Round 1: Makaveli - 7 day theory vs. Dj quik - rhythmalism
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I didn't have time to elaborate on this in the previous post so let me do it here.
A good measure of the "timelessness" of music is how much it is still being performed and listened to. Off all the hip-hop subgenres that have appeared and gone extinct over the years only three are still being made today, and in decreasing order of popularity, those are:
1. mid-90s G-Funk
3. mid-90s Memphis underground
There is also a lot of music being made that claims to be like mid-90s Eastcoast boom bap but I wouldn't classify most of it as true to the spirit of the sound.
All other styles and sounds that were popular at some point went pretty much completely extinct.
A good measure of the "timelessness" of music is how much it is still being performed and listened to. Off all the hip-hop subgenres that have appeared and gone extinct over the years only three are still being made today, and in decreasing order of popularity, those are:
1. mid-90s G-Funk
3. mid-90s Memphis underground
There is also a lot of music being made that claims to be like mid-90s Eastcoast boom bap but I wouldn't classify most of it as true to the spirit of the sound.
All other styles and sounds that were popular at some point went pretty much completely extinct.
Where is G-Funk being made today? Or for that matter, the memphis sound? The popular sound is trap type beats and shit like that. You could argue that trap beats are a somewhat off spring off both those genres, but nobody is making outright g-funk shit. And the reason is...its dated. Its not in. Its 2013, not 1993. Even the shit i consider tolerable in this day and age isnt on some g-funk shit.
G-funk was great....but its definitely left in the 90's for a reason. Again, my opinion.
As a side not, Europeans....Germans in particular...LOVE g-funk music. There used to be a ton of blogs that had old school g-funk on them. Several of those sites were by German dudes. Its pretty fascinating.
G-funk was great....but its definitely left in the 90's for a reason. Again, my opinion.
As a side not, Europeans....Germans in particular...LOVE g-funk music. There used to be a ton of blogs that had old school g-funk on them. Several of those sites were by German dudes. Its pretty fascinating.
There are a lot of G-Funk being made in Europe. And it's a lot of new artists too.
The Memphis underground sound is copied by a number of obscure artists too, not just Raider Klan.
Note that I did not said that such music is still being made in the sense of it being a dominant sound on the airwaves, the question was whether there is a community of people dedicated enough to it to keep making it and listening to it. There is quite a sizable such group of people from all over the world who listen to and make G-Funk music.
The Memphis underground sound is copied by a number of obscure artists too, not just Raider Klan.
Note that I did not said that such music is still being made in the sense of it being a dominant sound on the airwaves, the question was whether there is a community of people dedicated enough to it to keep making it and listening to it. There is quite a sizable such group of people from all over the world who listen to and make G-Funk music.
A few European kids making g-funk music and a group of goofballs in Florida making wanna-be DJ Paul beats circa 1992 does not count as "sizable". The point that i made was that the sound is dated. And it is. Its stuck in the mid 90's and thats why its not the fashionable thing to use as production anymore. The only community inside the US really using those type of beats is SD, and without Mitchy, they dont really have someone who is dominating the scene popularity wise.
Look, i get that you like that sound. Most European hip-heads do, as i pointed out. But dont let your subjective view skew the facts here: g-funk is dead. Its been dead. Its stuck in a time where hip-hop was still great and frankly, im glad its there. It NEEDS to be there. Just like hardcore east coast beats, they need to stay where they are becuase they are important to hip-hop history.
Look, i get that you like that sound. Most European hip-heads do, as i pointed out. But dont let your subjective view skew the facts here: g-funk is dead. Its been dead. Its stuck in a time where hip-hop was still great and frankly, im glad its there. It NEEDS to be there. Just like hardcore east coast beats, they need to stay where they are becuase they are important to hip-hop history.
As I said, I am well aware these are not the dominant sounds of the day. But at least someone is keeping them alive (and I am not sure you are fully aware how many G-Funk producers there are out there right now). The sound of the mid-1980s, the James Brown samples of the late 80s/early 90s, etc. are just as much part of hip-hop history as G-Funk was. But there is absolutely nobody that I am aware of making that kind of music today, i.e. it is absolutely dead, while there are quite a few people (a lot of them newcomers) making G-Funk, which is what I was referring to.
These are relatively recent and are just some examples:
These are relatively recent and are just some examples:
Rhythmalizm is a dope album but man.... Makaveli had a huge impact on peoples lives (as corny as that sounds) lol
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Breh, those are all euro dudes...they are always 20 years behind american music. All these does is cement the fact that euros love g-funk. But are they relevant in the music game? No. There are cats out there making grimey NY beats circa 1988...that doesnt mean they are relevant to anything.
And you still aren't going to convince me that there is a "sizable" amount of artists doing g-funk. For a guy who is most likely smarter than everyone combined on this site, that was a very poor attempt to prove a point.
And you still aren't going to convince me that there is a "sizable" amount of artists doing g-funk. For a guy who is most likely smarter than everyone combined on this site, that was a very poor attempt to prove a point.
