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another looking and sounding like a duck ggg has these boys scared out here why Istay at 154 when it's nothing but money fight at 160
Canelo says he’s staying at 154, not moving to 160!
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photo: saul alvarez james kirkland By Dan Ambrose: Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 KOs) will be fighting for the third consecutive time at a 155 pound catch-weight when he faces James Kirkland (32-1, 28 KOs) on May 9th at the Minute Maid Park in Houston, Texas.
Despite this being his third straight fight at what is technically a new 155 pound class that he’s been fighting at, Canelo is saying that he can still 154 and that he doesn’t want to move up in weight to fight at middleweight.
The middleweight division goes from 155 to 160 pounds, so Canelo has been fighting as a middleweight, not as a junior middleweight in his last two fights.
“No, I still feel comfortable and can still make the weight,” Canelo said about him staying at 154.
By staying at 154 and fighting at catch-weights of 155, it suggests that Canelo can’t make the junior middleweight weight limit anymore, because otherwise he would. Fighting at junior middleweight instead of middleweight virtually assures Canelo that he’ll frequently have a huge weight advantage over his junior middleweight and in some cases welterweight opposition. So in other words, why should Canelo move up to middleweight and fight guys his own size when he can stay at 155 and enjoy a significant weight advantage over a lot of his opponents.
I think more boxing fans would buy what Canelo says about him still being able to make the junior middleweight limit at 154 if Canelo was actually making the weight instead of fighting at his new 155 pound weight class.
Canelo makes weight at 155, but then rehydrates to the 170s, which makes him a light heavyweight. Some boxing fans don’t understand why Canelo simply doesn’t stop resisting the move up to 160, and simply move up and campaign as a middleweight.
Some fans think Canelo wants not part of fighting WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin, who Canelo would be pressured to fight once he moved up to 160. These fans think the 24-year-old Canelo is waiting out the 32-year-old Golovkin until he’s aged to the point where he can be beaten. These fans think Canelo would then finally move up to 160 and immediately challenge aged Golovkin, who by then would likely be nearing 40, and not even close to being the same fighter he once was.
Canelo’s fans believe that he shouldn’t have to fight Golovkin until he officially moves up in weight to the 160 pound division, but what Canelo’s don’t understand is that the 155 pound weight class that Canelo has carved out for himself recently is technically at middleweight. It falls in the middleweight range of 155 to 160.
So if Canelo is fighting at middleweight now for his third straight time, then why isn’t he fighting Golokvin instead of James Kirkland? Golovkin beat a fighter who knocked Kirkland out in one round in 2011 in Nobuhiro Ishida.
Canelo’s fans don’t realize that he rehydrates to basically the same weight as Golovkin does, which is why a lot of boxing fans don’t think he’s being asked a lot to agree to fight the Kazakhstan fighter. It’s not like Canelo is being asked to fight someone heavier than himself. He’s being asked to fight someone that he weighs the same as.
It’s unclear why Canelo is no longer trying to capture any of the junior middleweight titles. Canelo could have fought his last opponent Erislandy Lara for his WBA junior middleweight title last July, and captured the title after Canelo was given a controversial 12 round split decision victory.
Some fans think the reason why Canelo isn’t showing interest in winning any of the junior middleweight titles is because he would then be in a position where he’d be pressured or would be forced to fight the Charlo brothers or someone like Demetrius Andrade, and those guys are tall and are excellent boxers.
To be sure, Canelo would have a tough time beating the Charlo brothers and Andrade. But by not winning any of the junior middleweight titles, Canelo is free from having to fight those guys.
If Canelo moves up to middleweight, he’ll be pressured big time to fight Golovkin, and that’s a fight that Canelo doesn’t seem to be in a hurry to take. He wants the 5’7”, 34-year-old Miguel Cotto, but he doesn’t seem like he’s really interested at all in fighting Golovkin.
I don’t know why Canelo doesn’t come out admit that he’s already fighting at middleweight given that he’s fighting at 155. That seems to me that Canelo is now a middleweight and not a junior middleweight. It is strange how he keeps saying he’s a junior middleweight when he’s fighting at middleweight. If he can stay at 154, then why is he fighting at 155 now for the third straight fight? It doesn’t make any sense.
