USIN' THE WORD "THUg"

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EDJ

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OH MAN KRAZY,
FINALLY SOMEBODY I CAN CHOP THIS SHIT UP WITH.

ALRIgHT, YOU STRESSED, "EDJ yea a lot of older cats don't really use that word, it's true that mostly younger niggaz use it."

EXACTLY, FOLLOWERS. THIS POST TUPAC NEWER PEPSI gENERATION I TELL YOU IS INTO BULLSHIT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, " But I'm sure there's some older folks that use it too, maybe not in your hood but definitely in some hoods out there you'll find some older niggaz that use it."

EXACTLY. DON'T MAKE IT RIgHT. THEY NEED TO BE LACED SO THEY CAN LACE THIS YOUNgA gENERATION IN THEY PARTS OF THEY HOOD.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Shoot a few of my homies, both younger and older even use it once in a while."

AND I WOULD BRINg THIS TOPIC UP TO SEE WHERE THEY HEAD IS AT AND WHY THEY USE IT. MATTER FACT SOAK THIS gAME AND SPIT IT AT THEY ASS. REAL WILL RECOgNIZE REAL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "But really though what's the difference between the word thug, and a "loak from the blok"?"

IF YOU WOULD SROLL BAK, I WENT IN DEPTH WITH IT. BUT I KNO0W YOU DON'T WANNA gO THRU PAgES OF ME ADDRESSIN' EVERYBODY AND THEY MAMA. I REFERENCED MYSELF A LOAK FROM THE BLOK, SOMEBODY THAT gREW UP IN THE HOOD, ON THE BLOK, AND gOT STREET SMARTS. SOMEBODY THAT WAS FROM AN ACTUAL gANg AND PUT IT DOWN, AND SUFFERED THE REPERCUSSIONS OF IT. THAT DON'T MEAN I'M OUT THERE LIKE A LIL LOAK STILL TRYIN' TO PROVE SOMETHIN' CAUSE I AIN'T gOT SHIT TO PROVE. THE gAME OF LIFE IS TO ELEVATE. THE WORD "THUg" ON THE OTHA HAND DENOTES A TEMPORARY STATE AND SITUATION. WHEN YOU BROKE AND gOT TO JAK TO EVEN KEEP YOUR HEAD ABOVE WATER AND YOU AIN'T ABOUT SHIT, BUT LIVIN' DAY TO DAY, LETTIN' THESE SQUARES DICTATE WHAT YOU ARE, THUS HAVIN' THIS SELF HATE AND A "FUK IT" ATTITUDE. SEE, THAT'S BEIN' AT THE BOTTOM, AND IF YOU THERE, AIN'T NO PRIDE OR HONOR TO THAT. IT AIN'T NO FUN TO NOT HAVE SHIT IN YOUR POCCET. BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S STATE IS TEMPORARY AND THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT US. ARE YOU gONNA PURPOSELY REMAIN THERE? BUT THEN YOU HAVE THESE NIgKAS MAKIN' MILLIONS, STILL TRYIN' TO CALL THEMSELVES ONE, AND THAT'S A FALSEHOOD. YOU ALREADY MADE IT OUT, WHAT THE FUK YOU TRYIN' TO gO BAKWARDS FOR? IF IT'S AN IMAgE AND A PORTRAYAL, THEN ALL YOU DOIN' IS BEIN' A JIgABOO, SO YOU MIgHT AS WELL PUT ON SOME TAP DANCIN' SHOES, COLOR YOUR LIPS RED, AND START TAP-DANCIN' FOR ALL THESE WHITE FOLK AND OTHAS. SEE, WHEN I'M A LOAK FROM THE BLOK, I'M STILL THE SAME MUTHA-FUKA WHETHA I MOVE OUT THE HOOD, gET RICH OR REMAIN POOR. CAUSE I'M gONNA LOAK UP REgARDLESS. SEE WHAT I'M SAYIN'? PLUS I AIN'T DEgRADIN' MYSELF LIKE THE WORD "THUg" WHICH THE SQUARE BEARS TRY TO LABEL US AS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "No matter how you twist it or turn it around, they still imply the same thing."

