Mayweather vs Pacquiao May 2nd [official]

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I didn't give you the "tale of the tape" but I will now. As for what you can or can't find that's not my problem, pimp. Go look at the tale of the tape and you will see he was taller than Hagler by 3 1/2 inches, was younger than Hagler, had a longer reach than Hagler by four inches, had wrists bigger by an inch and bigger ankles. Hagler had a chest that was one inch larger, thighs and calfs two inches larger, neck 3/4 larger and 1/4 larger fists. Now according to the link YOU posted, the heavier man with the longer reach wins. Who has the longer reach? Hearns. Who weighed more on fight night? Hearns. So, according to YOUR link, Hearns should have won. What happened? And LMAO@ "public survey."

As for Ali and Foreman why did I need to say anything? What does your link say? We have a taller fighter in Foreman and he weighed more. What happened? What happened to Ali when he fought Frazier? He gave him his first defeat. You can find the tale of the tape via Google. How about Holyfield and Douglas? He was taller, had a reach advantage and weighed more. What happened?

In closing, a great big man beating a great little man is not something I go by. You can go by that if you want, I'm not. As for Pac, getting knocked out by JMM, it proves what I am talking about. Whoever imposes their will and doesn't get hit with that fight changing punch wins. Nothing else to discuss, pimp.
Floyd is a naturally bigger fighter than Pacquaio...Floyd happens to have a longer reach than Manny. Hagler was the bigger fighter than Hearns when they met, Hearns so happened to have the longer reach than Hagler. Ali was the smaller fighter by 2 pounds lol...but he had a longer reach than Forman but was .5 inches shorter...(they were both the same size). I didn't equate reach to being the bigger man when comparing Floyd and Manny it just so happens that Floyd has a reach advantage as well as being the BIGGER fighter.

I won't contest the Frazier vs Ali scenario (great little man beat a great big man) in their 1st meeting...even though in the best of 3 the bigger man won the series Ali 2 to 1..also in the best out of 3 with Leonard vs Duran...Bowe vs Holyfield...Lewis vs Holyfield...Holyfield vs Tyson...Lewis vs Tyson...best out of 4 between Pacquiao vs Marquez. As I said before the "adage" isn't an absolute but it does lend itself to the advantage of the bigger fighter. And I'm still searching frantically for any comparative thoughts, comments, analysis or even a traceable passage that said Hearns moving up to face Hagler was the bigger man of the two.
 
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lol probably the best thing Roach ever told Pac


Roach: I Told Pacquiao, God Don't Give a Fuck Who Wins



By Edward Chaykovsky

According to Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach, he is a little concerned that Manny Pacquiao's conversion to evangelical Christianity has pushed away the boxer's killer instinct. Pacquiao has not scored a knockout win since a fall 2009 twelfth round TKO of Miguel Cotto.

On May 2nd, he steps in the ring for the biggest fight of his career - against Floyd Mayweather Jr. at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Roach wants Pacquiao to be at his meanest, his most aggressive state, when he faces Mayweather. The veteran coach is advising his fighter to apply pressure at all times, throw a very high volume of punches, and close the show with a knockout if the opportunity is there.

“It’s the biggest day of my life," Roach told New York Magazine. “Manny has to fight the best fight of his life to win, and that won’t be easy. I want to get him meaner and more aggressive because he’s going to need it in this fight. He tells me, ‘Let’s just fight and let God decide who wins’. I said, 'Manny, God doesn't give a fuck who wins. He’s got bigger things to do.”
 
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lol probably the best thing Roach ever told Pac


Roach: I Told Pacquiao, God Don't Give a Fuck Who Wins



By Edward Chaykovsky

According to Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach, he is a little concerned that Manny Pacquiao's conversion to evangelical Christianity has pushed away the boxer's killer instinct. Pacquiao has not scored a knockout win since a fall 2009 twelfth round TKO of Miguel Cotto.