The casual boxing fans don’t seem to mind that Canelo isn’t fighting Golovkin, or that he’s fighting in his own weight class at 155. In that case, it makes sense for Canelo’s promoters at Golden Boy Promotions to put him in with a rusty and arguably no longer relevant fighter like Kirkland rather than someone with a good chance of beating him in Golovkin, Andrade and the Charlo brothers.
If the casual fans don’t know who Canelo is fighting due to them not knowing much about the sport and the different fighters, it makes sense for Golden Boy to match Canelo against guys like Kirkland and Alfredo Angulo instead of Golovkin, Andrade and the Charlo Brothers.
Canelo says he’s staying at 154, not moving to 160!
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photo: saul alvarez james kirkland By Dan Ambrose: Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 KOs) will be fighting for the third consecutive time at a 155 pound catch-weight when he faces James Kirkland (32-1, 28 KOs) on May 9th at the Minute Maid Park in Houston, Texas.
Despite this being his third straight fight at what is technically a new 155 pound class that he’s been fighting at, Canelo is saying that he can still 154 and that he doesn’t want to move up in weight to fight at middleweight.
The middleweight division goes from 155 to 160 pounds, so Canelo has been fighting as a middleweight, not as a junior middleweight in his last two fights.
“No, I still feel comfortable and can still make the weight,” Canelo said about him staying at 154.
By staying at 154 and fighting at catch-weights of 155, it suggests that Canelo can’t make the junior middleweight weight limit anymore, because otherwise he would. Fighting at junior middleweight instead of middleweight virtually assures Canelo that he’ll frequently have a huge weight advantage over his junior middleweight and in some cases welterweight opposition. So in other words, why should Canelo move up to middleweight and fight guys his own size when he can stay at 155 and enjoy a significant weight advantage over a lot of his opponents.
I think more boxing fans would buy what Canelo says about him still being able to make the junior middleweight limit at 154 if Canelo was actually making the weight instead of fighting at his new 155 pound weight class.
Canelo makes weight at 155, but then rehydrates to the 170s, which makes him a light heavyweight. Some boxing fans don’t understand why Canelo simply doesn’t stop resisting the move up to 160, and simply move up and campaign as a middleweight.
Some fans think Canelo wants not part of fighting WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin, who Canelo would be pressured to fight once he moved up to 160. These fans think the 24-year-old Canelo is waiting out the 32-year-old Golovkin until he’s aged to the point where he can be beaten. These fans think Canelo would then finally move up to 160 and immediately challenge aged Golovkin, who by then would likely be nearing 40, and not even close to being the same fighter he once was.
Canelo’s fans believe that he shouldn’t have to fight Golovkin until he officially moves up in weight to the 160 pound division, but what Canelo’s don’t understand is that the 155 pound weight class that Canelo has carved out for himself recently is technically at middleweight. It falls in the middleweight range of 155 to 160.
So if Canelo is fighting at middleweight now for his third straight time, then why isn’t he fighting Golokvin instead of James Kirkland? Golovkin beat a fighter who knocked Kirkland out in one round in 2011 in Nobuhiro Ishida.
Canelo’s fans don’t realize that he rehydrates to basically the same weight as Golovkin does, which is why a lot of boxing fans don’t think he’s being asked a lot to agree to fight the Kazakhstan fighter. It’s not like Canelo is being asked to fight someone heavier than himself. He’s being asked to fight someone that he weighs the same as.
It’s unclear why Canelo is no longer trying to capture any of the junior middleweight titles. Canelo could have fought his last opponent Erislandy Lara for his WBA junior middleweight title last July, and captured the title after Canelo was given a controversial 12 round split decision victory.
Some fans think the reason why Canelo isn’t showing interest in winning any of the junior middleweight titles is because he would then be in a position where he’d be pressured or would be forced to fight the Charlo brothers or someone like Demetrius Andrade, and those guys are tall and are excellent boxers.
To be sure, Canelo would have a tough time beating the Charlo brothers and Andrade. But by not winning any of the junior middleweight titles, Canelo is free from having to fight those guys.
If Canelo moves up to middleweight, he’ll be pressured big time to fight Golovkin, and that’s a fight that Canelo doesn’t seem to be in a hurry to take. He wants the 5’7”, 34-year-old Miguel Cotto, but he doesn’t seem like he’s really interested at all in fighting Golovkin.
