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May 8, 2002
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nefar559 said:
all i'm saying is whatever some of you guys say, its always
bias....you(mcleanhatch) just spit out whatever the mainstream
media feds you.
and all i am saying is whatever some of you guys say, its always bias... you (nefar559) just spit out whatever the anti-american communists media feeds you

nefar559 said:
again i ask, why doesn't the mainstream media even report a
story on the palisten side!? why is it that the media always
carries out some type of agenda?!, its not suppose to have one!
the media was on the side of the palistinians and yasser arafat. they were making him out to be a former terrorist wrongfully accused turned freedom lover who was such a great guy who would unite the Israelis and palistinians throughout the 90's. they finally figured him out tHAT HE REALLY WAS A TERRORIST. who was sponsoring suicide bombers.

back when the media and bill and hillary were on his side at camp david the Israelis offered to give up 90% of the disputed lands to create a palistinian state. yet he left the retreat mad saying that was not enough he wanted all the land.
 
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MID-E said:
Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15066

Myths of the Middle East

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© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.

But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all.

No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
nefar559 said:
once again, your punkass intervening. with bias statments.
made up of what?!??! " "1/10 of 1% " i'm lost
read the excerpt of the article that i quoted from above and you will become "unlost".

sidenote: nevermind, i dont like personal attacks even though you personally attacked me again

nefar559 said:
once again, your punkass intervening.
 
Jul 7, 2002
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Mcleanhatch said:


and all i am saying is whatever some of you guys say, its always bias... you (nefar559) just spit out whatever the anti-american communists media feeds you
what "anti-american communist media"!??!?!
what i listen to is from the people of the USA, the ones that are
forgotten by the mainstream,

your mainstreamm media would rather support corporations, and keep there income coming in, than listen to the real issues, and express unbias reporting without an agenda.




Mcleanhatch said:

the media was on the side of the palistinians and yasser arafat. they were making him out to be a former terrorist wrongfully accused turned freedom lover who was such a great guy who would unite the Israelis and palistinians throughout the 90's. they finally figured him out tHAT HE REALLY WAS A TERRORIST. who was sponsoring suicide bombers.

back when the media and bill and hillary were on his side at camp david the Israelis offered to give up 90% of the disputed lands to create a palistinian state. yet he left the retreat mad saying that was not enough he wanted all the land.
even if your bullshit is true, then it shows that your mainstream
media support an agenda......which leads to bias.
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
I was speaken about the government, not the people. I have no problem with the people of isreal, nor do I have a problem with ANY other race.
Thank you for clarifying your point. When I read your post, I thought you were attacking the Israelis as a people, not a govermental entity. Had you been doing the prior, I would stand by my Klansmen comment, but since you were attacking the government, I humbly withdraw my statement. I agree wholeheartedly that the Israeli government has a lot of flaws. Likewise, Palistinians are not the most reasonable, peace-loving people either. There needs to be a complete overhaul of Sharon and Arafat's governments.
 
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nefar559 said:


sounds like you support the killings on israels side.
Why must people ADD things. I cant just have an Oppinion?
Cause I believe what the Bible says, I Support the Killings?

Is everything you see Black or White? Come to the gray once in awhile.

PS Why get mad when someone Jumps to conclussions like you do?

nefar559 said:

how did you figure that? i never even made such an assertion, or
even some statment that favors the palistenians.
 
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I don't stand on any side.
As far as I know, the Jews occupied Isreal hundreds if not thousands of years before the Palestinians.
Archeology proves that Jews lived there before anyone else.

I can see why the Palestinians are pissed but I can't see why they target civilians.
Isreal is no angel though, they're guilty of terrorist type of crimes against the Palestinians too.
But would Isreal be doing this if the Palestians weren't attacking them in the first place?
I don't think so.
The point is, they're both in the wrong.
But at the same time, we can't deny the facts....
 
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Mook Mangla P said:


Thank you for clarifying your point. When I read your post, I thought you were attacking the Israelis as a people, not a govermental entity. Had you been doing the prior, I would stand by my Klansmen comment, but since you were attacking the government, I humbly withdraw my statement. I agree wholeheartedly that the Israeli government has a lot of flaws. Likewise, Palistinians are not the most reasonable, peace-loving people either. There needs to be a complete overhaul of Sharon and Arafat's governments.
Thank you for withdrawing your prior statement, although, I would like to point out, that by you saying "Palistinians are not the most reasonable, peace-loving people", it makes you seem guilty of what you originally accused me of.
 
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Gizmo said:


Why must people ADD things. I cant just have an Oppinion?
Cause I believe what the Bible says, I Support the Killings?

Is everything you see Black or White? Come to the gray once in awhile.

PS Why get mad when someone Jumps to conclussions like you do?


the asserstion you made was
Gizmo said:


Peace.

You know Biblicly speaking, Palistine can never win. Thats from The Christian Bible.

