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[HERESY]

In all honesty, Main Events will probably lose the bid intentionally and probably won't fight Stevenson at all. They don't want to give Stevenson a hefty payday plus Kovalev's money is secured with HBO. All the money is fighting vs Kovalev not Stevenson so there you have it.

Losing the bid intentionally and not fighting means they ducked. Look man, I know you guys hate Haymon and all but Stevenson went back to HBO and tried to get them to match and they wouldn't do it. Have you guys read the shit HBO wanted? Kovalev should be on his knees thanking the man because HBO a was set up to RAPE both guys.

 

[HERESY]

Oh yeah, FNF ends in May as Haymon inked a deal with ESPN. I called it.

You give Haymon 3-5 years and boxing will be totally different from today it isn't even funny. And if you think these people are going to let one black man control this sport you're crazy as fuck.

Don't be surprised if the shit in boxing becomes consolidated in the 3-5.

 

[heyzel]

it's nothing they can do heresy once the pbc makes their own belts the sanctioning body and promoters will be out of business al haymon has the picture and pbc will be the main organization for boxing just imagine how many boxers that are going to make the jump once thing becomes successful golden boy and top rank & hbo can't compete with the pays al is handing out

 

[heyzel]

Broner: Hopefully we [Khan] fight on June 6th at 147
date March 28th, 2015 | Post Comment - 17 Comments

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broner123By Scott Gilfoid: Former three division world champion Adrien Broner (30-1, 22 KOs) says he wants to fight Amier Khan (30-1, 19 KOs) on June 6th in a fight that would take place at 147 pounds if Khan agrees to the fight.

The two of them had recently talked about wanting to face each other. It was thought that Broner was just talking to get attention from boxing fans and from writers in the sport. However, it now looks like Broner was dead serious when he called Khan out, because he’s saying he hopes Khan will face him in three months from now, presumably in Broner’s hometown of Cincinnati, Ohio.

“Face-timed Amir ‘King’ Khan yesterday; hopefully we get this fight on for #June 6th #147 #anybodycangetit #AboutBillions,”.

Broner, 25, is tentatively scheduled to fight on June 20th in Cincinnati. Broner is looking for a big name to fight, and Khan is the closest thing that comes to fitting that description.

In Broner’s last fight, he easily defeated the big hitting John Molina by an impressive 12 round unanimous decision. Broner both slugged and boxed during the fight, and was able to totally dominate a very good fighter. It was a big improvement for Broner from his last fight against Emmanuel Taylor.

Khan could really use the fight against Broner, because Khan still doesn’t have an opponent for his next fight. He was ignored by boxing’s two biggest stars Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao after he tried hard to get fights against them.

Khan was waiting around for a long time hoping that he’d be able to slide in and get one of them if they failed to negotiate a fight between themselves, but unfortunately for Khan they were able to setup a fight for May 2nd. That leaves Khan in the cold, needing an opponent. He’s recently taken to calling out WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto, who also hasn’t shown any interest in fighting Khan.

Broner would be a really dangerous fight for Khan because of his power, accurate punching and his excellent defense. I could see Khan losing that fight by knockout if it goes down. Khan says he wants the fight but I’m not so certain that he really wants that fight due to the danger.

If Khan loses to Broner, then he can pretty much permanently forget about getting either Mayweather or Pacquiao to fight him. But at the same time unless Khan beats Broner or someone as well-known as him, I don’t see him getting a fight against the Mayweathers or Pacquiaos.

 

[heyzel]

Khan congratulates Kell Brook on “easy work” win over Jo Jo Dan
date March 28th, 2015 | Post Comment - 12 Comments

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brook54By Scott Gilfoid: While IBF welterweight champion Kell Brook (34-0, 23 KOs) was making a big deal about his 4th round stoppage win over #1 IBF challenger Jo Jo Dan (34-3, 18 KOs) tonight at the Motorpoint Arena in Sheffield, Amir Khan called it “easy work” for Brook, which was a backhand compliment.

Khan knows what a lot of boxing fans know about the Brook-Dan fight, and that was it was a mismatch from the moment the contracts were signed. The IBF, with their upside down rankings, had Jo Jo Dan ranked #1 instead of #15. They even had Dan ranked above Khan, Tim Bradley, Diego Chaves and Devon Alexander, despite the fact that Dan had been beaten twice by Selcuk Aydin not long ago.

It was truly an upside down ranking, and for that reason it really wasn’t a big deal that Brook was able to defeat Dan. Brook merely did what anyone in the top 15 would have done had they been in the ring with the light hitting Dan.

”Well done, Kell! Nice to see you back in the ring #EasyWork,” Khan said on his twitter.