I don’t know why Canelo doesn’t come out admit that he’s already fighting at middleweight given that he’s fighting at 155. That seems to me that Canelo is now a middleweight and not a junior middleweight. It is strange how he keeps saying he’s a junior middleweight when he’s fighting at middleweight. If he can stay at 154, then why is he fighting at 155 now for the third straight fight? It doesn’t make any sense.
The casual boxing fans don’t seem to mind that Canelo isn’t fighting Golovkin, or that he’s fighting in his own weight class at 155. In that case, it makes sense for Canelo’s promoters at Golden Boy Promotions to put him in with a rusty and arguably no longer relevant fighter like Kirkland rather than someone with a good chance of beating him in Golovkin, Andrade and the Charlo brothers.
If the casual fans don’t know who Canelo is fighting due to them not knowing much about the sport and the different fighters, it makes sense for Golden Boy to match Canelo against guys like Kirkland and Alfredo Angulo instead of Golovkin, Andrade and the Charlo Brothers.
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Canelo staying at his "Nelo-weight" class of 155, Smh.
There was another guy today, Andrade, that said he's not going to fight Golovkin anytime soon either. He said and I quote, "Let me fight W, X, Y and Z fighters first, and when it's a mega PPV fight like Mayweather vs Pacquiao then we can fight". Lol. I don't hold that against Andrade myself, because he should make a name for himself first, but he's one of the guys who's often tossed around when people say Golovkin should fight so and so. I mean it's reached a point where guys flat out are saying they won't fight Golovkin unless it's for Mayweather money. And it was also shown today that Golovkins people have reached out to ANDRE WARD about a potential fight later this year, and Ward's people said sometime in 2016 the EARLIEST and they'll be ready for Golovkin. So
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and the likes who criticize Golovkin for his opponents, hopefully this shows you guys it's not Golovkin, he's doing what he can, no one else is stepping up.
There was another guy today, Andrade, that said he's not going to fight Golovkin anytime soon either. He said and I quote, "Let me fight W, X, Y and Z fighters first, and when it's a mega PPV fight like Mayweather vs Pacquiao then we can fight". Lol. I don't hold that against Andrade myself, because he should make a name for himself first, but he's one of the guys who's often tossed around when people say Golovkin should fight so and so. I mean it's reached a point where guys flat out are saying they won't fight Golovkin unless it's for Mayweather money. And it was also shown today that Golovkins people have reached out to ANDRE WARD about a potential fight later this year, and Ward's people said sometime in 2016 the EARLIEST and they'll be ready for Golovkin. So
@CZAR
and the likes who criticize Golovkin for his opponents, hopefully this shows you guys it's not Golovkin, he's doing what he can, no one else is stepping up.Al Haymon Takes PBC on ESPN 12 Live Shows Annually on ESPN and ABC
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Al HaymonPBC on ESPN to Air 12 Two-hour Live Shows Annually on ESPN and ABC
ESPN will televise Premier Boxing Champions, a series created for television by Haymon Boxing, featuring top-level fights between many of boxing’s biggest names. The multi-year agreement was announced today. The first of 12 two-hour annual live Premier Boxing Champions on ESPN (PBC on ESPN) telecasts is scheduled for Saturday, July 11, at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN and ESPN Deportes.
ESPN telecasts will air live in primetime. ABC broadcasts will air on Saturday afternoon, with further details to be announced at a later date. ESPN Deportes, ESPN’s Spanish-language network, will also televise all PBC on ESPN fights as part of its Noche de Combates series.
Live coverage will also be available through WatchESPN on computers, smartphones, tablets, Amazon Fire TV and Fire TV Stick, Apple TV, Chromecast, Roku, Xbox 360 and Xbox One via an affiliated video provider. The agreement also includes worldwide rights via ESPN International.
Card details of the first PBC on ESPN telecast and subsequent shows will be announced at a later date. ESPN’s long-standing Friday Night Fights will celebrate its last show Friday, May 22 with the finals of the Boxcino 2015 tournament.
“ESPN has a long history of carrying world-class boxing events and the new Premier Boxing Champions series continues our commitment to the sport with premier-level primetime fights previously only available on premium cable networks,” said John Skipper, ESPN president.