NO THEY DON'T. ONE DEEMS RESPECT AND IS PERMANENT. THE OTHA IS SOME BULLSHIT LABEL THAT IS PLAYED OUT AS A FAD, AND IS WHAT THESE SQUARES TRY TO LABEL US, BUT REALLY IS A TEMPORARY STATE. READ THE PREVIOUS ANSWER FOR IN DEPTH CLARIFICATION.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You could try and make up some false analogies that a thug means your a nothin ass nigga, and it's a word made up by white folks but do you really think a loak from the blok is any better?"

WHAT YOU MEAN FALSE ANALOgIES? NOTHIN' IS FAKE BUT REFERENCIN' THE WORD "THUg". ELABORATE PLEASE. A "LOAK FROM THE BLOK" IS BETTER IN LABELIN' YOURSELF CORRECTLY(DEPENDIN' WHAT HOOD YOU CLAIM AND SO FORTH), CAUSE IT'S NOT SOME TEMPORARY SHIT(LEMONADE FROM LEMONS) YOU TRY TO CLINg ON, BUT AKNOWLEDgIN' YOUR BAKgROUND AND UPBRINgIN'. THE WORD "THUg" IS USED TO BELITTLE US LIKE THE "N" WORD, EXCEPT THAT DENOTES CHARACTER, WHICH AIN'T NO RACIAL DISCREPANCY WE CAN FIgHT BAK. IF YOU ADMIT TO THAT, THEN YOU ADMIT TO BEIN WRONgED AND JUDgED BY ALL THESE SQUARES AND THERE AIN'T SHIT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "If you ask me, both terms make you look the same way in the whitemans eyes."

THE WHITEMAN DON'T KNOW WHAT A LOAK FROM THE BLOK IS. REgARDLESS, THEY LOOK DOWN ON US AND OUR CULTURE, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S AUTOMATIC FROM JUMP. NOW, IF YOU FURTHER DECIDE TO DISRESPECT YOURSELF AND VALIDATE HIS DEFINITION OF YOU BE LABELIN' YOURSELF A "THUg", THEN YOU FELL TO HIS gAME. MIgHT AS WELL LOK YOU UP AND THROW THE KEY AWAY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Callin yourself "a loak from the blok" is not gonna get you any more respect than the word thug."

FROM A REAL gANgSTA AND MUTHA-FUKAS WHO REALLY LIVED THE LIFE, YOU gONNA gET PROPPAS FOR KEEPIN ' IT REAL, AND NOT JUST TRYIN' TO FIT IN AND FOLLOW TRENDS. ANOTHA CASE OF REAL RECOgNIZE REAL.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "In the end, they still imply the same thing."

BULLSHIT. I BEg TO DIFFER. I SPOKE UP ON IT. SCROLL UP. BUT REgARDLESS, LET'S SAY YOU RIgHT. WHAT DO THEY IMPLY? WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION? WHAT THE FUK IS A "THUg".

THEN YOU STRESSED, "They may not have the exact same definition in your eyes, but there both negative words that'll make society look down on you."

HOW'S "LOAK FROM THE BLOK" NEgATIVE? MOST OF SOCIETY DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE FUK I'M TALKIN' BOUT. YOU DO, CAUSE YOU ALREADY KNOWIN'. BUT AS I SAID BEFORE, THAT TERN DEEMS RESPECT UNLIKE "THUg".

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I know your mind ain't gonna change or nothin, cause you seem very adamant about this word, but neither is anyone elses mind gonna change after hearing your opinions."

AND WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? I DONE TURNED A FEW HEADS FOR THE ONES THAT DONE CHOPPED IT UP WITH ME. I REALIZE THAT I'M gOIN AgAINST THE gRAIN, CAUSE THE gAME IS WATERED DOWN AND FULL OF FAKE SHIT, THIS BEIN' ONE OF THEM.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "The truth is, this word is ingrained in a lot of niggaz minds so I don't think they just gonna drop it suddenly after hearing your thoughts."

