MP3 FREAKS vs. REAL COLLECTORS

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i remember back in 2003-2005 when Grim had his auctions up , people even didnt know how to ripp cds lol but at this time there wasnt one auction on ebay with a mp3 flash player online. and you know what , that was fuckin exciting. that whole underground rap cd thang was gettin way too deep in that time , i was always excited bout all those dope lookin covers and mysterious unknown cds that fly out for a lot of dollas.i remember spent 51$ on a Moe-Man cd on Grims auction because i was hopin its as dope as the cover was lookin like and yea it was.
but nowadays as most ppl gettin older and more experienced bout all the rap classics , its just that we go on diggin deep but most of the stuff isnt that tight which doesnt mean evrything is wacker than the classics.theres sum real insane shit that wasnt even on ebay yet ,seriously ! sum of the hardest classics were only a few times online check cds like 1 way anc , Raw society , GAngsta PAck , Lil whit , Creep , Ice Burg and so on.so yea to get to the point.i defintily give serious old customers the whole mp3 album so they can check it out and can think about it if they wanna spend sum money on it.but on the other hand i wont give out even one mp3 song to any o those "mp3 freaks" just for gettin their daily dose, they re fuckin zombies without any function in this game.thats a waste of time plus many people payin sum big paper for special cds so i respect that they dont wanna see the mp3s online anywhere.
Suckers like you don't have love for the music you are all about profit from it like 75% of the internet that claims to be collectors. i'll DL all the mp3s in the world if they are good shit and play the fuck out of them. I do have one of the cleanest/baddest cd/tape collections in the world ''i promise you that'' and let's don't even count the hundreds of rare/unseen shit that will go unheard forever that i have.Sorry but the internet collecting is a joke.This gangsta rap was made in the hoods and should stay in the hoods of USA.If its long lost and OOP then just let it go and R.I.P. where it belongs.This shit is not like Elvis or the Beatles this is Gangsta Rap.NO ONE from USA cares about gangsta rap as far as collecting and if they have their old cds from the 90's then they rarely rarely listen to them.It's the Foreigners who collect the shit and they fucked the whole music game up because they actually have no love they just want the unheard shit which 90% of it is WEAK SHIT and not worth $1.00 in a dollar bin but they hype the shit up by looking at the covers LOL.If me and my homies sold all our shit we would get millions off of it but we aren't giving the time of day to the fake wannabe so called collectors.We bought it when released and see how the internet is so we decided to keep our sentimental properties.NO LOVE = NO SALES. USA are OG's with the music also so we don't need no Foreigners telling us shit about a cd or a tape trying to spit knowledge about it because we don't care about that old shit.We live it you Study it.Remember THAT.''IF IT WASN'T FOR INTERNET YOU FOOLS WOULDN'T HAVE/HAD ACCESS TO ANY OF IT. SO PUT THAT IN YOUR BONG AND SMOKE IT.''We can/could walk right up in all the spots right here in our hoods and buy every release known to man. I will not give the light of day for my shit to be sold to anyone who knows nothing about the reality of the music.

GO ON COLLECTORS GET TO COLLECTING GET IT! GET IT! MUAAAHAHAHAHHA

EDIT:ONE OTHER THING IS ''I WILL BANG THE SHIT OUT OF ALL AND ANY MP3 THAT IS POSSIBLE AS LONG AS IT'S GOOD SHIT. ALL I CARE ABOUT IS THE MUSIC NOT THE COVERS'' SO YOU ALL CAN GO ON WITH YOUR COLLECTING AND LIMITING YOURSELVES WITH LIMITED SHIT IF YOU WANT OG COPIES AND I'LL KEEP MY TIGHT MP3 FILES AND BANG THEM IN THE HOODS OF USA

BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW LIKE I SAID EARLIER [I do have one of the cleanest/baddest cd/tape collections in the world ''i promise you that'' and let's don't even count the hundreds of rare/unseen shit that will go unheard forever that i have.] I HAVE SPENT Hundreds of $1000'S OF DOLLARS on music here in the hood all my life while all you kids was collecting mp3's at your mommas house from her computer ''so now it's my time to collect MP3'S so keep bringing them''
 
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this is a response to Sincere's post about "Moochers" and "MP3 Freaks". i thought it would be a good idea to have a discussion about this topic because ive always wondered what everybody on here thought about MP3's being available online.
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im pretty sure there's a good handful of "MP3 Freaks" here on this site and some of them are well respected sellers/collectors (some of them even selling tape-only conversions on ebay a few years back). nobody really cant control this type of situation because there's ALWAYS going to be that one person from somewhere around the world who can post an album online. i admit i post MP3's of older albums (using imeem) on my blog but most of the time i try not to post the WHOLE album.

personally, i havent met ONE old school artist who is against the whole MP3 situation...hell, some of them do it themselves and send some of their old albums through email when asked. if it's a NEW release then thats a whole different situation. since i started my blog, ive been contacted by L.O.L. and Lil G about the MP3's ive posted on my site. they both THANKED me for posting the MP3's online and they both said that they appreciate the fact that people are still interested in their old albums.

as a seller, i agree that it fucks up the prices on some rare cds, but in some cases it might make a certain cd even more valuable. some "real collectors" might not know about a certain album until he/she listens to the MP3's online...and when the original pops up on eBay they will still spend big money on it.