PBC on ESPN telecasts will be produced by ESPN. Blow-by-blow commentator Joe Tessitore and analyst Teddy Atlas, both recipients of the prestigious Sam Taub Award for Excellence in Broadcast Journalism presented by the Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA), will call the fights ringside on ESPN and ABC. Additional on-air commentators will be announced at a later date.
ESPN3, ESPN’s live multi-screen sports network, will present non-televised undercard bouts and PBC on ESPN weigh-ins live leading up to the fights. Stories about the fighters and the fights will also be featured on ESPN.com and on SportsCenter.
Boxing has been a staple of ESPN’s programming for nearly 35 years. ESPN began televising boxing on April 10, 1980 – the network’s first year on the air – when weekly boxing returned to television for the first time since 1964. For the past 17 years, ESPN Friday Night Fights has showcased some of the best bouts in the boxing industry and introduced fans to future stars and champions.
Haymon Boxing Management is based in Las Vegas, Nevada, and manages and advises more than 200 professional fighters.
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Al HaymonPBC on ESPN to Air 12 Two-hour Live Shows Annually on ESPN and ABC
ESPN will televise Premier Boxing Champions, a series created for television by Haymon Boxing, featuring top-level fights between many of boxing’s biggest names. The multi-year agreement was announced today. The first of 12 two-hour annual live Premier Boxing Champions on ESPN (PBC on ESPN) telecasts is scheduled for Saturday, July 11, at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN and ESPN Deportes.
ESPN telecasts will air live in primetime. ABC broadcasts will air on Saturday afternoon, with further details to be announced at a later date. ESPN Deportes, ESPN’s Spanish-language network, will also televise all PBC on ESPN fights as part of its Noche de Combates series.
Live coverage will also be available through WatchESPN on computers, smartphones, tablets, Amazon Fire TV and Fire TV Stick, Apple TV, Chromecast, Roku, Xbox 360 and Xbox One via an affiliated video provider. The agreement also includes worldwide rights via ESPN International.
Card details of the first PBC on ESPN telecast and subsequent shows will be announced at a later date. ESPN’s long-standing Friday Night Fights will celebrate its last show Friday, May 22 with the finals of the Boxcino 2015 tournament.
“ESPN has a long history of carrying world-class boxing events and the new Premier Boxing Champions series continues our commitment to the sport with premier-level primetime fights previously only available on premium cable networks,” said John Skipper, ESPN president.
PBC on ESPN telecasts will be produced by ESPN. Blow-by-blow commentator Joe Tessitore and analyst Teddy Atlas, both recipients of the prestigious Sam Taub Award for Excellence in Broadcast Journalism presented by the Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA), will call the fights ringside on ESPN and ABC. Additional on-air commentators will be announced at a later date.
ESPN3, ESPN’s live multi-screen sports network, will present non-televised undercard bouts and PBC on ESPN weigh-ins live leading up to the fights. Stories about the fighters and the fights will also be featured on ESPN.com and on SportsCenter.
Boxing has been a staple of ESPN’s programming for nearly 35 years. ESPN began televising boxing on April 10, 1980 – the network’s first year on the air – when weekly boxing returned to television for the first time since 1964. For the past 17 years, ESPN Friday Night Fights has showcased some of the best bouts in the boxing industry and introduced fans to future stars and champions.
Haymon Boxing Management is based in Las Vegas, Nevada, and manages and advises more than 200 professional fighters.
PBC on ESPN/ABC Multi-Year Deal Set - Details Revealed
Posted by: ESPN on 3/18/2015 .
ESPN will televise Premier Boxing Champions, a series created for television by Haymon Boxing, featuring top-level fights between many of boxing’s biggest names. The multi-year agreement was announced today. The first of 12 two-hour annual live Premier Boxing Champions on ESPN (PBC on ESPN) telecasts is scheduled for Saturday, July 11, at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN and ESPN Deportes.
There will also be shows televised on ABC as part of the deal.
ESPN telecasts will air live in primetime. ABC broadcasts will air on Saturday afternoon, with further details to be announced at a later date. ESPN Deportes, ESPN’s Spanish-language network, will also televise all PBC on ESPN fights as part of its Noche de Combates series.
Live coverage will also be available through WatchESPN on computers, smartphones, tablets, Amazon Fire TV and Fire TV Stick, Apple TV, Chromecast, Roku, Xbox 360 and Xbox One via an affiliated video provider. The agreement also includes worldwide rights via ESPN International.
