Huh? JR had to do something right to get picked first overall dog. Come on now. Al Davis is just being stubborn. I'll have to side with JR on this one. Why should JR have to sign a contract that differs from the other draft pick contracts? JR wants his structured just like Calvin Johnson's is structured but Al doesn't want to do it.
J. Russell.. raider Fans, What's The Deal?
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he played well aganst medicore schools...thats what he did
Hell ask most fans of his and one of his most memorable games last year was tennesse...HE THREW 3 INT'S that game...wow memorable game for you....lol
lets see against louisana lafayette 3 td's 0 ints, tulane 2 td's 0 int's, Kentucky 2td's 0int's....now
Aubrun 0 td's 0 int's, Florida 1 td 3int's, tennesse 3td's 3 int's, Notre Dme 2 td's 1 int
way to step up against real teams there JR
Hell ask most fans of his and one of his most memorable games last year was tennesse...HE THREW 3 INT'S that game...wow memorable game for you....lol
lets see against louisana lafayette 3 td's 0 ints, tulane 2 td's 0 int's, Kentucky 2td's 0int's....now
Aubrun 0 td's 0 int's, Florida 1 td 3int's, tennesse 3td's 3 int's, Notre Dme 2 td's 1 int
way to step up against real teams there JR
Its shit like this that fucks up team's salary. Likee someone said before, the NFL should do rookie contracts like the NBA. I dont think Lebron was making a million in his first 3 years.
Al doesnt want to end up like the Lions, like how they are paying like 25 million just for their recievers and only 5 of the 11 are still on the team.
Al just knows he has to sign Russell and the top 3 pick next year. Thats alot of guaranteed money for 3 players (Gallery, Russell, next years top 3 pick) when you have a 53 man team.
Al doesnt want to end up like the Lions, like how they are paying like 25 million just for their recievers and only 5 of the 11 are still on the team.
Al just knows he has to sign Russell and the top 3 pick next year. Thats alot of guaranteed money for 3 players (Gallery, Russell, next years top 3 pick) when you have a 53 man team.
Yes.. NBA has a three year rookie contract system. With a fourth year team option, I believe.
Greg Oden's Contract (All Guaranteed) (Comparing because they are number 1 picks)
Year 1 - $4,662,000
Year 2 - $5,011,680
Year 3 - $5,361,240
Year 4 - $6,796,524
Total: 4 Years, 21.831 Million, guaranteed..
So, Russell is probably getting a 5 or 6 year deal, I'm guessing, so 30 mil guaranteed isn't bad, but he's gonna get rediculous amount of money based on Calvin Johnson's contract.
I have no idea what Jamarcus is talked about getting, but Calvin got six years, 64 million at the number two pick, 27.2 Million Guaranteed. Russell will probably end up with about a 6 year, 70-72 million dollar contract, with 30-32 guaranteed.
Greg Oden's Contract (All Guaranteed) (Comparing because they are number 1 picks)
Year 1 - $4,662,000
Year 2 - $5,011,680
Year 3 - $5,361,240
Year 4 - $6,796,524
Total: 4 Years, 21.831 Million, guaranteed..
So, Russell is probably getting a 5 or 6 year deal, I'm guessing, so 30 mil guaranteed isn't bad, but he's gonna get rediculous amount of money based on Calvin Johnson's contract.
I have no idea what Jamarcus is talked about getting, but Calvin got six years, 64 million at the number two pick, 27.2 Million Guaranteed. Russell will probably end up with about a 6 year, 70-72 million dollar contract, with 30-32 guaranteed.
This sounds about right. I don't know if JR is asking for 70 mill though. JR wants his 30 mill guaranteed the same way everyone else's money is guaranteed from what I understand. But the Raiders don't want to guarantee all of that 30 mill like everyone else got their's guaranteed. If I was JR I wouldn't sign the contract either.
hes been offered money in the range of 30-32 mill guaranteed. his agents reportedly want something in the range 33-35 mill. his agents players are known for long holdouts. the raiders are doing the right thing by not budging. if you think it would be wise to give 35 mill to a rookie quarterback without being able to take it back if he was to get injured or holdout again your simply dumb. to all the idiots that are saying this is another example of raiders mismangement and all that other shit are idiots. you have to think about your teams future. im not trippin if he doesnt play this season. hell be signed soon enough for him to learn the offense and be able to play next year.
If you were in his shoes you would want a huge contract too! Please with this show you;re worthy crap. You guys are all outsiders. No one knows what the fuck is going on with these contract negotiations. Who would want just a 1 year deal? No one! Signed for one year and break a leg. You are pretty much fucked! Now if you were to be signed for multiple years and then break a leg....you are still getting paid to rehabilitate. Most of these athletes don't even have a high level of education. They need a long term contract and a proper amount of money to live. Thats the reason why these jack offs want long term deals with money guaranteed. Welcome to the professional sports world.
Honestly though, don't you think that extra two million would've been worth it so he could develop in pre-season a little.
Now, he can pretty much hold out as long as he wants if you ask me. Neither side has reason to push forward that much. He has this week to come in and hope to get any playing time this season probably.
I don't see him playing at all with Culpepper, Walter and McCown there right now. He has no reason to rush forward, since its not gonna get him more PT, and the team has no reason to rush forward anymore since he's already lost the most important part of a Rookie QBs season, and that's training camp and the pre-season.
If I was Al Davis or whoever runs the raiders organization. I'd lowball the fuck out of him right now. I'd at least start lowering the offers.
If he does holdout through the year, and go back into the draft, he won't be a top pick. This will kill his draftability, plus the fact that he'll have wasted a year.
Now, he can pretty much hold out as long as he wants if you ask me. Neither side has reason to push forward that much. He has this week to come in and hope to get any playing time this season probably.
I don't see him playing at all with Culpepper, Walter and McCown there right now. He has no reason to rush forward, since its not gonna get him more PT, and the team has no reason to rush forward anymore since he's already lost the most important part of a Rookie QBs season, and that's training camp and the pre-season.
If I was Al Davis or whoever runs the raiders organization. I'd lowball the fuck out of him right now. I'd at least start lowering the offers.
If he does holdout through the year, and go back into the draft, he won't be a top pick. This will kill his draftability, plus the fact that he'll have wasted a year.
I agree. Not only will he not be a top pick, but most teams would hesitate to draft him because of the holdout he pulled this year. The way I see it, the raiders can start taking advantage of the situation right now. Just tell his ass that their offer is going to keep going down until he signs. Let him know what's gonna happen if he holds out the entire season. He might say fuck it and sign before the offer gets any lower. But if he plays hardball, they may have wasted their number one pick completely.
Honestly though, I think Russell is going too far with this shit. He has never taken a snap, and he wants more money than a lot of starting QBs in the league.
Honestly though, I think Russell is going too far with this shit. He has never taken a snap, and he wants more money than a lot of starting QBs in the league.