Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez - September 14, 2013

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Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez


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Why are you talking about things you don't know about? Golovkin offered to fight three 168 pound fighters, two were turned down (including 6'5 Ooshuizpen) nd one was rejected by HBO.

WHO has Golovkin called out that already had a fight scheduled? Also GGG is very humble he has never made a claim that anyone ducked him or talks bad about anyone.

But lets go through the list:

Sturm - GGG was mandatory for TWO years and Sturm never fought him. Later revealed Sturm paid the WBA $250,000 not to fight him.

Geale - GGG was mandatory but was stripped his title and instead fought Mundine.

Murray - has no fight, Ricky Hatton, Murray's promoter, turned down the fight stating It's too soon for Murray.

Ndam - was ordered by the wba THREE times to fight GGG and each time he was a no show for the the purse bid and lost his WBA rankings.

Quillin - prior to the Showtime / hbo fight, he rejected an offer from GGG stating he prefers to let the fight "build".

Pirog - was set to fight GGG but pulled out due to back injury (still injured to this day).

Martinez - lou dibella: "who the fuck is Golovkin?"

Chavez moved to 168 and is fighting Vera next.

Anyways, if you read my post i wad AGREEING with you that its silly Floyd should have to fight a MW since Floyd is a true welter. You missed my points entirely.
Again dickhead if everyone is ducking GGG at 160lb why don't he move his overhyped ass up to 168lb? Answer that question if you're so smart and in the know. lol..
 
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Shut that shit up. Ever heard of Duran Roy Jones? Them dudes fought outside of their natural weight class to make fights the public wanted to see. TMT didn't want any part of Pac Man when he was on top. He light weight retired then came back because he was going broke. Remember? Around the time Pac Man was fighting those elite fighters you claim Mayweather never dodged. Yet he's claiming to be the best. lol Since your such a fan. Who has he beat that wasn't smaller or out of their prime? Nobody. He has what 4 fights left? So realistically that fight with 3G won't happen. Not that it can't but it wont. He a technician, nothing entertaining about his fights anymore but the shit he talks prior. Might be the best fighter of our era but not in history. His legacy all depends on his undefeated record. Take away that 0 and his achievements are mediocre at best. Think this fight with Alvarez is the biggest risk he's took to date. Oh thats right...He didn't take shit. Shobox got his ass under contract.
Mayweather wanted no part of Manny but yet he offered him a 50/50 split in 2009 and Manny ran from random testing to fight Cottley. Then he offered Manny a carrer high payday of $40 million in 2012, but Manny cut wasn't healed and they needed to build a staduim, so again Manny ran from the fight. lol . Do you see the pattern now smart guy? Mayweather offers the fight and Manny runs from it.

By the way who the fuck is Duran Roy Jones?
 
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Hmmm...Imma take a guess here but I think Oscar and Tito had the best record for taking on the "best competition"...than anyone in the past 20 years probably that were in their primes. Some fights against fighters they both share in common but I give the edge to Tito for fighting Roy Jones and Winky Wright over Oscar's Shane Mosely and Ike Quarte. Floyd Mayweather's resume and Manny Pacquiao's pale in comparison to Tito's/ Oscars match ups. Floyd would have taken an "L" by decision at some point had he went the same rout as them...and Manny would have gotten KO'd...but the thing you are missing with Floyd's accomplishments is his consistency and the manner in which he is winning for this long a time...that in itself is equal to or better than anyone of his generation...Floyd has NEVER had a bad fight...except when he was injured against Castillio...if Floyd took a loss that doesn't wash his legacy...especially if he came back and avenged it. This late in his career to finally lose...it would probably endear him to the public like most fighters that take a L for the first time...the public loves you even more...your haters become your lovers.
I'm sorry but you can't give Oscar credit for fights he lost.

Mayweather is a 5 division champion (130-154lb) and he never fought for a vacant title he actually beat the champion to get all his belts. 3 time lineal champion 130, 135, 147, would've been 140 if Ricky Hatton was ready after he beat Gatti, but Hatton didn't want it.

All top 10 P4P fights and champions at the time Mayweather beat them.

Corrales
Castillo
Hatton
Mosley
Marquez

All champions in their division when Mayweather beat them.
Oscar
Cotto
Ortiz
Gatti
Judah
Baldomir
Hernández

By the way Mayweather might be fighting for the lineal 154lb title against Canelo.

Mayweather has a damn good resume better then Oscar and he beat all the guys infront of him unlike Oscar.
 
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By the way Mayweather might be fighting for the lineal 154lb title against Canelo.

