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Mayweather makes statement on Pacquiao settlement – Breaking News
September 25th, 2012 | Post Comment

Mayweather Pacquiao Mayweather vs. Pacquiao manny pacquiao floyd mayweather jr By Chris Williams: Earlier today, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao reached an out of court settlement in Pacquiao’s defamation lawsuit against him in Las Vegas, Nevada. Unfortunately boxing will never know what the final settlement was from Mayweather to Pacquiao, as the settlement was confidential.

As quoted by Sportsillustrated.cnn.com, Mayweather said through a mediator “wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance enhancing drugs, nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance enhancing drugs.”

The lawsuit, which was started in 2009, is now finished with this settlement.

Having this lawsuit out of the way could lead to the biggest boxing fight ever. As of now, the biggest pay per view fight was the Mayweather vs. Oscar De La Hoya fight from May 2007. That fight drew 2.4 million buys, which is an incredible number. It’s quite possible that a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao could eclipse that number, although I have my doubts that it will.

Pacquiao is a popular fighter in the U.S, but I don’t see him as in the same class as De La Hoya was. De La Hoya was a legitimate crossover star and had fans in his numbers from almost every race, including whites. A huge portion of Pacquiao’s fan base in the U.S is from the Filipino community.

To be sure, Pacquiao has got a lot of fans outside of his loyal Filipino fan base, but I don’t see Pacquiao as having the kinds of numbers of fans that De La Hoya had in the U.S. It’s a given that Pacquiao is huge in the Philippines, but I don’t see him as popular as De La Hoya was. For this reason, I don’t see a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight breaking the 2.4 million PPV record that Mayweather and De La Hoya set.

It must be a big relief for Mayweather to have the defamation lawsuit out of his hair, because it’s one less than for him to have to worry and he won’t have to keep paying lawyers to deal with this chronic headache.

Mawyeather can now focus on what’s really important by looking to get Pacquiao in the ring. But just because the fighters were able to settle the lawsuit it doesn’t mean that fight can be out together any easier. Michael Koncz, the adviser for Pacquiao, was talking about a 55 percent going to the winner and 45% going to the loser kind of deal and that’s a waste of time. Mayweather is not going to go for that, so if that’s Pacquiao, Koncz and Bob Arum’s idea of negotiating for a fight with Mayweather then they need to not even bother.

Mayweather won’t go for that deal and I don’t blame him. He’s unbeaten, he’s putting up the higher PPV numbers and he easily beat a fighter that Pacquiao arguably lost to three times in Juan Manuel Marquez. I think that proves that Mayweather deserves the much bigger slice of the pie than Pacquiao.
 
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Pointless rematch? How? I think Cotto will beat Pac at 154. A pointless rematch is Manny/Marquez 4. Marquez won all 3 fights but yet doesnt have a win to show for it. Thats called pointless. Got Em!!
because Pacquiao already destroyed cotto and cotto just lost to floyd. having it at a different weight class doesn't suddenly make it a good fight.

at least with marquez all three fights were incredibly close and we know this one will be as well.
 
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Bro your memory is real fuckin short.....

Pac agreed to 50/50.....then your boy Floyd switched it up and said he ain't doing 50/50......you should remember that because you actually started to blame Floyd that the fight wasn't happening.....

I swear you dudes find every little reason to blame Pac for this fight not happening...
Manny fans needs to stop trying to change history. 2009 Mayweather agreed to 50/50, Manny's ring size, Manny glove size and brand, Manny's $10 million every pound over 147lb on fight night, AND MANNY BACKED OUT BECAUSE OF RANDOM DRUG TESTING.

May 2012 Mayweather offered Manny $40 million which is $15 million higher then his biggest payday. MANNY SAID 50/50 OR NO FIGHT.

Now after losing to Bradley and his PPV bombed, and no one cares about Marquez vs Manny 4. So now Manny is begging for a fight with Mayweater.

But no one can answer the question of why has Manny agreed to everything ONLY AFTER HE'S ALREADY SIGNED UP TO FIGHT MARQUEZ. lol

Manny has ran from the fight two times already, and he's in no position to demand anything from Mayweather. He missed out on the big money by ducking Mayweather now he wants to cash out at the end of his career. Fuck Manny and Top Rank for playing games.
 