Card details of the first PBC on ESPN telecast and subsequent shows will be announced at a later date. ESPN’s long-standing Friday Night Fights will celebrate its last show Friday, May 22 with the finals of the Boxcino 2015 tournament.
“ESPN has a long history of carrying world-class boxing events and the new Premier Boxing Champions series continues our commitment to the sport with premier-level primetime fights previously only available on premium cable networks,” said John Skipper, ESPN president.
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ESPN3, ESPN’s live multi-screen sports network, will present non-televised undercard bouts and PBC on ESPN weigh-ins live leading up to the fights. Stories about the fighters and the fights will also be featured on ESPN.com and on SportsCenter.
Since the start of the year, Al Haymon's Haymon Boxing has secured television deals with NBC/NBC Sports, CBS/Showtime, Spike TV and Bounce TV.
All of the deals—with the exception Showtime and Bounce TV—are time buys.
Posted by: ESPN on 3/18/2015 .
ESPN will televise Premier Boxing Champions, a series created for television by Haymon Boxing, featuring top-level fights between many of boxing’s biggest names. The multi-year agreement was announced today. The first of 12 two-hour annual live Premier Boxing Champions on ESPN (PBC on ESPN) telecasts is scheduled for Saturday, July 11, at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN and ESPN Deportes.
There will also be shows televised on ABC as part of the deal.
ESPN telecasts will air live in primetime. ABC broadcasts will air on Saturday afternoon, with further details to be announced at a later date. ESPN Deportes, ESPN’s Spanish-language network, will also televise all PBC on ESPN fights as part of its Noche de Combates series.
Live coverage will also be available through WatchESPN on computers, smartphones, tablets, Amazon Fire TV and Fire TV Stick, Apple TV, Chromecast, Roku, Xbox 360 and Xbox One via an affiliated video provider. The agreement also includes worldwide rights via ESPN International.
Card details of the first PBC on ESPN telecast and subsequent shows will be announced at a later date. ESPN’s long-standing Friday Night Fights will celebrate its last show Friday, May 22 with the finals of the Boxcino 2015 tournament.
“ESPN has a long history of carrying world-class boxing events and the new Premier Boxing Champions series continues our commitment to the sport with premier-level primetime fights previously only available on premium cable networks,” said John Skipper, ESPN president.
PBC on ESPN telecasts will be produced by ESPN. Blow-by-blow commentator Joe Tessitore and analyst Teddy Atlas, both recipients of the prestigious Sam Taub Award for Excellence in Broadcast Journalism presented by the Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA), will call the fights ringside on ESPN and ABC. Additional on-air commentators will be announced at a later date.
ESPN3, ESPN’s live multi-screen sports network, will present non-televised undercard bouts and PBC on ESPN weigh-ins live leading up to the fights. Stories about the fighters and the fights will also be featured on ESPN.com and on SportsCenter.
Since the start of the year, Al Haymon's Haymon Boxing has secured television deals with NBC/NBC Sports, CBS/Showtime, Spike TV and Bounce TV.
All of the deals—with the exception Showtime and Bounce TV—are time buys.
More details from Dan Rafael:
"Haymon, who is paying ESPN $16 million to air the 24 cards, with ESPN footing the bill for the production, also holds an option for six additional cards. Haymon also has to pay the fighter purses and the other expenses related to putting on an event."
"The deal with ESPN, which will retain the worldwide rights to the fights and editorial control over the broadcast"
"While FNF had a studio portion of the show each week to cover the latest boxing news, there will not be a studio element on the PBC shows. However, Kweder said there will be time in the broadcast to go over the news of the week from the site of each card."
Premier Boxing Champions series to replace Friday Night Fights on ESPN - ESPN
He also recaps some of the other TV deals:
NBC/NBCSN: 40 shows through 2016
CBS at least eight shows this year in a multiyear deal
Spike TV: at least 33 monthly shows through 2017
Bounce TV: monthly prospect-oriented cards beginning in July on the network Haymon helped found in 2011
"Haymon, who is paying ESPN $16 million to air the 24 cards, with ESPN footing the bill for the production, also holds an option for six additional cards. Haymon also has to pay the fighter purses and the other expenses related to putting on an event."