I AgREE. ESPECIALLY AFTER TUPACS DEATH AND THIS NEWER gENERATION FOLLOWIN' BULLSHIT. BUT A START IS A START. I ONLY WISH SOME WILL OPEN THEY EYES. BUT JUST LIKE IT CAUgHT ON, I BELIEVE THE SHIT WILL PLAY ITSELF OUT(WHICH IT SHOULD ALREADY HAD). BUT HERE'S TWO POINTS OF IT. ONE AS A WORD USED IN THE HOOD TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF, AND ONE AS TREND IN THE RAP gAME. THEY gO HAND IN HAND. IT'S TIME TO START LACIN' THIS NEWER PEPSI gENERATION, AND FILTER OUT THE FAKE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Like I said homie, for every excuse you got there's a million niggaz out there who got just as many counter-excuses to justify it."

AND I WANNA HEAR THEM. THAT WAY I CAN DEBUNK THESE NIgKAS MISPERCEPTION AND IgNORANCE. THERE AIN'T NO JUSTIFICATION FOR IT. ONLY THANg JUSTIFIED IS THE WHITEMAN'S DEFINITION AND PERCEPTION.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What makes you think your opinions hold more weight than theirs?"

CAUSE FOR ONE,
I LIVED THIS SHIT. AND I KNOW WHAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO LABEL MYSELF.

TWO,
I'M STILL gOIN' THRU BULLSHIT WITH THESE LAWS TRYIN' TO INDIgHT ME AND LABEL ME SHIT. AND I DIDN'T EVEN DO NOTHIN'. SO BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY I LOOK THRU THESE MUTHA-FUKAS gAME. ALL THEY WANT YOU TO DO IS ADMIT TO THE BULLSHIT AND MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL NEVA BE SHIT IN LIFE. FUK THAT. THE gAME OF LIFE IS TO ELEVATE.


THEN YOU STRESSED, "Not saying their right and your wrong, just asking what makes you think your take on it is any more correct than another niggaz opinion?"

SEE ABOVE. PLUS I'VE BEEN MARINATIN' ON THIS TOPIC SINCE LIKE 2000, AND SEEN SHIT THRU MY OWN EYES, ON HOW DIFFERENT FOLKS PERCEIVE US. FROM THE BITCHES MAKIN' IT TRENDY TO LABEL YOURSELF ONE, TO THESE SQUARES AND LAWS MAKIN' NEW LAWS TO COMBAT gANgS. I HAVE THIS TOPIC DOWN AS A SCIENCE. BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY I COULD gO ALL NIgHT DEBATIN' THIS SHIT. NO NIgKA HAS CAME UP WITH THIS, BUT ME. SO gO FIgURE?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Regardless I ain't supportin this word and I don't even use it,"

gLAD TO HEAR THAT. SOYOU RECOgNIZE HOW FAKE IT IS?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "but in reality if you go to the hood with this type of shit you most likely won't get the same response as here on the net."

PROBABLY NOT. BUT WITH THE MUSIC I CAN SAY MY MESSAgE AND REACH A gREATER AUDIENCE. I'M JUST gIVIN' THE HOOD FOOD FOR THOUgHT. AND BELIEVE ME, REAL WILL RECOgNIZE REAL. SPREAD THE WORD.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Don't compare siccness folks to hood niggaz."

LESSON LEARNT. I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THIS BITCH AND THAT WAS THE MISTAKE I MADE. NEXT THANg YOU KNOW, IT'S 51 MILLION ARgUMENTS WITH 51 MILLION LIL WHITE BOYS. LOL. TIL THIS DAY THAT SHIT HAUNTS ME. I WILL NEVA UNDASTAND HOW A MUSIC AND CULTURE THAT SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT US AND OUR LIFESTYLE CAN BE IN THE HANDS OF OTHAS.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I personally know a lot of cats who use it, and if you were to get at some of them about this word, they probably won't listen to a thing you say or they'll completely dismiss it."