On May 2nd, he steps in the ring for the biggest fight of his career - against Floyd Mayweather Jr. at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Roach wants Pacquiao to be at his meanest, his most aggressive state, when he faces Mayweather. The veteran coach is advising his fighter to apply pressure at all times, throw a very high volume of punches, and close the show with a knockout if the opportunity is there.

“It’s the biggest day of my life," Roach told New York Magazine. “Manny has to fight the best fight of his life to win, and that won’t be easy. I want to get him meaner and more aggressive because he’s going to need it in this fight. He tells me, ‘Let’s just fight and let God decide who wins’. I said, 'Manny, God doesn't give a fuck who wins. He’s got bigger things to do.”
I agree with Freddy...it concerns me when fighters bring religion or a belief that it's in a higher powers hands. If God is needed at any point let him bestow upon each fighter good health after the bout. Other than that...Manny get your mind right. However Manny might use this approach effectively for him. Whatever gets him 100% for the fight I'm all for it.
 

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The bout will take place at 147lbs for the WBC/WBA/WBO titles. MGM Grand, Vegas.


Floyd "Money" Mayweather
47-0
5′ 8″
72″ reach
orthodox

Last four fights: Maidana UD, Maidana MD, Saul Alvarez UD, Robert Guerrero


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Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao
57-5-2
5′ 6½″
67 reach
southpaw

Last four fights: Chris Algieri UD, Timothy Bradley UD, Brandon Rios UD, Juan Manuel Marquez LKO




holy shit have I been living under a rock the past month? this is awesome i never thought this wouldve happened. i think its obvious that this fight lost a lot of its lustre, and mayweather will win in boring fashion
 

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lol probably the best thing Roach ever told Pac


Roach: I Told Pacquiao, God Don't Give a Fuck Who Wins



By Edward Chaykovsky

According to Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach, he is a little concerned that Manny Pacquiao's conversion to evangelical Christianity has pushed away the boxer's killer instinct. Pacquiao has not scored a knockout win since a fall 2009 twelfth round TKO of Miguel Cotto.

On May 2nd, he steps in the ring for the biggest fight of his career - against Floyd Mayweather Jr. at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Roach wants Pacquiao to be at his meanest, his most aggressive state, when he faces Mayweather. The veteran coach is advising his fighter to apply pressure at all times, throw a very high volume of punches, and close the show with a knockout if the opportunity is there.

“It’s the biggest day of my life," Roach told New York Magazine. “Manny has to fight the best fight of his life to win, and that won’t be easy. I want to get him meaner and more aggressive because he’s going to need it in this fight. He tells me, ‘Let’s just fight and let God decide who wins’. I said, 'Manny, God doesn't give a fuck who wins. He’s got bigger things to do.”
lol already making excuses for when pac gets his ass beat
 
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Lol to be fair Roach has been talking about how he doesn't like this religious Pacquiao for a few years now. I remember he was pretty fucking pissed when Pacquiao broke training to have bible camp in the fucking gym!

I've been saying that too for a minute, that I miss the Pac that was bangin strippers on the side, gambling and into cock fighting. He gave all that shit up because of some fraud ass "religious guru" that somehow got into Pac's inner circle. But he did show a bit of that crazy animal against Marquez before he got KTFO. I kinda forgot how much of an epic fight that was, they were both fucking each other up.
 
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I knew Pac lost it when after the Bradley fight he was smiling. I think his behavior was actually worse than Hopkins kowtowing to Kovalev after he was manhandled. It's worse because this fool actually believes God gives a fuck about the outcome of a fight. Nigga, if God don't give a fuck about all the millins of fools dying from disease,violence, etc, what makes you think he gives two flying fucks about a fight? Shit, God probably don't like neither one of these niggas.
 
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Nigga, if God don't give a fuck about all the millins of fools dying from disease,violence, etc, what makes you think he gives two flying fucks about a fight? Shit, God probably don't like neither one of these niggas.
^^^^Lol...this quote right here should convince everybody to shut that religious banter down...more important things going on than two men waging violence for the sake of obscene amounts of money lol. Praying to god to give you the strength to beat the shit out of the next man HAHA.
 

