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Just like the Boeing workers so they could vote themselves out of jobs?
Just like the Boeing workers so they could vote themselves out of jobs?
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walmart regime workers go on strike in seattle
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Blaming the workers now are we?
Btw I like going to Walmart u get shit way cheaper than anywhere else
But their employees are ignorant crack head muthafuckas and if u think people at Walmart "bust their ass" then u haven't worked a hard job in ur life. U fuckin losers complain when your working roofing jobs in July or some hard shit like that .
But their employees are ignorant crack head muthafuckas and if u think people at Walmart "bust their ass" then u haven't worked a hard job in ur life. U fuckin losers complain when your working roofing jobs in July or some hard shit like that .
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I fundamentally disagree with the concept of unions just as much as I disagree with the concept of monopolies; as unions are nothing more than a monopoly of labor. It's no different than if all the car manufactures got together and decided what they wanted to charge and what features they were willing to offer. Labor should be subject to the forces of the free market as much as any other product or service.
Not to mention the competitive landscape is global now so this bargaining and negotiating is no longer is confined between the union and the corporation. Stuff like this is literally rolling out the red carpet for Comac or even Embraer or Bombarier to take over Boeing's share of the market. Why pay $300 million for a Boeing jet when you can buy something extremely similar for less?
You can cut up a pie any way you like, but when the pie is gone it doesn't matter how big your slice is does it?
Whether or not you agree with the concept of unions, Boeing has undeniably been losing their competitive advantage as other manufactures aren't burdened by the same cost of labor.
I know people that work at Wal-mart that completely enjoy it. To each his own. As far as blaming the company... I don't know. They're a huge corporation. One of the biggest on earth. They're going to be scummy and profit driven. That's why they're so big. The government shouldn't allow them to fuck employees on over time and insurance as much as they do imo. Or give them the big tax-subsidiaries they do, or build roads to the stores like they do. But I don't see that stopping anytime soon.
if I was in this conversation 10, or even 5 years ago I would be all about fuck wal-mart and they are evil and all that. These days I don't really care. People are fucking stupid and going to do what's easiest no matter what. Wal-mart doesn't really affect my life so I don't really care. Still fuck them, but whatever. I still buy socks there sometimes.
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just like Target gets no hate. they dont pay as "good" as Wal Mart and Target dont have the double holiday time/bonus structure like Wally has. its more beneficial for the unions to organize hell for Wal Mart. Target should get more shit than Wally but they aint as big.
thats bull shit.
thats bull shit.
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didnt they strike or something last black friday? not like it did anything though. i hate target lol, its like a smaller shittier version of walmart where everything is 40% more expensive and the damn place always smells like movie theater popcorn
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People do not always have the chance of finding other jobs, like I stated before. Not only due to their lack of "talents", but also due to the lack of other jobs in the region.
Walmart actually goes in to cities and towns and sells everything so cheap till other local supermarkets etc., have to give up.
There are some people who work at Walmart because they are lazy and do not put in effort to better their own situation, but there are also people that are stuck there. Either move their families to somewhere else (often not possible due to the lack of money) or keep working there.
Walmart has the money to pay their employees better. And it would actually make the company better!
You know, I am an Atheist, but I was educated with Christian believes and morals. This kind of capitalism is the opposite of everything Jesus stood for.
Then again, it is difficult to find the perfect model. IMO social capitalism like we have it in most countries in middle/northern Europe is the closes you can get to a fair system, even though there are also differences. Talking about Germany, Education and health care are free. Unions are strong and we have strikes many times. If you do not work (doesn't matter the reason), the government will give you an apartment, money, furniture, clothes, TV, washing machine, etc., and send you to so called job centers, where they give you job offers and/or train you to make it easier for you to get a job. Only if you refuse to get a job for a certain amount of time, they will start lowering your monthly "paycheck". Still, for many of the immigrants, it is still a much better life without having to work, than it was like in their home country. Some complain it is not fair for the ones who work a low paying job and don't get much more money that the ones who don't work, and that's true, but like I said, it is difficult to have a perfect system. There will always be some people that won't follow "the rules"...
Walmart actually goes in to cities and towns and sells everything so cheap till other local supermarkets etc., have to give up.
There are some people who work at Walmart because they are lazy and do not put in effort to better their own situation, but there are also people that are stuck there. Either move their families to somewhere else (often not possible due to the lack of money) or keep working there.
Walmart has the money to pay their employees better. And it would actually make the company better!
You know, I am an Atheist, but I was educated with Christian believes and morals. This kind of capitalism is the opposite of everything Jesus stood for.