Mayweather has a damn good resume better then Oscar and he beat all the guys infront of him unlike Oscar.
Just no. Floyds resume isn't even close to Oscar's. No way Floyd goes through that undefeated, no way (Bernard Hopkins, Whitaker, Chavez, prime Mosley, prime Trinidad, Vargas, Ike, Pacquiao, prime Sturm, Carr, Camacho, etc).
 
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I'm sorry but you can't give Oscar credit for fights he lost.

Mayweather is a 5 division champion (130-154lb) and he never fought for a vacant title he actually beat the champion to get all his belts. 3 time lineal champion 130, 135, 147, would've been 140 if Ricky Hatton was ready after he beat Gatti, but Hatton didn't want it.

All top 10 P4P fights and champions at the time Mayweather beat them.

Corrales
Castillo
Hatton
Mosley
Marquez

All champions in their division when Mayweather beat them.
Oscar
Cotto
Ortiz
Gatti
Judah
Baldomir
Hernández

By the way Mayweather might be fighting for the lineal 154lb title against Canelo.

Mayweather has a damn good resume better then Oscar and he beat all the guys infront of him unlike Oscar.
Wait wait wait wait...I said Oscar and Tito's competition was better than Floyd's...not that they had better victories than Floyd. Of coarse Floyd's reign is more impressive I said that because of his consistency, high level of performance and being unbeaten (just re-read what I posted). For Tito to have fought Roy Jones, Benard Hopkins, Oscar Dela Hoya, Fernando Vargas, William Joppy, David Ried and Winky Wright...that's a list. I left out Parnell Whitaker because Sweet Pea was so faded off that white it wasn't even funny...forgot Hector Camacho...and I just read 2-0-Sixx's comment after I posted: Oscar and Tito are like twins when it comes to competition level.
 
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Yeah man competition means everything. This is why losses don't mean much in the grand scheme of things. I'm a firm believer that the best fighters ever will lose eventually if they go through a gauntlet of fierce opposition. Floyd is GREAT, one of the best ever, but his best wins are like Corrales and Castillo, with easy fights peppered in. Some of that isn't Floyd's fault, like bigface accurately pointed out there were some guys who didn't fight floyd for their own reasons or timing was off or whatever.

Floyd is better than Oscar, but Oscar's competition level is legendary. He challenged himself to the fullest.
 

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Not to mention all the fights that Floyd DIDN'T make when fighters were in their primes. Margarito, Paul Williams, Pacquiao, Cotto. He only fought one on that list, after they were beat down severely, twice. He also could've fought Tsyzu, or stuck around and fought Hatton at his best weight at 140. He could've fought Freitas or Casamayor at 135. But he didn't. He needed to fight everyone I just mentioned to top De La Hoya's challenges in his career.

DLH was underwhelming at the elite level, but he fought basically everyone. I think a lot of people probably revere DLH more for being 39-6 than retiring 45-0 but not taking on those biggest challenges. Also not to mention, he was really competitive in every single one of his losses except the loss to Pacquiao.
 
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So now you guys would include a job that you got fired from on your resume? Your resume is a list of your achievements and skills. Basically your wins not you loses. Your resume is should not include fighters that Knocked you the fuck out Oscar and Tito including B-Hop to both of them guys resume is just dumb. Now remove Roy Jones, B-Hop, and Winky Wright from Tito resume because them all beat the living shit out of Tito and look how unimpressive it is.
 
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Mayweather wanted no part of Manny but yet he offered him a 50/50 split in 2009 and Manny ran from random testing to fight Cottley. Then he offered Manny a carrer high payday of $40 million in 2012, but Manny cut wasn't healed and they needed to build a staduim, so again Manny ran from the fight. lol . Do you see the pattern now smart guy? Mayweather offers the fight and Manny runs from it.

By the way who the fuck is Duran Roy Jones?
Mayweather wanted no part of Manny but yet he offered him a 50/50 split in 2009 and Manny ran from random testing to fight Cottley. Then he offered Manny a carrer high payday of $40 million in 2012, but Manny cut wasn't healed and they needed to build a staduim, so again Manny ran from the fight. lol . Do you see the pattern now smart guy? Mayweather offers the fight and Manny runs from it.

By the way who the fuck is Duran Roy Jones?
40 mill yes. 50/50 split? Proof please. Do your homework son. Pac Man been agreed to all terms Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Everything Mayweather Wants to Secure His Next Fight | Bleacher Report

He never tested dirty brah. Mayweather was on some sucka shit making those accusations public. Could have put his terms on a contract instead of running his mouth if he was ready. Roberto Duran and Roy Jones since your playing stupid. BTW add Pac Man to that list as well.
 