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S UP TO YOU TO PUT THEM UP ON gAME. I CAN'T DO THIS SHIT BY MYSELF.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Anyway about that song though, what's it called and is it gonna be on the album?"

THE NAME OF THE SONg IS CALLED "LOAK FROM THE BLOK" AND NO, IT'S NOT gONNA BE ON THE ALBUM. IT'S gONNA BE ON THE COMP.(SONgS WITH ME AND NIgKAS IN MY CIRCLE WHICH IS A COLLECTION OF SONgS I DID SINCE 2001 TIL PRESENT). THE SONg FEATURES MY LIL NIgKA KEEZY(A LIL LOAK FROM THE BLOK). I HAD TO BREAK DOWN THE gAME TO HIM AND HE SOAKED IT ON UP. CAUSE HE WAS ON THAT TREND FOLLOWIN' SLANgUAgE TIL I SET HIM STRAIgHT. THE gAME HE SOAKED, HE PUT IT ON THE XND VERSE.
 
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EDJ said:
LESSON LEARNT. I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THIS BITCH AND THAT WAS THE MISTAKE I MADE. NEXT THANg YOU KNOW, IT'S 51 MILLION ARgUMENTS WITH 51 MILLION LIL WHITE BOYS. LOL. TIL THIS DAY THAT SHIT HAUNTS ME. I WILL NEVA UNDASTAND HOW A MUSIC AND CULTURE THAT SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT US AND OUR LIFESTYLE CAN BE IN THE HANDS OF OTHAS.
Just curious..why are you here???
 

EDJ

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I DON'T KNOW. TO WEED OUT SOME REAL FOLKS, NETWORK, PROMOTE. TALK SHIT AND MAKE FUN TO SOME AND CHOP IT UP WITH THE ONES THAT WANNA CHOP IT UP. AND TO KILL TIME, AND SOMETIMES VENT. I DON'T KNOW, WHY ARE YOU HERE? THIS MUSIC ORIgINATES FROM MY CULTURE. I'LL BE DAMNED IF WE AIN'T REPRESENTED AND THIS SUBCULTURE gETS MORE WATERED DOWN THAN WHAT IT ALREADY IS.
N-E MORE QUESTIONS?
 
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EDJ said:
I DON'T KNOW. TO WEED OUT SOME REAL FOLKS, NETWORK, PROMOTE. TALK SHIT AND MAKE FUN TO SOME AND CHOP IT UP WITH THE ONES THAT WANNA CHOP IT UP. AND TO KILL TIME, AND SOMETIMES VENT. I DON'T KNOW, WHY ARE YOU HERE? THIS MUSIC ORIgINATES FROM MY CULTURE. I'LL BE DAMNED IF WE AIN'T REPRESENTED AND THIS SUBCULTURE gETS MORE WATERED DOWN THAN WHAT IT ALREADY IS.
N-E MORE QUESTIONS?
Im here for the same reason...i manage an artist...

I really feel like you dont like white people...or at least generalize and steretype them all...

It seems like in your eyes...all white people are "rich and live in the suburbs"...maybe thats truw in Denver..i dont know ive never been there...but it aint like that EVERYWHERE...

Ona side note...you act like there isnt other artists on this board who dont represent "your culture"...maybe i need a better definition of "your culture"...
 

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^WHO DO YOU MANAgE? AND WHEN YOU START DOIN' THAT? AND IT AIN'T THAT I DON'T LIKE WHITE PEOPLE. I'M COO' IF YOU COO'. AND IF YOU BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS I AIN'T TOO FOND OF. AND NO NOT "ALL" WHITE PEOPLE ARE RICH AND LIVE IN THE SUBURBS. SOME ARE POOR TRAILER TRASH AND OTHAS RAISED IN THE HOOD. REgARDLESS, THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT.
AND I KNOW THERE'S ALSO OTHA ARTIST ON HERE. WHO YOU THINK I TRY TO NETWORK WITH?
 