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because Pacquiao already destroyed cotto and cotto just lost to floyd. having it at a different weight class doesn't suddenly make it a good fight.

at least with marquez all three fights were incredibly close and we know this one will be as well.
So pointless that Manny and Top Rank begged Cotto two times to fight Manny, but only at a catch weight because Manny is too scared to fight a healthy Cotto without an advantage. Offering a guy you TKO already another catch weight fight doesn’t sound like a fighter that is too confident he can win with an advantage. But hey you’re a Manny fan and in your world random drug testing that both guys have to take is a roadblock.
 

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pac would have taken less but Floyd wanted 100% of the ppv and pay a flat rate to pac. forgot about that huh?
I'm talking about 2010 when the negotiations were serious. Pac turned the offer down and chose to fight Clottey at Cowboys stadium and then Floyd had to settle for Sugar Shane. So it looks like you forgot about that huh? Floyd even compromised by offering a 2 week cut off and they even agreed to a 50/50 split. Pacquiao was the one who backed out.... all Floyd was asking for was a drug test.

It happens all the time, as soon as Floyd loses interest in fighting, Manny always comes out and says he agrees to everything. When Floyd called Pacquiao on the phone, didn't Pacquiao say 50-50 or no fight? Now Pacquiao is wlling to settle for 55-45?
 
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because Pacquiao already destroyed cotto and cotto just lost to floyd. having it at a different weight class doesn't suddenly make it a good fight.

at least with marquez all three fights were incredibly close and we know this one will be as well.
Well like I said I think Cotto would handle him at 154 but if it doesnt happen then its a moot point. Its obvious that Pac doesnt want to see him at 154 though. Got Em!!


So pointless that Manny and Top Rank begged Cotto two times to fight Manny, but only at a catch weight because Manny is too scared to fight a healthy Cotto without an advantage. Offering a guy you TKO already another catch weight fight doesn’t sound like a fighter that is too confident he can win with an advantage. But hey you’re a Manny fan and in your world random drug testing that both guys have to take is a roadblock.
Agreed and well said. Got Em!!
 
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Alfredo Angulo vs. Raul Casarez on Mares-Moreno card on November 10th
September 26th, 2012 | Post Comment

Mares vs. Moreno Angulo Casarez anselmo moreno alfredo angulo abner mares By Dan Ambrose: Former junior middleweight contender Alfredo Angulo (20-2, 17 KO’s) will be taking an easy tune-up bout against little known middleweight Raul Casarez (19-2, 9 KO’s) on November 10th in a Showtime televised bout on the undercard of the WBC super bantamweight champion Abner Mares vs. Anselmo Moreno bout at the Staples Center, in Los Angeles, California, United States, according to RingTV.

There’s not much to get excited about with the 25-year-old Casarez. He’s been fighting pretty much exclusively 3rd tier opposition his entire career. Casarez tried stepping it up a couple of times against 2nd tier opposition in Rudy Cisneros and Michael Soberanis in the past and was beaten by both of them.

Angulo, 30, missed eight months of action due to an 8 month stint in the El Centro Detention Center in El Centro, California after Angulo had overstayed his U.S visa. Angulo was finally released last July and is looking to get his career back together after all that time off.

The last time that Angulo fought was last November in a fight where he was battered by James Kirkland in a 6th round TKO defeat. Angulo knocked Kirkland down in the 1st round but then gassed out while going for the knockout. This allowed Kirkland to come back and severely punish Angulo for the next five rounds until the fight was mercifully halted in the 6th. I don’t put the entire blame on Angulo losing that fight just because he tired out.

He looked like he was going to lose to Kirkland anyway because he didn’t have the speed to stay in there with him and he had problems in taking the heavy shots that Kirkland was nailing him with. I think it would have been the same result even if Angulo hadn’t gassed out. Kirkland just looked superior to him.

According to RingTV, Angulo will be working with the Oakland, California based Virgil Hunter to train with him instead his previous trainer Nacho Beristain. Hunter could possibly help Angulo if he can teach him some defense and figure out a way for him to learn to pace himself a little better. Angulo can’t afford to jump on anyone the way that he did against Kirkland in the 1st round, because his stamina is questionable. He should have been able to catch a second wind after a round or two, but Angulo stayed tired for the remainder of the fight and that’s unusual for a junior middleweight. I’ve seen heavyweights gas out after one round, but not a junior middleweight.