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40 mill yes. 50/50 split? Proof please. Do your homework son. Pac Man been agreed to all terms Manny Pacquiao Agrees to Everything Mayweather Wants to Secure His Next Fight | Bleacher Report

He never tested dirty brah. Mayweather was on some sucka shit making those accusations public. Could have put his terms on a contract instead of running his mouth if he was ready. Roberto Duran and Roy Jones since your playing stupid. BTW add Pac Man to that list as well.
Just stop it it's been 3 years already and Manny is just now getting randomly tested for bum bum Rios. The fact is Manny ran from the Mayweather.

The first negotiations for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight began in late 2009. On December 11, 2009, Golden Boy Promotions sent a fight contract on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter. The contract reportedly stipulated a March 13, 2010 fight date, and proposed a 50-50 financial split between the two sides.[1] Mayweather also demanded that Olympic-style drug testing be conducted by the United States Anti-Doping Agency, which would entail random blood and urine testing through the day of the fight.[2] This stipulation would prove to be a point of contention between the camps. Pacquiao refused to have any blood testing within 30 days from the fight, because he thought it would weaken him, but he was willing to have blood taken from him before the 30-day window as well as immediately after the fight.[11] Freddie Roach, on the other hand, commented that he would not allow blood to be taken from Pacquiao one week before the fight.[12][13] In an attempt to resolve their differences, the two camps went through a process of mediation before a retired judge. After the mediation process Mayweather agreed to a 14-day no blood testing window. However, Pacquiao refused and instead only agreed to a 24-day no blood testing window.[14] Consequently, on January 7, 2010, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum declared that the fight was officially off.[15] Pacquiao went on to fight Joshua Clottey on the March 13 date, while Mayweather took on Shane Mosley in May. Both won by unanimous decision.


Now shut your lying ass up Manny ran from Mayweather 50/50 and 14-day no testing cut-off.
 
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Just stop it it's been 3 years already and Manny is just now getting randomly tested for bum bum Rios. The fact is Manny ran from the Mayweather.

The first negotiations for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight began in late 2009. On December 11, 2009, Golden Boy Promotions sent a fight contract on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter. The contract reportedly stipulated a March 13, 2010 fight date, and proposed a 50-50 financial split between the two sides.[1] Mayweather also demanded that Olympic-style drug testing be conducted by the United States Anti-Doping Agency, which would entail random blood and urine testing through the day of the fight.[2] This stipulation would prove to be a point of contention between the camps. Pacquiao refused to have any blood testing within 30 days from the fight, because he thought it would weaken him, but he was willing to have blood taken from him before the 30-day window as well as immediately after the fight.[11] Freddie Roach, on the other hand, commented that he would not allow blood to be taken from Pacquiao one week before the fight.[12][13] In an attempt to resolve their differences, the two camps went through a process of mediation before a retired judge. After the mediation process Mayweather agreed to a 14-day no blood testing window. However, Pacquiao refused and instead only agreed to a 24-day no blood testing window.[14] Consequently, on January 7, 2010, Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum declared that the fight was officially off.[15] Pacquiao went on to fight Joshua Clottey on the March 13 date, while Mayweather took on Shane Mosley in May. Both won by unanimous decision.


Now shut your lying ass up Manny ran from Mayweather 50/50 and 14-day no testing cut-off.
LMFBAO!!!! HAHAAAAAA...I can't WAIT to read his comeback reply this should be funny. Will he presents facts of his own...or just completely change the coarse of the conversation lol.
 
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Canelo in 6! after that, no need to talk about Manny vs Floyd no more. Floyd was wanting to dictate when and where Manny was gonna drug test and there's no need for that when the company knows when and where to drug test. Floyd don't question how Canelo looses so much weight fast, but maybe because they are on the same diet in his gym? Manny never tested dirty and it will eventually come out if he did, but he never has. But he never did so drug testing for Manny was never a real issue. Read between the lines people
 
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Lol if Canelo wins in 6 I'll eat my shoe! Floyd is way too skilled for the ginger, no way in hell he loses.

Floyd is one of the greatest fighters in our era, period! Yes, his resume isn't littered with ATG opponents like some others like Oscar or Nard, but as mentioned prior some of that wasn't always his fault. Anyways, resume aside Its obvious he's one of the most talented fighters ever.
 
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I can't even front, I'm a little worried in the early rounds cuz of the size difference. Canelo gonna gas out after that though