Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All

[$migg Cant Rap]

I lurked Odd Future Talk (their official forum) a few times and while I'm a big fan the people over there are doing waaaaaaay too much lol.

lol. from a non-fan's perspective even this thread alone has been doing way too much. but thats what makes it entertaining to read.

edit: i just found the thread where i basically made the same comment.. no doubt in some form of a blackout, because i dont remember it @ all. i think the OFWG charisma & persona outside of music is one of their biggest assets.

 

[SMCrazy]

Ya can decide for yourselves......

you got this off a JH member's youtube account

this isn't a diss more like propaganda that they use against every group who has fans that don't like Esham


n Esham has already said he likes them so lets hope he's not a hypocrite....

 

[Grapes Of Wrath]

Why is he driving an NSX?

well, i heard its cuz the NSX was Pharrell's first car...
i wondered the same thing

 

[SANDMAN]

Autographed CD anyone? :ermm::ermm::ermm:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170643298975&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

 

[2-0-Sixx]

that's actually an older esham song so it couldn't be a diss to OF.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

I liked some of Esham's older material and like I said I haven't heard the song, diss, whatever it is because I'm at work. But some older cats are starting to seem bitter like Krazee said. Anyone know what Esham's (solo) career soundscans are out of curiosty? Seeing he is from an era when people actually went out and bought cds (more or less had to if you wanted the music) I'm guessing he has to have sold quite a few units in his time.l.

This article is from 1999:


Unholy Regional Hit, Batman!
By Douglas Wolk Tuesday, Aug 10 1999

How is it possible for someone to sell over a quarter of a million records and remain all but unknown outside his home state? The Detroit rapper Esham has moved 195,000 CDs and tapes on his own and another 64,000 with his group Natas, according to Soundscan.

http://www.villagevoice.com/1999-08-10/music/unholy-regional-hit-batman/1/

 

[SMCrazy]

This article is from 1999:


Unholy Regional Hit, Batman!
By Douglas Wolk Tuesday, Aug 10 1999

How is it possible for someone to sell over a quarter of a million records and remain all but unknown outside his home state? The Detroit rapper Esham has moved 195,000 CDs and tapes on his own and another 64,000 with his group Natas, according to Soundscan.

http://www.villagevoice.com/1999-08-10/music/unholy-regional-hit-batman/1/

so from 1989-99 Esham (age 13-23) pushed 250,000 + independently from his and NATAS' whole catalog
and Tyler's (age 19-20) GOBLIN sold 50,000 + in the first week release

being black and atheist sells albums [joke]

 

[dali]

I'm kinda digging that Fran Ocean guy's record. I thought i was forever done with RnB. Friends look at me weird for bumping his shit. WTF is wrong with me lol maybe it's the good weather we having lately

 

[Nuttkase]

This article is from 1999:


Unholy Regional Hit, Batman!
By Douglas Wolk Tuesday, Aug 10 1999

How is it possible for someone to sell over a quarter of a million records and remain all but unknown outside his home state? The Detroit rapper Esham has moved 195,000 CDs and tapes on his own and another 64,000 with his group Natas, according to Soundscan.

http://www.villagevoice.com/1999-08-10/music/unholy-regional-hit-batman/1/

And he has been around since 1989? So lets double that and round up and say 600,000 for his career probably now including with Natas which is probably being generous. I honestly thought it would be quite a bit more. That song wasn't a diss but no wonder he might be a little bitter lol.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

And he has been around since 1989? So lets double that and round up and say 600,000 for his career probably now including with Natas. I honestly thought it would be quite a bit more. That song wasn't a diss but no wonder he might be a little bitter lol.

I saw another article shortly after I posted that and said it was over 1.7 million, so who knows.

Esham has made a name for himself with thirty different independent solo projects and over 1,750,000 units sold collectively through Soundscan without aid from a major label, radio or tv.​

i didn't realize counting units sold was the cool thing to do with underground artists though? I thought we were all above that. That's for the 50 cents and Jay Z's and the Eminems etc.

I don't care one way or another. Esham's buzz was fairly big at one time all things considered and obviously fizzled down over time. I'm sure that will happen to Tyler and OF eventually as it does with everyone.

I still haven't heard a diss though. Looks more like Esham or someone else is just trying to get attention by putting OF's name in a couple youtube video's. But I wouldn't be surprised either if he is dissing them esham's dissed everyone and their mama and then he'll do a song with them lol he's a weird guy

 

[Nuttkase]

Nah, I don't really care about their units sold except that it's pretty impressive that Tyler pushed that much first week with the lack of all the things that usually make people sell a bunch of records. I could have cared less if he sold 1,000 copies, I'd still like his music just the same. I'm just trying to figure out why a lot of these older cats seem to be getting pretty bitter over these kids. Even with that little drive by the venue thing him and Danny Brown (whoever that is) seemed to be kind of jealous they were never in their postion.

I think it's the whole publicity thing though, like you kind of said in your last paragraph.

 

[2-0-Sixx]

with success comes hate, so it's expected.

off topic: anyone have a link to that new Mastamind album? I heard it was pretty tight

 

[Nuttkase]

What's the title? I can probably find it for you.

-edit-

Nevermind, here you go...

Mastamind - Ntoxsication

 

[2-0-Sixx]

::clicks invisible prop button::

 

[THE ACIDRAPTOR]

Mastaminds album is only digital & up on itunes, amazon, rhapsody, etc...
He just announced on his site www.toxsic.com that he will eventually rereelease this album physically wit new bonus tracks!!! Thats what he said tho...

 

[SMCrazy]

as much as I lovve RLP related music I think we should switch the threads direction back to strictly Odd Future matters

*though if THEACIDRAPTOR were to start a major Reel Life Production records thread and provide links to compressed folders containing years of RLP albums, that would be swag IMO**

 

[Rasan]

Esham hasnt made a good album since mail dominance.

 

[Roz]

Esham hasnt made a good album since mail dominance.

Very true... he's had a good song here and there, but overall not anything classic. I do think he gets overlooked though.

 

[KirbyDaAlmighty]

Esham hasnt made a good album since mail dominance.

The last album I heard by Esham was A-1 Yola.

I literally threw it away.

 

[Rasan]

i bought tongues. i was like wtf!
bought repentance and it only had one song i liked, and no it wasnt the one that was featuring krayzie bone. after that i was done lol
and if that esham song was a diss or not, it was still trash.