Angulo’s power is very real as well as his excellent jab. But it’s going to be hard for Hunter to be able to make any in roads with Angulo’s lack of hand speed and questionable stamina. Those could be things that will get him in trouble when he starts facing quality opposition again at some point
 
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W B C Fines Chavez Jr $10k And Ask Him To Enter Drug Rehab


Any explanation or justification that I try to give about the recent events, will be of no use. That is why I want to say that I’m totally responsible of my actions, as well as the consequences thereof. I want to apologize to all the people who felt offended by my actions. I made them, and only I should face the consequences,” Chavez Jr. wrote in response to testing postive for marijuana in the aftermath of his loss to Sergio Martinez on September 15th.

“I can say that I will come out of this, and it will help me become stronger, I will do my best to change. This begins a new stage in my career. I will train towards achieving new targets, one of which is without doubt the rematch with Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez.”

The World Boxing accepts the above message as a declaration of guilt and repentance of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, as well as the nobility which is evident in his apology to the Mexican public, and to all those who have always trusted him.

As president of the WBC, I have got in touch with the Board of Governors, and we have decided to fine him $10,000 USD. That money will be donated to an institution for children who suffer from cancer.

We also are asking Julio to attend a rehabilitation center and want official confirmation that he's so doing. THE WBC will open its doors once again to him, so he can continue his successful career when he feels he can return. The WBC won’t suspend Julio Cesar for an undefined time, because that is not going to help him. The suspension will last as long as the rehab center advises.

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. has showed his humanitarian side, by having helped his father Julio Cesar Chavez Gonzalez to enter a rehabilitation center. After his treatment we want Julio Cesar Chavez to became an example for youth.

The WBC is no court or institution that permantently punishes its athtletes. We believe in them, and we will always be in their corner. We have always done this, like in the case of Monzon and recently with Chisora. Now we want to guide a young Mexican boxer who got lost on the way, but is an idol. And we want him to recover.

The WBC recognizes and praises the outstanding good will and chivalry of Sergio Martinez and his agent by having taken a noble stand in this case.
 
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http://www.boxingsce...s-weight--57503

Now, is anyone surprised? This isn't FMJ calling Arum a liar, this is the beloved Cotto making the same allegations FMJ has about the same person in question. Precisely why I don't believe a damn word the man utters.

I posted on here recently that Cotto reported that they were never as close to having the fight done as Arum indicated. What he said was they "couldn't agree to terms." He also said he has no problem fighting Pac or FMJ in the future, as long as terms will be agreeable. I posted this info in one of the threads prior to Arum's allegations.

We all knew it was about weight (or terms) and never the $$ that Cotto had rejected. Roach was on record saying they wanted to try to get Cotto at 150 so they can beat him worse than FMJ did at 154 for nego purposes, should a fight between the two ever happens.
 
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Andre Berto to face K9 Bundrage for the IBF 154 pound title
Published September 26, 2012 | By eastside | 10 Comments

boxing news Andre Berto to face K9 Bundrage for the IBF 154 pound title(Photo credit: Naoki Fakuda/Dibella) By Joseph Herron: On November 24th, Andre Berto and Cornelius Bundrage will return to the ring in a superb match-up for K 9’s coveted IBF Junior Middleweight Championship.

With much media attention being focused on the upcoming Miguel Cotto vs. Austin Trout contest on December 1st, and the long awaited Vanes Martirosyan vs. Erislandy Lara match-up on November 10th, both fighters are anxious to make a resounding statement that would undoubtedly secure their spot among the elite of the packed 154 pound division.

Even though the title fight hasn’t officially been announced, DiBella Entertainment’s “Boxing Publicist”, Kevin Rooney Jr. (4-2, 2 KOs), claims that it will definitely take place on Thanksgiving weekend.

“It’s going to be a tremendous fight,” states the Junior Middleweight fighter. “Andre is looking to re-establish himself as one of the top fighters in boxing. He’s been cleared by the California State Athletic Commission to fight, and now he just wants get back in the ring to do what he does best.”

