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Mayweather Sr. thinks Floyd Jr. can do well at 140
Boxing article posted on October 31st, 2012 | Post Comment


floyd mayweather jr By Chris Williams: Floyd Mayweather Sr. sees his son Floyd Mayweather Jr. doing really well if he were to choose to move down to 140 lbs instead of choosing to fight at 147 and 154 like he’s doing now.

Floyd Sr. told Fighthype.com “You know Floyd can still fight at 140 if he wanted to. He would be untouchable there.”

Floyd Sr. has a good point because Mayweather Jr. would really clean up on the top light welterweights in the division and honestly there’s not much left for him to fight at 147 or 154. Those divisions have been emptied apart from Manny Pacquiao and Saul Alvarez. Boxing fans would like to see Mayweather fight Pacquiao, but that fight is likely never to happen for a variety of reasons that are now too played out to even discuss.

Here’s what Mayweather Jr. would have to contend with if he were to move back down to 140:

Danny Garcia
Amir Khan
Lucas Matthysse
Ajose Olusegun
Lamont Peterson
Zab Judah
Brandon Rios
Mike Alvarado
Mercito Gesta
Juan Manuel Marquez

That’s a pretty weak bunch of fighters. Matthysse and Garcia are easily the best of the bunch, while guys like Alvarado and Rios are probably not going to interest Mayweather because they fight for Top Rank. That would probably be like Mayweather trying to fight Pacquiao. I can’t see it happening in this lifetime.

If Mayweather to move down to 140 I could see him extending his career into his 40s because there just isn’t that much for him to worry about at 140 other than Khan, Garcia and Matthysse. Those guys will likely move up in weight in the near future anyway so there’s not much of a threat for Mayweather at that weight.

Mayweather should really consider not fighting at 154 anymore because he’s not big enough to be fighting guys that balloon up to near 170 lbs after they weigh-in. Mayweather was basically fighting a super middleweight in his last fight against Miguel Cotto and that explains why he took so much punishment.
 
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50 Cent Takes Aim at Former
Friend Mayweather Jr.

By Edward Chaykovsky

Everyone was waiting to see which superstar
would cast the first stone. In a few recent
interviews, Floyd Mayweather Jr. took the high
road and said he was not going to take any shots
at his former friend and business partner,
rapper 50 Cent.

At one time they were the closest of friends, but
that relationship fell apart when 50 Cent started
his own promotional company, TMT Promotions,
which he believed Mayweather was going to be
involved in.

Mayweather backed away from TMT and
continued to work with his existing partners,
Golden Boy Promotions and adviser Al Haymon.
50 Cent dropped the TMT banner and changed
the name of the company to SMS Promotions.
He also took his fighters, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Billy
Dib and Andre Dirrell. The most revealing move
was 50 Cent's newfound alliance with
Mayweather's rivals, Manny Pacquiao and Top
Rank.

"TMT is over. The money team is no longer a
team. So it's SMS Promotions....that's it, that's
all. I'm no longer a part or down with TMT
Promotions. If anyone wants a Money Team
jacket , I'm selling mine for a dollar. The nap
back hat comes with it. That's a fair price. I
moved the fighters to SMS Promotions cause
the other half of 'the money team' didn't put up
their money," 50 Cent wrote on his social
network accounts.
 
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Mayweather: Pacquiao declining and desperate
ESPN
October 31, 2012

Floyd Mayweather Jr believes Manny Pacquiao's willingness to accept a sub-50% cash split for a fight is a sign of desperation.

Pacquiao recently made the admission that he would be content to take 45% of the money if a bout was agreed between the pair, with the majority going to Mayweather.

The revelation came in the wake of Pacquiao's defeat to Timothy Bradley, which followed a disputed points triumph over Juan Manuel Marquez, who he meets again on December 8.

"In my opinion, Manny Pacquiao is desperate," Mayweather told fighthype. "He doesn't make his own decisions, because Manny Pacquiao has a boss, his promoter [Bob Arum], who makes his decisions.

"Once you take a loss and you're on the decline... Listen, Manny Pacquiao, whether he got cheated or not [against Bradley], his stock drops enormously after taking a loss. No matter how you took a loss, you took a loss."

The distribution of money proved an insurmountable hurdle during the most recent round of negotiations between Mayweather and Pacquiao. Previously, a dispute over the timing of blood tests put paid to any agreement.

Read more at http://www.espn.co.u...M0wqFXEJqBRB.99
 
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Mayweather: Pacquiao declining and desperate
ESPN
October 31, 2012

Floyd Mayweather Jr believes Manny Pacquiao's willingness to accept a sub-50% cash split for a fight is a sign of desperation.

Pacquiao recently made the admission that he would be content to take 45% of the money if a bout was agreed between the pair, with the majority going to Mayweather.

The revelation came in the wake of Pacquiao's defeat to Timothy Bradley, which followed a disputed points triumph over Juan Manuel Marquez, who he meets again on December 8.

"In my opinion, Manny Pacquiao is desperate," Mayweather told fighthype. "He doesn't make his own decisions, because Manny Pacquiao has a boss, his promoter [Bob Arum], who makes his decisions.

"Once you take a loss and you're on the decline... Listen, Manny Pacquiao, whether he got cheated or not [against Bradley], his stock drops enormously after taking a loss. No matter how you took a loss, you took a loss."

The distribution of money proved an insurmountable hurdle during the most recent round of negotiations between Mayweather and Pacquiao. Previously, a dispute over the timing of blood tests put paid to any agreement.