"The deal with ESPN, which will retain the worldwide rights to the fights and editorial control over the broadcast"
"While FNF had a studio portion of the show each week to cover the latest boxing news, there will not be a studio element on the PBC shows. However, Kweder said there will be time in the broadcast to go over the news of the week from the site of each card."
Premier Boxing Champions series to replace Friday Night Fights on ESPN - ESPN
He also recaps some of the other TV deals:
NBC/NBCSN: 40 shows through 2016
CBS at least eight shows this year in a multiyear deal
Spike TV: at least 33 monthly shows through 2017
Bounce TV: monthly prospect-oriented cards beginning in July on the network Haymon helped found in 2011
Dejan Zlaticanin becomes latest to sign with Al Haymon
March 18, 2015
Earlier today lightweight Dejan Zlaticanin reached out to RingTV.com to inform us that he has signed with highly influencial adviser Al Haymon.
Zlaticanin (20-0, 13 knockouts) sprang to prominence last summer when, as an unknown, he traveled to Scotland where he surprised former two-weight world champion Ricky Burns, dropping him in the opening stages of the first round before posting a split-decision victory.
The 30-year-old Montenegro-born fighter is latest in a long line of signings by Haymon. Zlaticanin said that his first fight under the Haymon banner will be against fellow unbeaten Ivan Redkach, though no date or venue has yet been decided. That information is expected in the coming days; although the Los Angeles-based Ukrainian is pencilled in to fight on April 10 first.
Both fighters are highly ranked by the WBC: Zlaticanin No. 2 and Redkach No. 3. The projected fight would appear to be an interesting encounter between two offensive fighters and the winner would significantly advance his claims for a world title shot.
March 18, 2015
Earlier today lightweight Dejan Zlaticanin reached out to RingTV.com to inform us that he has signed with highly influencial adviser Al Haymon.
Zlaticanin (20-0, 13 knockouts) sprang to prominence last summer when, as an unknown, he traveled to Scotland where he surprised former two-weight world champion Ricky Burns, dropping him in the opening stages of the first round before posting a split-decision victory.
The 30-year-old Montenegro-born fighter is latest in a long line of signings by Haymon. Zlaticanin said that his first fight under the Haymon banner will be against fellow unbeaten Ivan Redkach, though no date or venue has yet been decided. That information is expected in the coming days; although the Los Angeles-based Ukrainian is pencilled in to fight on April 10 first.
Both fighters are highly ranked by the WBC: Zlaticanin No. 2 and Redkach No. 3. The projected fight would appear to be an interesting encounter between two offensive fighters and the winner would significantly advance his claims for a world title shot.
Pascal interested in facing Bermane Stiverne at heavyweight
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By Dan Ambrose: Following his 8th round stoppage defeat at the hands of IBF/WBA/WBO light heavyweight champion Sergey Kovalev last Saturday night, Jean Pascal (29-3-1, 17 KOs) is kicking around the idea of moving up to the heavyweight division to face former WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne (24-2-1, 21 KOs).
Pascal, 32, says he would weigh between 200-210 pounds for the fight against the 36-year-old Stiverne, which would mean that Pascal would be giving away 30 to 40 pounds against the 240lb Stiverne. That’s a significant amount of weight for anyone to be giving up in a fight, but it would be potentially worse for Pascal because he would have nothing to keep Stiverne off of him.
Stiverne’s last opponent Deontay Wilder, 6’7”, gave away around 20 pounds against Stiverne for their fight last January. Deontay weighed in at 219 pounds for that fight, but he had a five inch height and a six inch reach advantage against Stiverne. Wilder used movement and his powerful jabs to keep Stiverne from landing his big power shots.
“Yes, I hope to meet short-term Bermane Stiverne. It is no longer world champion, but it’s still a very good boxer ranked in the top 10 among heavyweights,” Pascal said via the journaldemontreal. “I have to think about all aspects of the decision because once mounted in heavy, I could not back down from light heavyweight. But I will soon be 33 years old and if I want to try the adventure, it’s time. Quebecers would like to attend this fight and for me it would be a great challenge. I could fight at 200-210 pounds without too much fat. And I would not be the first to move from light heavyweight to heavyweight.”
Pascal is kind of in a predicament right now. If he stays at light heavyweight, which has few notable fighters, he would be possibly looking at him never really winning another world title. Kovalev showed clearly that he’s the better fighter, and as long as he’s going to be around, Pascal is just going to be a contender.