Brook and his promoter Eddie Hearn made it clear after the fight that they want the Khan fight in the worst way, as both fighters called him out. However, Khan has already said that he won’t fight Brook until he starts fighting and beating big names.

Unfortunately I don’t think you can call Jo Jo Dan a big name. Brook might as well have fought Jo Jo Dan’s conqueror Selcuk Aydin rather than Dan, because at least he’d have faced the guy that twice beat Dan.

Dan isn’t a big name, and neither is Aydin. But if Brook is going to face the lower level guys, then he really doesn’t have any business trying to get a fight against Khan. He’s still too far away from having earned the fight.

To get the Khan fight, Brook needs to fight Keith Thurman, Tim Bradley, Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse and Marcos Maidana. Fighting the soon to be 42-year-old Juan Manuel Marquez doesn’t count due to Marquez being too old and too past it.

Brook put Dan down on the canvas four times in the fight with two knockdowns coming in the 2nd and another two in the 4th. At least two of the knockdowns in the fight were questionable though. Brook knocked Dan down for the first time in the 2nd round after wrapping his left arm around his neck and then holding him with the arm while nailing him with a right uppercut to the head.

This occurred directly in front of the referee Earl Brown, who counted the knockdown as being legit rather than waiving it off. In the 4th, Dan tripped over Brook’s leg, causing Dan to fall on the canvas for the third knockdown of the fight.

The other knockdowns in the fight were legitimate. Brook knocked Dan down in the 2nd round with an overhand right to the head. It was more of a balance thing rather than Dan being hurt. In the 4th, Brook hit Dan with a left hook while he was trying to duck away from the action.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Oh yeah, FNF ends in May as Haymon inked a deal with ESPN. I called it.

You give Haymon 3-5 years and boxing will be totally different from today it isn't even funny. And if you think these people are going to let one black man control this sport you're crazy as fuck.

Don't be surprised if the shit in boxing becomes consolidated in the 3-5.

I mentioned Friday Night Fights ending weeks ago, or months.

I've said several times I want Haymon to be successful, for the good of the sport. I've been highly critical of Haymon up to this point because he's consistently gave us shit fights over the years, and he's used strong arm tactics to get his fighters overpaid for showcase fights. Low risk high reward has always been his strategy. Bringing boxing back to regular TV and basic cable is awesome, and so far he's made several good fights. If he continues to deliver a good product, I'm all for it. That's all I want - the best fighting the best. Based on his history I have to remain skeptical. What he's shown us for years has been the opposite.

It also remains to be seen how successful this will be and what his end game is. He has investors paying big time money buying airtime on a bunch of networks. Where exactly the profits are we won't know for a while. Buying airtime with investors money is tricky stuff. The networks aren't paying a dime, it's all out of pocket (well not his pockets, his investors). Some people speculate he's going on all these networks in hopes to get a bidding war for his product, PBC Boxing, and look for a big FOX UFC type deal (millions of dollars for X amount of years). That could be an exclusive deal, or maybe not. What he's doing is ambitious and has great potential, but it also could burn a lot of bridges and hurt the sport. It's going to take time before we really know. I'm not a fan of the UFC model for boxing nor am I fan of the idea of PBC belts. I don't like the idea of one man or company having that much power over a sport either. But in the meantime, I'm looking forward to watching these cards, see how it goes and hopefully increases the sports popularity.

 

[battle619]

At first I thought PBC would be successful, but all the fights he's putting up are meaningless. And that's the intro of his cards. His fighters are C+ level fighters at best! His product is good but the first start of how meaningful PBC is to boxing is the bidding for Kovalev vs Stevenson.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

At first I thought PBC would be successful, but all the fights he's putting up are meaningless. And that's the intro of his cards. His fighters are C+ level fighters at best! His product is good but the first start of how meaningful PBC is to boxing is the bidding for Kovalev vs Stevenson.

Battle, bring it down a notch. Haymon has over 180 fighters, they aren't all C+ guys, come on. There is lot's of talent in that group. Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Peterson, Stevenson, Quillin, Jacobs, Deontay Wilder, Mares, Adrienne Boner, all these dudes are at least B level guys.

He's got a lot of young talent too like Errol Spence, Omar Figueroa Jr, Leo Santa Fag, Terrell Gausha, Prichard Colon, Marcus Browne, Rau'shee Warren, Rances Barthelemy, Javier Fortuna, etc etc etc.

 

[HERESY]

I wouldn't say Broner is a B guy but I agree with everything else.

Relax battle, goddamn it nigga stop trollin.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

No I meant Adrienne Boner is B level for women's boxing. He's clearly a C level for men's boxing. C+ on his best day.