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I knew Pac lost it when after the Bradley fight he was smiling. I think his behavior was actually worse than Hopkins kowtowing to Kovalev after he was manhandled. It's worse because this fool actually believes God gives a fuck about the outcome of a fight. Nigga, if God don't give a fuck about all the millins of fools dying from disease,violence, etc, what makes you think he gives two flying fucks about a fight? Shit, God probably don't like neither one of these niggas.
I hope he doesn't go down the Holyfield route lol

 
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Cant believe noones worked up about Mayweather declining a 5 mil fine for either fighter if they fail a drug test. I thought it was weight for some reason when I 1st read title of an article
 
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Cant believe noones worked up about Mayweather declining a 5 mil fine for either fighter if they fail a drug test. I thought it was weight for some reason when I 1st read title of an article
It's seems shady on pacquiaos camp. Cuz if pacman gets caught juicing then Floyd can sue him for a lot more than 5
 
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Its nothing to get worked up over. Michael Koncz wanted something in the contract where there would be an additional fee on top of the sanctioning body fines that would occur and it wasn't agreed on, so that's that. Both sides are being drug tested randomly, in fact both fighters have already been randomly surprised visited and submitted blood work. Everything is gravy. Koncz loves to put his own name out there to make it seem like he's important, like he actually does anything other than rip Pacquiao off.
 
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^^^^Lol...this quote right here should convince everybody to shut that religious banter down...more important things going on than two men waging violence for the sake of obscene amounts of money lol. Praying to god to give you the strength to beat the shit out of the next man HAHA.
All that matters is what Pacquiao BELIEVES he can do...


 
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All that matters is what Pacquiao BELIEVES he can do...
They got the accent wrong...that's Japanese

Filipino fobs say it as "I bee-lib I cun plyyy"

I should know cuz I'm filipino myself, and I have uncles who sound like Manny when they sing
 
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Cant believe noones worked up about Mayweather declining a 5 mil fine for either fighter if they fail a drug test. I thought it was weight for some reason when I 1st read title of an article
You know it's a non issue when Bob Arum SIDES with Mayweather:



Arum: Mayweather is Right on $5 Million Fine Debate




By Edward Chaykovsky

Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum is siding with the opinion of Floyd Mayweather, and says there is no reason for a $5 million penalty in the upcoming fight with Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Pacquiao's adviser, Michael Koncz, recently demanded a clause which called for a penalty of $5 million if one of the boxers tested positive for a banned substance in the ongoing random drug testing protocol being run by USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency).

Mayweather's adviser Leonard Ellerbe, at the direction of his client, rejected the clause of $5 million. USADA, who is working closely with the Nevada State Athletic Commission, has already issued a statement making it clear that the offending party would be subject to a fine which is much higher than $5 million.

“It’s a nonsense issue at all. Mayweather is right. There is no need of it since they would be penalized by more than $5 million by the Nevada Athletic Commission if ever they become positive of drug use. [This argument between them] won’t derail the fight and it won’t be postponed because they’ve both signed the contract. Both fighters are gearing up with more days left and I believe Manny has the edge to win over Floyd,” Arum told The Manila Times.
 
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Ellerbe goin hard on Koncz lol......



Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions and Mayweather's close adviser, said Koncz should have had those terms negotiated into the main contract.

"Michael Koncz is an idiot, and Manny Pacquiao should be ashamed to have him as his representative, in my opinion," Ellerbe told ESPN.com. "It's obvious he didn't read the contract. Why would he have his fighter sign something he was not happy with? The deal was negotiated up and down by his promoter [Bob Arum of Top Rank] on behalf of Manny with Floyd and Mayweather Promotions, and it's been well documented in the media for quite some time.

"If this moron didn't convey his fighter's wishes when the negotiation was going on, that's their problem. This is a lame-ass attempt to generate publicity."


When asked why Pacquiao didn't negotiate the fine into the master fight agreement, Koncz said he was concerned with getting the fight signed and did not want to do anything to jeopardize very delicate negotiations. Besides, he said, both camps knew they would have to sign a separate agreement with USADA to outline the specific terms of the testing.