I believe that Too.
with that said, thats how i came to my statement.
sorry, but i should have said "do you support the killings by israel?"


black&white? how do u know thtat i view the middle east situation
as b&w, or for our discusion.

btw i wasn't mad, and you can have an opinion
 
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2-0-Sixx said:
I would like to point out, that by you saying "Palistinians are not the most reasonable, peace-loving people", it makes you seem guilty of what you originally accused me of.
Agreed.
What I was really trying to say is that both sides are pretty screwed up.
I guess I'm just kind of fed up with the whole situation over there. I mean, the Israeli army will come in and level in an entire town, which we can all agree isn't right. Then the Palestinians will go blow up a cafeteria full of students, which I'm sure we can also agree isn't right. What can we do when two peoples hate each other so much? This cycle of violence is so senseless, it's gotten to the point where nobody even knows why they hate the other side anymore.
And 2-0-Sixx, as always, you have handled yourself like a gentlemen.
 
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Mook Mangla P said:


Agreed.
What I was really trying to say is that both sides are pretty screwed up.
I guess I'm just kind of fed up with the whole situation over there. I mean, the Israeli army will come in and level in an entire town, which we can all agree isn't right. Then the Palestinians will go blow up a cafeteria full of students, which I'm sure we can also agree isn't right. What can we do when two peoples hate each other so much? This cycle of violence is so senseless, it's gotten to the point where nobody even knows why they hate the other side anymore.
And 2-0-Sixx, as always, you have handled yourself like a gentlemen.
I agree that the violence over there is horrible, and it is a difficult situation...I believe that if we want to help both sides, america needs to start listening to the palistinian people as well. The media here has been very one sided...Rarely will you ever hear/see on the news about the horrible things the isreali army has done to innocent people. Its always the opposite.
What we all have to ask ourselves is why would someone become a suicide bomber>? Nobody just wakes up and says Im going to blow myself up and others today just cuz I can. Its because the people have been oppressed for so long, thats all they know.
 
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thapro said:

Ok, so you got a few pictures of Palestinians with guns, good job. If you compare the fire power of the Palestinians and the Israeli's, I don't think there is any real comparison. Israel has one of the strongest militaries in the world, thanks in part by the U.S.

Your article has many flaws. How can it say that Jerusalem has no significant importance in Islam? Did you know that Muslims used to pray towards Jerusalem and then it was later changed to Mecca? And we don't think that Mohammed's journey was a dream, it physically happened. It is the third holiest city in Islam, that is fact.

And the thing about Palestinians not being a separate race as Arabs, yes that is true. But the fact is that they have always been there and now people have taken their land. People who had no claim to that land. When Israel was created, Jews from all over came to that land. It is like us taking the Native American's lands.

The writer of the article needs to do his research before he writes his articles.
Yes I know that muslims used to pray towards Jerusalem. lol @ mohammeds dream physically happening. But the fact is "palestinians" have not always been in Israel, Israel is promised to the Jews and recievers of Yeshua Hamashiach.
 
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MID-E said:


Yes I know that muslims used to pray towards Jerusalem. lol @ mohammeds dream physically happening. But the fact is "palestinians" have not always been in Israel, Israel is promised to the Jews and recievers of Yeshua Hamashiach.
I will have to Agree with that.

Phillistine and Palistine are the same Culture. It is in The History Books, Theology, Bibliology. So my next Question would be "Where did They live before where they are at now?".
 
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Oppression is never Justified, But where wee they when Israel Fought to Become Known as a Country in the Mid 1900's?

Why do they need that land? That is my question, do they not have a place that they came from? Or have they always been in Israel?
 

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who does america belong to?

1.i DONT believe that the majority of "jews" in israel are REAL jews (actual hebrews).

2.according to the bible the land is promised to the seed of abraham and sarai. not to the seed of abraham and hagar.

3."arab" people are the product of hebrews and egyptians. Genesis 16 will explain this.

4."ishmael" (arabs) ARE blessed by EL SHADDAI.Gen 17:20 ***but*** the COVENENT was established with isaac (israel). gen 17:21 HOWEVER A *TERM* (CONDITION) OF THIS COVENENT IS FOUND HERE:GEN 17:8

5.here is ishmael Gen 16:12. dwelling with his brothers.

6.THE COVENENT IS STATED AGAIN Gen 26:3 AND Gen 28:12-15

7.GOD TOLD THE JEWS TO DRIVE WHOEVER WAS IN THE LAND *OUT* OF THE LAND Num 33:55

8.ISRAELS ENEMY ISNT THE ARAB PLO OR OTHER ARAB NATIONS....ITS DEEPER THAN THAT.
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IN REGARDS TO THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.....THEY ARE CONTROLLED. THEY WORSHIP MONEY. THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE UP SOME LAND AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS MORE HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.

ISRAEL ***NEEDS*** TO DRAW AWAY FROM BABYLON (AMERICA). BABYLON IS SETTING ISRAEL UP.......


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America Belongs to Everyone, thats how it was Founded.

Israel has always been for Gods Chosen.
Phillistines have always been Enemies of the Israelites.
And the only Line of Gods Chosen People comes from Isaac not Ishmal, Ishmal was Cast out of the land.

Just keep in mind what was the Palistinians land before they were in Israel?

PS some one stated that Israel is Cancer in the World. I ould like that explained a little.