 

[battle619]

The only guy you mentioned that is B level is Thurman. Everyone else is C+ at best. Danny Garcia is not B level. Everyone one else has dropped their titles or not even battle tested yet.

 

[naner12]

Yeah Danny Garcia, the lineal 140lb champion, who clowned Khan and beat Matthysse, has never lost and beaten other solid fighters is not a B level fighter because of a close fight with Herrera that gives nearly everyone he's ever fought a rough go of it? Or because he took a fight against Rod Salka?

If Garcia wasn't fighting under Haymon's banner you'd be saying he could beat anyone. I still can't believe or there's people that watch fights under the prism of what promotional company they're fighting for. It's probably one of the most ridiculous things I think I've seen.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

The only guy you mentioned that is B level is Thurman. Everyone else is C+ at best. Danny Garcia is not B level. Everyone one else has dropped their titles or not even battle tested yet.

I dislike Garcia as much most people do, but when he beat Matthysse, easily, I said then and there I give him props. And of course this was after KO'ing Amir Khan. He's definitely not a C level guy by any stretch of the imagination. He's proven himself. I thought he narrowly lost against Herrera but that guy gives everyone hell, beat Ruslan amongst others.

Anyways, I think you need to reevaluate your grading criteria. A class are the absolute elite - Mayweather, Pacquiao, Andre Ward, Rigondeaux, Marquez, maybe Bradley. B class are guys that are clearly above the rest, but haven't become elite yet, whether it's because they are somewhat limited and that's as good as they'll ever be or because they haven't proven themselves to be elite yet - guys like Golovkin, Thurman, Garcia, Mattysse, etc etc. C class are guys that are OK, they are average, maybe slightly better. D would obviously be below that, journeyman type fighters and F the bottom, bums and cab drivers.

I don't know how you can look at Haymon's stable of 180 fighters and say only Thurman is B class. That's simply absurd.

 

[battle619]

If it weren't for the cold war a couple years ago Guerrero would have never fought floyd and neither would have maidana. So let me guess, when will Russell defend his title at his weight next vs a mandatory? 2017?

 

[HERESY]

Smh...battle...

 

[CZAR]

Battle, bring it down a notch. Haymon has over 180 fighters, they aren't all C+ guys, come on. There is lot's of talent in that group. Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Peterson, Stevenson, Quillin, Jacobs, Deontay Wilder, Mares, Adrienne Boner, all these dudes are at least B level guys.

He's got a lot of young talent too like Errol Spence, Omar Figueroa Jr, Leo Santa Fag, Terrell Gausha, Prichard Colon, Marcus Browne, Rau'shee Warren, Rances Barthelemy, Javier Fortuna, etc etc etc.

Oh so Broner is B level now? Ok so you re off your haterism shit! Good lookin. Got Em!!

I wouldn't say Broner is a B guy but I agree with everything else.

Relax battle, goddamn it nigga stop trollin.

Hater. Trolling hater. Got Em!!

No I meant Adrienne Boner is B level for women's boxing. He's clearly a C level for men's boxing. C+ on his best day.

Welp u just let the troll take you back to his status. So never mind and i take back my above good looking. Got Em!!

 

[2-0-Sixx]

Whatever makes yourself feel better @CZAR . Regardless if Broner is C, C+ or B-, he's just not that great of a fighter. Definitely not the next Mayweather like you claimed he was. He's a retarded twat so he'll always have that going for him.

 

[CZAR]

Spoken like a tru hater! Got Em!!

 

[heyzel]

Amir Khan vs. Chris Algieri a possibility for May
date March 29th, 2015 | Post Comment - 98 Comments

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1-pac-algieri.fn_.02.500w-420x251Eddie Hearn, the promoter for IBF welterweight champion Kell Brook, says he’s hearing that former WBO light welterweight champion Chris Algieri (20-1, 8 KOs) is a name that is being mentioned for Amir Khan (30-3, 19 KOs) for his next fight.

Khan, 28, plans on fighting at the end of May. He’d been talking about wanting to fight a big name like Floyd Mayweather Jr, Manny Pacquiao or Miguel Cotto, but none of those fighters showed any interest in fighting him.

It was then thought that Khan would at least fight someone good, and someone with some power, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.

“He’s [Khan] looking for an opponent; he’s talking about Algieri. Fight Brook for five times the money and for a world title,” Hearn said via IFL TV. “We got to move on, Marquez, Rios, and Thurman. He doesn’t have to fight his mandatory for at least a year. We can pick and choose who we want to fight.”

Khan-Algieri doesn’t make sense. It’s not a big fight, and it’s one that is far below some of the other fights he can get against the likes of Keith Thurman, Brook, Marcos Maidana, Lucas Matthysse or Adrien Broner.