"We were still discussing the penalty. We've been going back and forth about it for the past three or four weeks. We hoped that we could sign that agreement around the same time as the agreement with USADA," Koncz said. "[The Mayweather camp] is saying, 'Why wasn't it brought up for the main contract?' Why does it have to be brought up for the main contract? Everything in the main contract pertains to the co-promotion and the promoters. You can argue all day if [a penalty agreement] should be with the USADA contract or the main contract. What do you have to lose or gain in that argument? It's a simple thing -- if you fail, you pay the other guy $5 million. The issue is simple -- are you willing to agree to a penalty of $5 million? The drug-testing terms and any penalty, that's between the fighters not the promoters.

"We have no recourse. We can't force Floyd into something. But we gave them an opportunity to put their money where their mouth is and they wouldn't. I won't speculate why. To me there is no legitimate argument. We know we're clean. That's why Manny said he would pay $5 million if he tested dirty. Manny was surprised [Mayweather refused]. He can't figure out why they wouldn't agree to it when Floyd is always talking about cleaning up the sport of boxing."

Added Ellerbe: "If Manny Pacquiao tested positive, it is going to cost him a whole lot more than $5 million. All parties signed a contract agreeing to every term. Where has this idiot Koncz been? It sounds like he didn't read the documents they signed. No wonder why his fighter is always confused. It sounds like that idiot is suggesting there's a $5 million price tag if Manny comes up positive. That sounds suspicious. All I know is we welcome random testing as we always have."
 
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Ellerbe goin hard on Koncz lol......



Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions and Mayweather's close adviser, said Koncz should have had those terms negotiated into the main contract.

"Michael Koncz is an idiot, and Manny Pacquiao should be ashamed to have him as his representative, in my opinion," Ellerbe told ESPN.com. "It's obvious he didn't read the contract. Why would he have his fighter sign something he was not happy with? The deal was negotiated up and down by his promoter [Bob Arum of Top Rank] on behalf of Manny with Floyd and Mayweather Promotions, and it's been well documented in the media for quite some time.

"If this moron didn't convey his fighter's wishes when the negotiation was going on, that's their problem. This is a lame-ass attempt to generate publicity."


When asked why Pacquiao didn't negotiate the fine into the master fight agreement, Koncz said he was concerned with getting the fight signed and did not want to do anything to jeopardize very delicate negotiations. Besides, he said, both camps knew they would have to sign a separate agreement with USADA to outline the specific terms of the testing.

"We were still discussing the penalty. We've been going back and forth about it for the past three or four weeks. We hoped that we could sign that agreement around the same time as the agreement with USADA," Koncz said. "[The Mayweather camp] is saying, 'Why wasn't it brought up for the main contract?' Why does it have to be brought up for the main contract? Everything in the main contract pertains to the co-promotion and the promoters. You can argue all day if [a penalty agreement] should be with the USADA contract or the main contract. What do you have to lose or gain in that argument? It's a simple thing -- if you fail, you pay the other guy $5 million. The issue is simple -- are you willing to agree to a penalty of $5 million? The drug-testing terms and any penalty, that's between the fighters not the promoters.

"We have no recourse. We can't force Floyd into something. But we gave them an opportunity to put their money where their mouth is and they wouldn't. I won't speculate why. To me there is no legitimate argument. We know we're clean. That's why Manny said he would pay $5 million if he tested dirty. Manny was surprised [Mayweather refused]. He can't figure out why they wouldn't agree to it when Floyd is always talking about cleaning up the sport of boxing."

Added Ellerbe: "If Manny Pacquiao tested positive, it is going to cost him a whole lot more than $5 million. All parties signed a contract agreeing to every term. Where has this idiot Koncz been? It sounds like he didn't read the documents they signed. No wonder why his fighter is always confused. It sounds like that idiot is suggesting there's a $5 million price tag if Manny comes up positive. That sounds suspicious. All I know is we welcome random testing as we always have."
Fuck both those guys, nostril king and slime ball