorities? Who is right or wrong when it comes down to one’s belief… the one with the biggest guns or the one with the strongest belief?
Do you believe in the freedom of religion or only the freedom of your religion?
You apparently know nothing about slavery if you think Iraq under Saddam was worse then slavery times in the U.S. I think times under a slave master in the United States is probably 10x's worse then Saddam. Did Saddam Rule for 500 years?
Atleast people earned some kind of wage under Saddam
Atleast people could go to school under Saddam yet alone look at a book
Lord the list could go on and on
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Atleast people earned some kind of wage under Saddam
Atleast people could go to school under Saddam yet alone look at a book
Lord the list could go on and on
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No Saddam did not rule for 500 years, and the Slave trade was not going to the settelers in America for 500 years, whats your point? Ive talked to sevral people who own big contracting firms and they were made to work on prjects for saddam. Buiding roads, buildings, statues. They were not paied one dime. One dude was even owed 1,000,000 + in wages he was promised form sadam over 10 years of work. Yes people could go to school, where they were taught Pro-muslim and anti-western socity ideas. Websites, and news were blocked. Al Jezera was the main soruce of news for people in IRaq. IF none of u have read it go to Aljezera.com and see for yourself, what they call "news". so yeah my list could go on and on. Either way, both regimes needed to be ended.
The only way it is worse in Iraq then under sadam is that there is fighting, however that is all insurgents who are mainly forgin fighters. It is better under the democratic Iraq. I talk to the people opf this country every day who live this shit every day, the majority are happy saddam is gone, most of them fear us leaving because they are scared the IA and IP arnt ready yet. However this will eb a great country.
PS who ever said that Iraqis like black people is sadly mistaken.
PS who ever said that Iraqis like black people is sadly mistaken.
What do you mean whats my point?
You can't compare Saddams regime to slavery it's the most idiotic comment I've ever heard on this board.
You can't compare Saddams regime to people who were packed into a boat like a sardine can and forced to leave there native countries to go to another place where they were treated like animals.
You can't compare Saddams regime to CENTURIES of mass rape of African women by there slave masters. You can't compare Saddams regime to CENTURIES of mass rape of little African girls by there slave masters.
Did Saddam ever strip pregnant women, tied them down, cut there stomach open, snatched the baby out of there stomach, then throw it on the ground and stomp on the babies head?
Don't compare what my ancestors went through to life under Saddam, you know nothing about slavery. You need to quit watching those racist black and white movies romanticizing the slave trade.
You can't even compare Saddams regime to life after the slave trade, the jim crow era, or the civil rights era.
You couldn't compare Saddams rule to 37 years under Mobutu in Zaire, or the apartheid years under the racist white regime which America supported until they couldn't support it anymore.
Sorry you can't see this :dead:
You can't compare Saddams regime to slavery it's the most idiotic comment I've ever heard on this board.
You can't compare Saddams regime to people who were packed into a boat like a sardine can and forced to leave there native countries to go to another place where they were treated like animals.
You can't compare Saddams regime to CENTURIES of mass rape of African women by there slave masters. You can't compare Saddams regime to CENTURIES of mass rape of little African girls by there slave masters.
Did Saddam ever strip pregnant women, tied them down, cut there stomach open, snatched the baby out of there stomach, then throw it on the ground and stomp on the babies head?
Don't compare what my ancestors went through to life under Saddam, you know nothing about slavery. You need to quit watching those racist black and white movies romanticizing the slave trade.
You can't even compare Saddams regime to life after the slave trade, the jim crow era, or the civil rights era.
You couldn't compare Saddams rule to 37 years under Mobutu in Zaire, or the apartheid years under the racist white regime which America supported until they couldn't support it anymore.
Sorry you can't see this :dead:
You missed my point, but still the insurgents came after the US invaded and destroyed the government. Also, I was talking about women and women's rights in Iraq. Sure, NOW they're in college and the right-wingers want to say how great it is for them. However, the people who want to write the constitution are theocrats, and they are including text that will set women back in that country. As far as the Iraqis being able to continue the fighting themselves; how can they? The first army was disbanded, and they can't ever be in the army. This new Army they have is full of half-assed people who don't know anything. There aren't enough ppl out there training these soldiers while they're fighting theocratical fighters who have the mentality and the training with years of experience. That country is fucked.
Yup your right, Under Sadams regime, women and christians had it better..Sadam isnt really a religious guy so he did not impose a strong islamic law onto his people, its kind of ironic that iraq has "allah ou Akbar" on its flag...With this new Iraq, its paving the way for an islamic state, which equals bullshit if you ask me, but what can u do, that is what the majority wants...So just like homie said, IRAQ is fucked, especialy for iraqi christians and women.
Setting women back? ha ha do you know that if a woman was raped she was killed. Do you know if you talked to a woman and she was not your sister or your wife she could be stoned. Women couldnt drive cars, vote, go out alone, look at a man, talk to a man they were not related to. How exactly are we setting women back??????????????? Now they can vote, drive, serve in the army, work, and go to school. I fail to see how we are setting them back. However you prob know more then me since u are in iraq and im in the comfert of my own home ha ha ha.....oh wait. The new army is better trained then the old, and they are more determaned. They wouldnt fight for saddam and more surrendered then fought. However now they are fighting for thier new freedoms, families, friends, and fellow soldier next to them to secure the streets of this contry. They are trained by the 2nd most efficiant army in the world (the US Army) How do you say they arnt trained enough, im 20 and am in the army national guard, and am still more proficent then the insurgents.
ha ha like i said before women have it better now.and "Allah ou Akbar" is not a muslm thing, its aribic for "God is great" they worship the same God i do as a catholic. Its just like our "in god we trust" Only time will tell, however i think they will have a real chance at peace once the insurgency is squashed. Christians and quakers founded the US, jews, anarchests, athiests, satinists, muslims, and whatever else you want to belive in is all the same. Its going to be a long hard road but it can be done.