Algieri doesn’t have a big fan base in the U.S, so the fight doesn’t make sense at all. If Khan wants to increase his popularity enough in the U.S to get Mayweather or Pacquiao to fight him, then I don’t think Algieri is the guy he should be fighting.

Like most of the guys that Khan has fought in the last three years since being knocked out by Danny Garcia in 2012, Algieri doesn’t have any punching power to speak of. He’s coming off of a one-sided 12 round unanimous decision loss to Pacquiao last November, a fight in which Algieri was knocked down six times. It was so one-sided a fight that it was just sad to watch. No one gave Algieri any chance against Pacquiao ahead of time, and rightly so. It was just soft match-making for Pacquiao, and the fight proved to be a real stinker unless you like totally one-sided fights that lack any suspense at all.

Khan vs. Algieri might have been a decent fight had it taken place a year ago when Algieri was still unbeaten, and when Khan was still fighting at 140. But the fight doesn’t make any sense at all. If Algieri is supposed to be the guy that will get Khan a fight against Mayweather or Pacquiao, I think Khan is going in the wrong direction.

Algieri would just be another light hitting puncher for Khan. Some boxing fans believe that Khan’s management is purposefully keeping him away from big punchers in order to make sure that he doesn’t get knocked out again. Khan has already been stopped twice in his career against Breidis Prescott and Danny Garcia. Khan barely escaped the Maidana fight after getting badly wobbled in the 10th round. Some referees no doubt would have halted the fight in the 10th round of that fight due to all the staggering Khan was doing after he got nailed.

 

[heyzel]

damn the uk media is killing khan and now this lol this is what happen when your ego gets in the way


Hearn giving Khan 48 hours to agree to Kell Brook fight
date March 29th, 2015 | Post Comment - No Comments

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SHEFFIELD-BROOK-DANN18(Photo Credit: Lawrence Lustig) By Scott Gilfoid: IBF welterweight champion Kell Brook’s promoter Eddie Hearn is only giving Amir Khan just 48 hours to agree to a fight against the 28-year-old Brook otherwise there will be no chance of Khan getting the fight, which Hearn had plans on taking place on June 13th in the UK.

Hearn felt that the Khan-Brook fight would be big enough to stage in a large stadium in Britain. But Khan has already said that he has no interest in fighting Brook, because he’s not a well-known fighter in the United States of yet, and he’s still fighting lesser opposition despite the fact that Brook has been a pro for 11 years.

“If we don’t start talking for real in the next couple of days it will be too late for June 13,” Hearn said via the Dailymail.co.uk. “And I’m not expecting my phone to ring within 48 hours. They have already said that our fight will happen – but not next.”

Hearn needs to stay patient and stop whining so much about the fight. Khan already said that he’ll likely face Brook at the end of the year, or possibly next year. Khan said that Hearn needs to start matching Brook against quality fighters instead of C-level opposition like Jo Jo Dan.

Hearn and Brook obviously have a good excuse for taking the fight against Dan, because this was Brook’s first fight since being stabbed last year. Dan was also Brook’s IBF mandatory challenger, so Hearn and Brook decided to get it out of the way and use the fight as a tune-up.

The International Boxing Federation made it very, very easy for Brook to get an easy mandatory out of the way by ranking Jo Jo Dan instead of someone arguably much, much better like Tim Bradley, Shawn Porter, Diego Chaves or Fredrick Lawson. Those guys would have given Brook a lot of problems, even if Brook decided to clinch them all night long like he did in his fight against Porter last year.

I think Hearn needs to realize that it’s him and Brook who badly want the Khan fight, and not the other way around. In other words, you don’t setup ultimatums against guys with more cache than your own fighter, because it doesn’t work that way, and it only makes you look out of touch with reality.

Hearn and Brook can obviously ask politely for the Khan fight, but you’re not going to get anywhere setting up 48 hour deadlines for Khan to have to agree. I mean, you can certainly setup deadlines, but it’s kind of an empty gesture when you’re fighting guys like Jo Jo Dan, and then making a big deal out of it as if you beat someone good.

If Hearn can’t get Khan to agree to the fight in the next 48 hours, then Hearn will look to set him up with either Brandon Rios or Juan Manuel Marquez. Those guys are the names that Hearn has mentioned for Brook. Keith Thurman would be an obvious selection, but he’s recovering from a big bump on his forehead from his last fight against Robert Guerrero, and I don’t think he’ll be ready to fight by July, which is when Hearn wants Brook to fight next. I don’t think Hearn would have any interest in matching Brook against Thurman, but the injury to Thurman’s head makes it a non-starter anyway.