Pascal can always fight WBC light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson, but that’s probably the only big fight out there for Pascal unless he wants to try and lure one of the super middleweights like Carl Froch or Andre Ward to fight him. Pascal can always fight Kovalev a second time, but it’s not a good match-up for Pascal.
At 5’10 ½”, Pascal would be giving away a lot of height and reach against the bigger heavyweights in the division. Even if Pascal were to get past Stiverne, he’d still be looking at huge size mismatches against guys like Wilder, Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko.
Those fighters would have a monstrous height and reach advantage against Pascal. In the case of Wladimir and Wilder, they would also have a big power advantage. If Pascal thought he was hit hard by Kovalev, he would likely be in shock from the kinds of power shots that Wilder and Wladimir would be hitting him with.
If Pascal moves up in weight to heavyweight, he might find it all but impossible to ever get back down to light heavyweight again. Roy Jones Jr was able to go up to heavyweight and come back down to light heavyweight, but it messed Jones up with him getting knocked out by Antonio Tarver.
Jones really hasn’t been the same since. With Pascal, he still can make money against Kovalev, Stevenson, Jurgen Braehmer, Andre Ward and Carl Froch. He obviously couldn’t get all of those fights, but he could get some of them, and he’d have a chance to beat at least one of those guys.
If Pascal moves up to the heavyweight division, I think it could end very quickly with him in that division. Pascal would move up and likely get knocked out by Stiverne in one or two rounds.
Once Pascal loses, he’d likely decide on moving back down to light heavyweight. Losing all that weight to get back down to 175 would be hard on Pascal’s body, and he could very well be a shadow of his former self.
“Evander Holyfield was cruiserweight champion before moving to heavy,” Pascal said. “There was Archie Moore and even Roy Jones Jr who made the jump. People will say that Jean Pascal is crazy, but I like challenges and I do not want to wait to be too old to get involved in the fighting.”
Holyfield moved up to heavyweight and won a world title, but he wasn’t able to hold onto his titles for very long because he was beaten by the 6’5” Riddick Bowe. Archie Moore was beaten by Muhammad Ali by a 4th round knockout. Moore didn’t find any success at heavyweight, and this was during an era of smaller heavyweights.
Moore didn’t have to go out and face a 6’7” Wilder, 6’9” Fury, or a 6’6” Wladimir Klitschko. If Pascal is only looking to get a payday fight against Stiverne or one of the world champions at heavyweight, then it’s not a bad idea for him to go up in weight.
If the money is going to be a lot more than what he’s getting at 175, then it’s a good idea for him to move up in weight. But the money would have to be more than the money he can still make if he stays at 175.
Pascal has the opportunity to make some good money against Froch, Stevenson, Braehmer, Kovalev and Ward, I don’t think he should move up in weight just for one big payday against Stiverne unless the money is crazy money where Pascal can make millions.
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By Dan Ambrose: Following his 8th round stoppage defeat at the hands of IBF/WBA/WBO light heavyweight champion Sergey Kovalev last Saturday night, Jean Pascal (29-3-1, 17 KOs) is kicking around the idea of moving up to the heavyweight division to face former WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne (24-2-1, 21 KOs).
Pascal, 32, says he would weigh between 200-210 pounds for the fight against the 36-year-old Stiverne, which would mean that Pascal would be giving away 30 to 40 pounds against the 240lb Stiverne. That’s a significant amount of weight for anyone to be giving up in a fight, but it would be potentially worse for Pascal because he would have nothing to keep Stiverne off of him.
Stiverne’s last opponent Deontay Wilder, 6’7”, gave away around 20 pounds against Stiverne for their fight last January. Deontay weighed in at 219 pounds for that fight, but he had a five inch height and a six inch reach advantage against Stiverne. Wilder used movement and his powerful jabs to keep Stiverne from landing his big power shots.
“Yes, I hope to meet short-term Bermane Stiverne. It is no longer world champion, but it’s still a very good boxer ranked in the top 10 among heavyweights,” Pascal said via the journaldemontreal. “I have to think about all aspects of the decision because once mounted in heavy, I could not back down from light heavyweight. But I will soon be 33 years old and if I want to try the adventure, it’s time. Quebecers would like to attend this fight and for me it would be a great challenge. I could fight at 200-210 pounds without too much fat. And I would not be the first to move from light heavyweight to heavyweight.”