as a collector, i use to get mad about it a LOOONG time ago. i mean cmon...you really cant get mad unless its an album where the artist only released 2 copies. so if youre gonna label yourself as a "collector" then you have to understand that there are "music fans" out there who dont have the same mentality of a collector but may have the same rare cds you have without even knowing that they are rare. so back to what i said earlier...if you have 1 of 100 or 1,000 or 10,000 it shouldnt even matter if MP3's pop up online, just be glad that YOU have an original copy. ALSO, as a "real collector" the price of a cd shouldnt even matter...the only things that SHOULD matter are the music on the cd, the artwork and sometimes the condition.

well, thats my thought/opinion on the whole MP3 situation.
What do the rest of you guys think about MP3's being available online? Discuss...
I've owned ever cd i have downloaded....The funny part is I contribute more via my contributions...

There are a few I'm looking for: one is called "nuclear winter" (don't know the artists name) and I'm into anything DJ Shy One.
 
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I feel pretty much the same as sincere on this issue - ever since I've showed off some of the conversion work I'm doing for my own personal collection, I've had quite a few people contact me about them, but that's not the problem. The problem is that many of the people are asking me to send them mp3s of my rips. If another DJ asks me and he has some stuff I can use for a set or project, then yea, I may do an mp3 swap, but other than that, there's not much point, imho.

I prefer originals, primarily because the quality of mp3s just isn't as good as a retail CD, cassette, or vinyl records.

On the other hand, I have some people who actually send me physical copies and want me to rip them to mp3 for them (usually just tapes or records, but I've received a few CDs too, since I scan the artwork in HQ and some people just include them with the other stuff). Since I live in a recording studio, I have all the necessary equipment to do all these things "right", and tape rips seem to go horribly wrong for many people without experience (and/or good equipment). I know a lot of the ones I do will end up on different websites, as some of the people sending stuff are doing it only to share on said sites, so that way they can trade those with others or what not. I have some people that ask me to rip everything I put up on ebay, even if it's only $2!

I feel that many mp3 collectors I've met don't really care about the music. They really love some of it, but there's no reason to have 750,000 albums archived on your hard drive if you're NOT a DJ (or even if you are a DJ). I've met people who hoard mp3s like every physical copy was burned, and they still don't even listen to half of what they download. Admittedly, I've got a few records I've never gotten around to spinning, but not a whole lot.

So I guess I'm a little in-between on the matter, since I'm somewhat of an enabler... but as far as my own personal collection and practices go, I don't share the stuff that took me years to find, unless there's significant reason to do so.
 
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Didn't they ban you, Why are you even back here? you're annoying

Orearryy sounds dumb as shit.
No i never been banned i'm new here but i have seen that Orearry in a private message that someone sent me. i guess is does sound
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i think it means ''''Oh'' Really''? but i figured i'd use it in this thread because i had to speak my mind on mp3s.COLLECT THEM all is my opinion if people are posting them ;). but keep your own million dollar collection for yourselves.thats how i do it.i'm not a mp3 collector BY FAR but have downloaded a few that looks interesting and have shared tons of my own personal collection. my collection is too DOPE for the mp3 collectors so i keep them in the tomb.like i said i have 1000's of rare cd's and tapes and spent many many many 1000's of dollars on shit but it was all in the 90's and thats why i got the DOPE SHIT. but i never considered myself as no collector because i bought them all around the release dates and bought them to listen to not to collect them LMFAO. i leave the collecting up to the kids and the foreigners that are LATE IN THE GAME or are 10-20 years behind USA in music and dresscodes.no sense in acting up over any property bEcause they say ''when you go you can't take it with ya'' BUT I CAN AND I'M TAKING ALL OF IT RIGHT TO MY Mausoleum. i could be cremated in a shoebox but all my music property will take a Mausoleum to hold it all. it will have a padlock on it and the code will be deeznutz666yomomma. ''you do the math.
 
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Well, as someone who sells mega rare local shit and who promotes artists, I generally don't do any MP3 trading - I sell albums. Sometimes I will upload samples of the CD's I sell so the buyers know what they're buying considering many have never heard of the Artists/Cd's I sell, but as far as giving away the album in MP3 format away for free - I don't do that and really don't condone it either. Now on the other hand I have sold thousands and thousands of CD's so I cannot control what others do with a cd or the audio once the purchase it from me, and quite frankly It kinda pisses me off when I sell a local mega rare and the person who buys it immediately starts sharing it. I damn well know where those MP3's came from, but there is really nothing I can do about it.

Then of course you have those who don't want to buy shit and just want to trade albums... I really don't have a problem with that if it's an older album like "Brotha Lynch - Season of the Siccness" or something like that, but when it's mega rare shit that people pay good money for it ticks me off.

Of course I'm guilty of downloading albums myself (I don't do it often), but the thing is the albums I do download I've previously owned bought and sold - so it's not like I'm stealing an album considering I've probably owned it several times over....

However the funny shit is when people download a cd that only costs like a penny on E-bay or Amazon - that is just too stupid, cheap and funky for me.

I suppose this is just my take on the whole MP3 thing....

Also, have some of you seen the MP3 lists of albums some of these MP3 hoarders have? it's amazing - they could seriously fill an entire record store with their collection if it was in disc format.

Crazy stuff.