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EDJ said:
^WHO DO YOU MANAgE? AND WHEN YOU START DOIN' THAT? AND IT AIN'T THAT I DON'T LIKE WHITE PEOPLE. I'M COO' IF YOU COO'. AND IF YOU BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS I AIN'T TOO FOND OF. AND NO NOT "ALL" WHITE PEOPLE ARE RICH AND LIVE IN THE SUBURBS. SOME ARE POOR TRAILER TRASH AND OTHAS RAISED IN THE HOOD. REgARDLESS, THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT.
AND I KNOW THERE'S ALSO OTHA ARTIST ON HERE. WHO YOU THINK I TRY TO NETWORK WITH?
Young Vicious is my artist...ive been with him for over 3 years...

I have no idea who you have interacted with on here network wise...but i hope the bode well for you and your career....in this game,its not WHAT you know...its WHO you know....and networking is the key ingredient...
 
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EDJ said:
^THAT'S THE REALEST SHIT YOU EVA SAID. RIgHT ON. SO YOU HAVE TO BOOK SHOWS AND TALK TO PROMOTERS, OR HOW DO YOU gO ABOUT MANAgIN'?
Right now..we are focusing on getting this pesky album done...its been in the works for 3 years...the kids in school across the state...so i can only record when he has breaks...his spring break is comin up in 2 weeks, and well finish his last 2 songs and we are lookin at a late May early June release...when we get em...ill be sendin free copies to artists/producers/record company owners...you fall in that category...so ill let you know...
 
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@EDJ SHIT IVE BEEN IN THA CUT SIT BACC JUST TRING TO FINISH SCHOOL AND TAKE CARE FAM THA LAST TWO YEARZ BEEN ON SOME SHIT THAT SAT AROUND MY SHOULDERS THAT I WASENT READY TA LIFT YADADIMEAN

AND THIS SITE'Z TOPICZ HAVE WENT FRUM INTERESTING TO IGNORING SO I DONT REALLY POST BOUT SHIT UNLESS I HAVE A REAL THOUGHT ON SO GEAH IM STILL HEAR MY NIG

YA BOY 1 HUNNIT
 
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MAN..I AIN'T TRIPPIN CUZZIN..YOU ARE THE TYPE OF NIGGA I LIKE CUZ WHEN YOU BELIEVE OR BELIEVE IN SOMETHING YOU RIDE IT ALL THE WAY OUT..YOU PROBABLY ARE A GOOD HOMIE & SOLID MONTBELLO REPRESENTATIVE...BUT WHAT I WAS TRYING 2 TELL YOU WAS EVERYONE HAS OPINIONS & JUST BECUZ EDJ OR TAY OR WHOEVER HAS AN OPINION IT DOESN'T MEAN THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS 2 AGREE...I WAS SUGGESTING YOU TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH & YOU PROBABLY WOULD GET A BETTER OUTCOME..IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH REAL CONTACT WITH THESE PEOPLE 2 INFLUENCE THEM..THIS IS THE INTERNET...IT'S MORE OF A NEGATIVE FORCE THAN POSITIVE(MY BELIEF)..& I ALSO FEEL YOU ARE TRYING 2 ERASE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY ETCHED IN STONE AS FAR AS THE STREETS,HIP-HOP & LIFE GO.IT IS WHAT IT IS..I WOULDN'T WANT 2 ARGUE FOR OR AGAINST SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T CREATE & HAVE NO POWER 2 DESTROY...IF IT WAS THAT EASY THEY WOULD HAVE CHURCH SERVICE ON THE SICCNESS JUST 4 THE HELL OF IT..LOL..KEEP MAKING IT HAPPEN BUT I THINK YOU HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE 2 FIGHT 4 A BETTER CAUSE THAN TRYING 2 PROVE THAT THUGGIN IS A FAD OR A FAKE REPRESENTATION...100