Pascal is kind of in a predicament right now. If he stays at light heavyweight, which has few notable fighters, he would be possibly looking at him never really winning another world title. Kovalev showed clearly that he’s the better fighter, and as long as he’s going to be around, Pascal is just going to be a contender.
Pascal can always fight WBC light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson, but that’s probably the only big fight out there for Pascal unless he wants to try and lure one of the super middleweights like Carl Froch or Andre Ward to fight him. Pascal can always fight Kovalev a second time, but it’s not a good match-up for Pascal.
At 5’10 ½”, Pascal would be giving away a lot of height and reach against the bigger heavyweights in the division. Even if Pascal were to get past Stiverne, he’d still be looking at huge size mismatches against guys like Wilder, Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko.
Those fighters would have a monstrous height and reach advantage against Pascal. In the case of Wladimir and Wilder, they would also have a big power advantage. If Pascal thought he was hit hard by Kovalev, he would likely be in shock from the kinds of power shots that Wilder and Wladimir would be hitting him with.
If Pascal moves up in weight to heavyweight, he might find it all but impossible to ever get back down to light heavyweight again. Roy Jones Jr was able to go up to heavyweight and come back down to light heavyweight, but it messed Jones up with him getting knocked out by Antonio Tarver.
Jones really hasn’t been the same since. With Pascal, he still can make money against Kovalev, Stevenson, Jurgen Braehmer, Andre Ward and Carl Froch. He obviously couldn’t get all of those fights, but he could get some of them, and he’d have a chance to beat at least one of those guys.
If Pascal moves up to the heavyweight division, I think it could end very quickly with him in that division. Pascal would move up and likely get knocked out by Stiverne in one or two rounds.
Once Pascal loses, he’d likely decide on moving back down to light heavyweight. Losing all that weight to get back down to 175 would be hard on Pascal’s body, and he could very well be a shadow of his former self.
“Evander Holyfield was cruiserweight champion before moving to heavy,” Pascal said. “There was Archie Moore and even Roy Jones Jr who made the jump. People will say that Jean Pascal is crazy, but I like challenges and I do not want to wait to be too old to get involved in the fighting.”
Holyfield moved up to heavyweight and won a world title, but he wasn’t able to hold onto his titles for very long because he was beaten by the 6’5” Riddick Bowe. Archie Moore was beaten by Muhammad Ali by a 4th round knockout. Moore didn’t find any success at heavyweight, and this was during an era of smaller heavyweights.
Moore didn’t have to go out and face a 6’7” Wilder, 6’9” Fury, or a 6’6” Wladimir Klitschko. If Pascal is only looking to get a payday fight against Stiverne or one of the world champions at heavyweight, then it’s not a bad idea for him to go up in weight.
If the money is going to be a lot more than what he’s getting at 175, then it’s a good idea for him to move up in weight. But the money would have to be more than the money he can still make if he stays at 175.
Pascal has the opportunity to make some good money against Froch, Stevenson, Braehmer, Kovalev and Ward, I don’t think he should move up in weight just for one big payday against Stiverne unless the money is crazy money where Pascal can make millions.
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I have heard that Andre Ward's return opponent might be Tommy Oosthuizen... Can you confirm that?
Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:59 PM)
HBO has told me point blank they are not doing that fight, to which I said good because it rots.
Is Andre Ward lined up to fight anyone, or is he still in the business of talking about fighting one day? #wastedprime
Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:31 PM)
Roc Nation and HBO are in talks for his next fight and a contract. One possible date for his return if they can iron things out is May 30 in Oakland. But that's pretty soon. We shall see how it goes.
I have heard that Andre Ward's return opponent might be Tommy Oosthuizen... Can you confirm that?
Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:59 PM)
HBO has told me point blank they are not doing that fight, to which I said good because it rots.
Is Andre Ward lined up to fight anyone, or is he still in the business of talking about fighting one day? #wastedprime
Dan Rafael, King Fight Freak (12:31 PM)
Roc Nation and HBO are in talks for his next fight and a contract. One possible date for his return if they can iron things out is May 30 in Oakland. But that's pretty soon. We shall see how it goes.