“Andre has stated publicly that he feels like an animal in a cage right now that desperately wants to get out. He’s looking forward to clearing his name and proving that he belongs in the big fights.”

While Kevin recognizes the dangers in fighting a big puncher like K 9 Bundrage, the astute 27 year old believes that Berto will capture the IBF Junior Middleweight title.

“K 9 is a tough fighter and he’s going to be throwing bombs for sure. I like K9. He’s a good guy and he has the personality to really sell the fight. But I just think that Berto is on a completely different level as a fighter. This fight is a great opportunity for Andre to win his second world title in another division.”

Although the venue hasn’t been confirmed, the battle for the IBF 154 pound title should be announced within the next couple of weeks.

“All we’re waiting on is the location,” insists Kevin Rooney Jr. “Right now we’re not sure if we’re going to stage the bout on the east coast or do something out west. But it will happen on November 24th and it’s going to be a tremendous fight.”

Despite gaining the golden opportunity to fight for a major world title in the Junior Middleweight division, the boxing publicist isn’t sure if Andre will elect to stay in one of the deepest divisions in boxing.

“Andre has fought higher than Welterweight in the amateurs, and he competed as a Middleweight in his first fight as a professional. But we’ll have to see how he feels during the fight. If he feels tremendous and is able to take shots in a larger division, then I’m sure he’ll decide to defend his title.”

“But if he has trouble taking K 9’s punches on fight night and doesn’t feel comfortable at 154, then we’ll have to think about making a change. But ultimately that decision will be made by his team. It really will be up to Andre and how the fight eventually plays out.”

“Regardless, this gives Andre many more options for big fight opportunities. There are so many great fights to be made in either one of those two weight divisions. I think the different options give him a better chance of asserting himself as a major player in boxing once again.”

After suffering a very serious bicep injury while preparing for the big rematch with Victor Ortiz, and subsequently testing positive for a banned substance while training for the rescheduled fight date, the former WBC Welterweight Champion will be entering the ring for the first time in 14 months on fight night.

Kevin recalls how difficult that period was for the proud Florida based fighter.

“Andre is a great guy and has always been a clean fighter. He was frustrated about the entire situation and was very sincere and forthcoming with everyone about what happened. He was upset with himself and it was a very tough time for him. But right now he’s just concentrating on the future and not so much about looking in the past.”

With all of the great 154 pound fighters clamoring for a major world title opportunity, this match-up could potentially experience some resistance among fight scribes. But a match-up between Berto and Bundrage is ultimately an exciting one which should provide the fight fans with great action throughout.

“Again, we’re in the process of finalizing the location. But I think we should be ready to announce the fight during the first week of October. November 24th will be a great night of boxing.”
 
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So pointless that Manny and Top Rank begged Cotto two times to fight Manny, but only at a catch weight because Manny is too scared to fight a healthy Cotto without an advantage. Offering a guy you TKO already another catch weight fight doesn’t sound like a fighter that is too confident he can win with an advantage. But hey you’re a Manny fan and in your world random drug testing that both guys have to take is a roadblock.
he didn't beg anyone. top rank sent contracts to marquez, cotto and bradley with Pacquiaos terms. bradley and marquez accepted and cotto rejected. there was no guarantee pac would have chose cotto. pac told marquez numerous times he was going to fight him next, even the same night he lost to bradley he was on tv saying marquez would be next if no floyd.
 

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he didn't beg anyone. top rank sent contracts to marquez, cotto and bradley with Pacquiaos terms. bradley and marquez accepted and cotto rejected. there was no guarantee pac would have chose cotto. pac told marquez numerous times he was going to fight him next, even the same night he lost to bradley he was on tv saying marquez would be next if no floyd.
I guarantee u if Cotto wouldve agreed to that usual bullshit catchweight of Manny's he wouldve easily chose him because it would be the highest PPV of the 3 fights. No one wants to see Manny/Marquez 4 and I think they are gonna be very disappointed when the numbers come back. Also if Manny wouldve agreed to fight at 154, I think the PPV numbers would be through the roof. I think that makes it a 50/50 fight. Again oh well because it aint gonna happen. Got Em!!
 
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I think you're looking into it too hard. fans don't care about weight. that's not going to determine a successful ppv or not.

at the same time marquez always brings his mexican fanbase it will do over a million buys.