Then again, it is difficult to find the perfect model. IMO social capitalism like we have it in most countries in middle/northern Europe is the closes you can get to a fair system, even though there are also differences. Talking about Germany, Education and health care are free. Unions are strong and we have strikes many times. If you do not work (doesn't matter the reason), the government will give you an apartment, money, furniture, clothes, TV, washing machine, etc., and send you to so called job centers, where they give you job offers and/or train you to make it easier for you to get a job. Only if you refuse to get a job for a certain amount of time, they will start lowering your monthly "paycheck". Still, for many of the immigrants, it is still a much better life without having to work, than it was like in their home country. Some complain it is not fair for the ones who work a low paying job and don't get much more money that the ones who don't work, and that's true, but like I said, it is difficult to have a perfect system. There will always be some people that won't follow "the rules"...
i like winco, but theyre always in far off places. last time i went to the winco in federal way i had to take a piss and they had the cleanest public bathrooms ive ever seen. they were like almost pristine, and that place has been there forever. i bought a 5pack italian sausage, bag of french rolls, 3 green bell peppers, 2 sweet onions, 2 potatoes, cannister of red pepper flakes, package of provolone cheese, and a 2 liter of pepsi for $17. i buy all that frequently and its usually $24 - 26 at qfc and fred meyer for the exact same items.
also their meat and generic cheeses and can be weird though, you gotta check the cuts of meat to make sure its proper sometime, cant just grab a pack blindly. and their generic cheeses come in like 20lb blocks and shit. and they sell weird shit like 3% milk, lol. ive only ever seen it there. but if you had mouths to feed you just cant beat that place period
also their meat and generic cheeses and can be weird though, you gotta check the cuts of meat to make sure its proper sometime, cant just grab a pack blindly. and their generic cheeses come in like 20lb blocks and shit. and they sell weird shit like 3% milk, lol. ive only ever seen it there. but if you had mouths to feed you just cant beat that place period
I respect your opinion breh
Unfortunately we do not make the rules, we just keep the machine running & are easily replaced.
Unfortunately we do not make the rules, we just keep the machine running & are easily replaced.
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Do you know what corporations used to do to people before unions? I am certain you do not. A perfect example is the Ludlow Massacre in 1914, set forth by the Rockefellers, by force of the National Guard, where they murdered 1200 men women and children, due to the coal mining strike. This is just one example within the US of many, you really do not even want to open the can of worms of labor abuses throughout the world. Your propagandized opinion on unions shows you have no appreciation for the worker rights you do have that unions have fought for, your precious corporations never created or fought for any of them.
Weekends, All Breaks at Work, Paid Vacation, FMLA, Sick Leave, Social Security, Minimum Wage, Civil Rights Act/Title VII, Pensions, 8-Hour Work Day, Overtime Pay, Child Labor Laws, Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA), 40 Hour Work Week, Worker's Compensation, Unemployment Insurance, Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations, Employer Health Care Insurance, Collective Bargaining Rights, Wrongful Termination Law, Age Discrimination in Employment Act 1967, Whistleblower Protection Law, Employee Polygraph Protect Act, Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS), Compensation increases and Evaluations, Sexual Harassment Law, ADA, Holiday Pay, Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance, Privacy Rights, Pregnancy/Parental Leave, Military Leave, Right to Strike, Public Education for Children, Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011, Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States
Blaming unions for Detroit downfall is utter bullshit from someone who has no clue of what's really happening. Michigan is now a right to work state, meaning you can be fired without reason at anytime now, pushed by corporations. Employers no longer have to hire union only, meaning they can go lowest bid. Corporations ruined Detroit, not the unions.
*waits for smart ass hive minded tunnel vision response*
Weekends, All Breaks at Work, Paid Vacation, FMLA, Sick Leave, Social Security, Minimum Wage, Civil Rights Act/Title VII, Pensions, 8-Hour Work Day, Overtime Pay, Child Labor Laws, Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA), 40 Hour Work Week, Worker's Compensation, Unemployment Insurance, Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations, Employer Health Care Insurance, Collective Bargaining Rights, Wrongful Termination Law, Age Discrimination in Employment Act 1967, Whistleblower Protection Law, Employee Polygraph Protect Act, Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS), Compensation increases and Evaluations, Sexual Harassment Law, ADA, Holiday Pay, Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance, Privacy Rights, Pregnancy/Parental Leave, Military Leave, Right to Strike, Public Education for Children, Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011, Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States
Blaming unions for Detroit downfall is utter bullshit from someone who has no clue of what's really happening. Michigan is now a right to work state, meaning you can be fired without reason at anytime now, pushed by corporations. Employers no longer have to hire union only, meaning they can go lowest bid. Corporations ruined Detroit, not the unions.
*waits for smart ass hive minded tunnel vision response*
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Is Walmart's request of associates to help provide Thanksgiving dinner for co-workers proof of low wages? | cleveland.com
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“A decent wage is their demand—a livable wage, of all things,” said Representative George Miller (D-Calif.). The problem with companies like Wal-Mart is their “unwillingness, not their inability, to pay that wage,” he said. “They hand off the difference to taxpayers.” Miller was referring to a congressional report (PDF) released in May that calculated how much Walmart workers rely on public assistance. The study found that the 300 employees at one Supercenter in Wisconsin required some $900,000 worth of public assistance a year.
Is Walmart's request of associates to help provide Thanksgiving dinner for co-workers proof of low wages? | cleveland.com
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“A decent wage is their demand—a livable wage, of all things,” said Representative George Miller (D-Calif.). The problem with companies like Wal-Mart is their “unwillingness, not their inability, to pay that wage,” he said. “They hand off the difference to taxpayers.” Miller was referring to a congressional report (PDF) released in May that calculated how much Walmart workers rely on public assistance. The study found that the 300 employees at one Supercenter in Wisconsin required some $900,000 worth of public assistance a year.
