The thing about mess is either way if you hate him or love him, he always sparks interest and always keeps people talking. He has been one of the most popular and controversial figures in Bay Area rap. He also has one of the deepest catalogs out of any rapper ever. I can't think of anyone who is as charismatic as him. Mess also knows how to laugh at himself and not take shit too serious, even when shit is bad. Some people might question his character, but everyone who does talk about mess was cool when he was breakin bread with em. From Homewrecka, JT, San Quinn. If it was really like that why didn't they say somethin back then? Just makes them look suspect. Truth is Mess tried puttin a lot of people on over the years through his albums and compilations. He is a dope fiend now, but I think mess still has somethin left in the the tank with this rap shit