Pac-Marquez IV presser:



Also, as I mentioned before it makes no sense for Pac to fight at 154, he's simply too small. If he beats Cotto at 154 then Floyd will say hey you'll have to fight me at 154. Sergio Martinez will say hey fight me at 154. Suddenly he's a 5'5 guy fighting at junior middleweight. Makes no sense.
 
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I think you're looking into it too hard. fans don't care about weight. that's not going to determine a successful ppv or not.

at the same time marquez always brings his mexican fanbase it will do over a million buys.

Pac-Marquez IV presser:



Also, as I mentioned before it makes no sense for Pac to fight at 154, he's simply too small. If he beats Cotto at 154 then Floyd will say hey you'll have to fight me at 154. Sergio Martinez will say hey fight me at 154. Suddenly he's a 5'5 guy fighting at junior middleweight. Makes no sense.
To u it makes no sense but I dont think Manny is that much smaller than Floyd. If he can fight Floyd, Margarito, Cotto etc...then he can fight 154 pound fighters also in my book. Got Em!!
 
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Manny fans needs to stop trying to change history. 2009 Mayweather agreed to 50/50, Manny's ring size, Manny glove size and brand, Manny's $10 million every pound over 147lb on fight night, AND MANNY BACKED OUT BECAUSE OF RANDOM DRUG TESTING.

May 2012 Mayweather offered Manny $40 million which is $15 million higher then his biggest payday. MANNY SAID 50/50 OR NO FIGHT.

Now after losing to Bradley and his PPV bombed, and no one cares about Marquez vs Manny 4. So now Manny is begging for a fight with Mayweater.

But no one can answer the question of why has Manny agreed to everything ONLY AFTER HE'S ALREADY SIGNED UP TO FIGHT MARQUEZ. lol

Manny has ran from the fight two times already, and he's in no position to demand anything from Mayweather. He missed out on the big money by ducking Mayweather now he wants to cash out at the end of his career. Fuck Manny and Top Rank for playing games.
Im not going to argue who is right or wrong. I think you make decent points. I have already stated BOTH of these fighters are to blame for this fight not taking place. Fact is, if the happens now or later......they BOTH are on the downslide of their careers and NO ONE will see the best Floyd vs. the best Manny......and that is the real fuckin shame in all the political boxing shit.

Also......I was just pointing out that Tony doesn't remember that last year he was blaming Floyd. Or atleast he doesn't want to remember....
 
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yep, these two are fading. manny been in some wars and floyd getting a lil worn out. he still could move but not like he used to and vice versa. i think manny suffering the most though. all floyd got to do is more tuck and roll but he got to fight more than usual ie. ortiz and cotto.
 
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To u it makes no sense but I dont think Manny is that much smaller than Floyd. If he can fight Floyd, Margarito, Cotto etc...then he can fight 154 pound fighters also in my book. Got Em!!
but floyd is bigger than manny and if they fight at 154 that's giving floyd too much of an advantage. Listen, there is no way manny is a junior middleweight. He's pushing it as it is at 147. He's more of a true junior welter fighting at welter.
 

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Also......I was just pointing out that Tony doesn't remember that last year he was blaming Floyd. Or atleast he doesn't want to remember....
Yeah I remember, and I blamed Floyd for offering Manny nothing from the PPV when boxing fans are tuning in to watch Pacquiao fight too. But that could have just been an offer, they could have negotiated more... Floyd's asking price is very high but then again he offered Manny his biggest payday (40 million straight up).

But I didn't blame Floyd back in 09 when negotiations were serious, so serious that a contract was ready to be signed by Floyd. I blamed Pacquiao because Floyd compromised by giving Pacquiao a two week cut off and agreed to everything that Pacquiao wanted (including that million dollar weight penalty), but Pacquiao turned it down and then later on says "I agree to everything, whatever he wants"... Why didn't Pacquiao say that when the contract was ready to be signed?

He used Floyd's terms to duck the fight. Because if he's agreeing to them now, he coud have easily agreed when it was time to sign the contract back in '09 when the fight deal was at 50/50 with a two week cut off for drug testing! Now he's willing to take less than 50/50 and he's willing to drug test up until the day of the fight so the fight can happen?
 
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