Mayweather vs Robert Guerrero May 4th [confirmed]
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He has 26 kos which means he busted quite a few grapes. Ask your boy Victor, he'll tell you about it, fam.
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WOW! I keep hearing about how people are saying Mayweather is gonna do his thing and how it's easy money and all that shit. in all honestly, i thought he was gonna do that to Cotto and he looked slower than usual and caught a lot of punches. Guerrero has two advantages, he is a lefty which Floyd is not a fan of, and Guerrero unlike cotto throws punches by the bunches. I think it's gonna be a lot closer than what people think and it might be judah vs mayweather type fight except RG with way more stamina. P.S. Judah did knock mayweather down, fuck that judge.
1. Floyd has fought soutpaw fighters before. It's trouble for his usual style of defense not trouble for him. Two different things there. He can adjust. Just ask any lefty he has fought before, and, like his uncle said, if he has so much trouble with left handed fighters why does he pick them?
2. Throwing "punches by the bunches" means you're open to being countered by one of the best, if not the best, counter punchers of our era. We know Floyd can get in and out. Can Guerrero get in and out? Can he use his hand and foot speed to control the ring, get to where he needs to etc?
3. And yes, that was a knockdown by Judah but what does that have to do with this?
4. I know Guerrero has nothing to lose so he's coming to fight and Floyd knows that as well. And I take my hat off to the man for what he did with his wife. I can tell you the name of just about every cancer treatment facility in northern california, as well as where they are, because I had to go through that with my sister. So if there is anything I have respect for it's a family man and a person that steps up to the plate when there family is down.
(BTW, I was rooting for Ortiz when he fought Floyd because I didn't like how Floyd disrespected his pops. I openly said that in these forums. However, as soon as Ortiz did that headbutt I was like nah, fuck that nigga Ortiz up. LOL.)
2. Throwing "punches by the bunches" means you're open to being countered by one of the best, if not the best, counter punchers of our era. We know Floyd can get in and out. Can Guerrero get in and out? Can he use his hand and foot speed to control the ring, get to where he needs to etc?
3. And yes, that was a knockdown by Judah but what does that have to do with this?
4. I know Guerrero has nothing to lose so he's coming to fight and Floyd knows that as well. And I take my hat off to the man for what he did with his wife. I can tell you the name of just about every cancer treatment facility in northern california, as well as where they are, because I had to go through that with my sister. So if there is anything I have respect for it's a family man and a person that steps up to the plate when there family is down.
(BTW, I was rooting for Ortiz when he fought Floyd because I didn't like how Floyd disrespected his pops. I openly said that in these forums. However, as soon as Ortiz did that headbutt I was like nah, fuck that nigga Ortiz up. LOL.)
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That physical style he used against Berto can be a problem for Floyd. Floyd doesn't like physical fights, he likes to control the pace at a distance, he's great at that. But Floyd doesn't like to get down and dirty, makes him uncomfortable. Hell, even little old Ricky Hatton was making Floyd a lil bit uncomfortable.early on. It's going to be an Interesting fight, better than a lot of people expect.
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Not enough pop? and floyd does? Practically everyone is favoring Floyd to win by decision, so there's not enough pop from Floyd either. Meaning, Guerrero is a lefty that will get physical and technical and WILL get his shots in, big time. If he doesn't then he got paid off cuz I'm expecting this to be more exiting fight. and yes, the Judah Knockdown does make a difference cuz of points cuz i think Guerrero can score a knockdown too, which can change the way a fighter fights throughout the rounds.
Follow the conversation. Floyd being knocked down by Judah was mentioned by battle. Why it was mentioned is beyond me as it has nothing to do with anything and no point was made. I then agreed that it was a knockdown. Battle then claimed Floyd didn't have any "pop" and I corrected that by stating that he had more KO's then Guerrero. However, in the spirit of not being BIAS, I said he also had more fights than Guerrero (which would mean you would have to skew the numbers and/or drop Floyds number of matches so they are equal to Guerrero.) However, I also stated that while Floyd has more fights, he also has less losses, NC's and draws.
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And lost the fights.
He's carried the power into the heavier weights? How many KO's does the man have since he moved from FW? Not many. In fact, he doesn't have ANY! Now look at Floyd and the number of KO's he's had since moving from the lower weights and you'll see it's not zero.
And then you mention Hatton. So what? Pac beat the shit out of Hatton. Pac also got knocked the fuck out and damn near retired by JMM, a man Floyd beat for 12 rounds straight. And with the exception of Berto, has Guerrero fought anyone who is worth mentioning or even comparable to Hatton? No.
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And lost the fights.
He's carried the power into the heavier weights? How many KO's does the man have since he moved from FW? Not many. In fact, he doesn't have ANY! Now look at Floyd and the number of KO's he's had since moving from the lower weights and you'll see it's not zero.
And then you mention Hatton. So what? Pac beat the shit out of Hatton. Pac also got knocked the fuck out and damn near retired by JMM, a man Floyd beat for 12 rounds straight. And with the exception of Berto, has Guerrero fought anyone who is worth mentioning or even comparable to Hatton? No.
Number of KO's can be deceiving. Joe Calzaghe retired with 32 KO's, a 70% KO ratio. Was he a big hitter? Of course not.
Floyd got some pop at 147, but I agree with Chris he was a much heavier hitter back at 135. He's obviously not feather fisted, he can hurt guys like Hatton and even hurt Mosley over a 12 round target practice on his face.
Guerrero isn't a big puncher either, probably had more of that KO power at the lower weight classes as well. But, as shown by Berto's hand made Chinese face, he has enough power at 147 to do some real damage.
As for Marquez, styles make fights of course and it didn't help Pacquiao that he fought the "hulk" version of Marquez that didn't exist a couple years ago. Like I heard someone say, Marquez went through a second puberty at the age of 39 haha.
Floyd got some pop at 147, but I agree with Chris he was a much heavier hitter back at 135. He's obviously not feather fisted, he can hurt guys like Hatton and even hurt Mosley over a 12 round target practice on his face.
Guerrero isn't a big puncher either, probably had more of that KO power at the lower weight classes as well. But, as shown by Berto's hand made Chinese face, he has enough power at 147 to do some real damage.
As for Marquez, styles make fights of course and it didn't help Pacquiao that he fought the "hulk" version of Marquez that didn't exist a couple years ago. Like I heard someone say, Marquez went through a second puberty at the age of 39 haha.
the reason i'm bringing up something from 7 years ago is that he also got caught by Cotto, which was his rescent fight. And like I said, he's gonna struggle with lefty's, so shit hasn't changed from 7 years ago til now. I said it earlier, i didn't think Cotto would do what he did to Mayweather, but he actually a southpaw that didn't adjust his stance and maybe we would have seen a different result. All I'm saying is thatfloyd will struggle with a lefty and Guerrero has pop too.
Surprisingly, Marquez has had really good power in this 2nd part of his career. By 2nd part, I mean 130+ lbs. He used to be such a sick combination puncher but he's had a high number of knockouts since after fighting Barrera.
In all honesty, I feel like it's kind of a bitch move if he doesn't fight Pacquiao again. He begged and pleaded and talked crap and made up t-shirts saying he beat Pac etc... to get a 3rd fight, it was obviously close and got a 4th, won (in a very competitive fight while it lasted) and now wants no part of a rematch supposedly?
In all honesty, I feel like it's kind of a bitch move if he doesn't fight Pacquiao again. He begged and pleaded and talked crap and made up t-shirts saying he beat Pac etc... to get a 3rd fight, it was obviously close and got a 4th, won (in a very competitive fight while it lasted) and now wants no part of a rematch supposedly?