Read more at http://www.espn.co.u...M0wqFXEJqBRB.99
Basically summing up the reason why He, Himself (Mayweather) will not fight someone who has the best potential at beating him.

Because if he takes that L, he knows that money declines.


Not hating, just stating a fact. like he did against Pacquiao
 
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I don't know why floyd cares so much that Manny "has a boss", like he hasn't fought anyone else that doesn't didn't have a boss before? There are literally like 5 "free agent" boxers in the entire sport. Floyd, Cotto and probably a couple no name guys that are doing it on their own for whatever reason. That's it. It's extremely rare in boxing to be a relivant fighter and not have a contract with a promoter.

Anyways, so I guess since Pac took an "L" that means floyd wants even more money. 98/2 split? lol, whatever. This fight is further from reality than it was a few years ago, sadly.
 
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Basically summing up the reason why He, Himself (Mayweather) will not fight someone who has the best potential at beating him.

Because if he takes that L, he knows that money declines.


Not hating, just stating a fact. like he did against Pacquiao
You guys are letting your emotions or hate for Mayweather blind you. Mayweather offered this guy 50/50 random testing with a 14-day cut-off.
Mayweather offered this guy $40 million and random testing.

Both times Manny didn't want to fight. Now that your last PPV did 750k and no one is buying this 4th fight with Marquez, so you will have another PPV under a million.

Now that you're already signed up to fight Marquez, you want to talk about Mayweather?? Bob already said that Manny is fighting Rios next win or lose against Marquez. And you guys are still buying this Mayweather is scared of Manny bullshit?? Manny couldn't beat injuried Bradley clearly, and got out boxed by a 38 yr old Marquez last year. Just stop it with this Mayweather is scared or ducking Manny it's old and played out.

Once Manny resigned to Top Rank this fight died for good. Manny will fight Rios, Bradley, or Marquez again.

Mayweather will fight the Berto vs The Ghost winner, then Canelo.

This fight is dead until some contracts are signed..
 
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I don't know why floyd cares so much that Manny "has a boss", like he hasn't fought anyone else that doesn't didn't have a boss before? There are literally like 5 "free agent" boxers in the entire sport. Floyd, Cotto and probably a couple no name guys that are doing it on their own for whatever reason. That's it. It's extremely rare in boxing to be a relivant fighter and not have a contract with a promoter.

Anyways, so I guess since Pac took an "L" that means floyd wants even more money. 98/2 split? lol, whatever. This fight is further from reality than it was a few years ago, sadly.
I love how you leave off the fact that Mayweather and Top Rank have not done any business together since Mayweather brought himself out of his contract. Top Rank and Mayweather don't like eachother. Manny knows this just like the rest of the world. Manny could've not resigned to Top Rank, fought Mayweather got paid, and then sign back to Top Rank just that easy. But yet Manny choice to re-sign. But Mayweather has to bend over backwards to make the fight for a third time after Manny already walked away the other two times. The hate for Mayweather is so strong. Cotto left Top Rank and got a career high payday from Mayweather, I guess Manny didn't want to money then..
 
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You guys are letting your emotions or hate for Mayweather blind you. Mayweather offered this guy 50/50 random testing with a 14-day cut-off.
Mayweather offered this guy $40 million and random testing.

Both times Manny didn't want to fight. Now that your last PPV did 750k and no one is buying this 4th fight with Marquez, so you will have another PPV under a million.

Now that you're already signed up to fight Marquez, you want to talk about Mayweather?? Bob already said that Manny is fighting Rios next win or lose against Marquez. And you guys are still buying this Mayweather is scared of Manny bullshit?? Manny couldn't beat injuried Bradley clearly, and got out boxed by a 38 yr old Marquez last year. Just stop it with this Mayweather is scared or ducking Manny it's old and played out.

Once Manny resigned to Top Rank this fight died for good. Manny will fight Rios, Bradley, or Marquez again.

Mayweather will fight the Berto vs The Ghost winner, then Canelo.

This fight is dead until some contracts are signed..
You quoted me so I'll respond:

I did not bring anything about Mayweather being scared to fight Manny. You brought it up like I said it. I was simply saying that Mayweathers biggest fear is the "L". He wants to retire from boxing Undefeated, more than he wants to fight the toughest fights out there. And that is a FACT.

He just stated it in that interview. His biggest fear summed up by 1 sentence....

"Once you take a loss and you're on the decline..."
I am not even about to re-visit the fight against Bradley with you because you and Tony are 2 of the 10 people IN THE WORLD that felt like Manny lost.

There is no point.

Funny how you beefed up Bradley like he is the toughest fight Manny could take and he would do this and that, but since Bradley "clearly" defeated Manny, all you do is criticize Manny for losing.

Hey, he should of lost to begin with .....according to you.

Your Father, Mayweather, even acknowledges Manny "might of have got cheated":

Listen, Manny Pacquiao, whether he got cheated or not [against Bradley], his stock drops enormously after taking a loss. No matter how you took a loss, you took a loss."

Why can't you?? Oh wait, you did......then conveniently changed your mind. I forgot.
 
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You quoted me so I'll respond:

I did not bring anything about Mayweather being scared to fight Manny. You brought it up like I said it. I was simply saying that Mayweathers biggest fear is the "L". He wants to retire from boxing Undefeated, more than he wants to fight the toughest fights out there. And that is a FACT.

He just stated it in that interview. His biggest fear summed up by 1 sentence....



I am not even about to re-visit the fight against Bradley with you because you and Tony are 2 of the 10 people IN THE WORLD that felt like Manny lost.

There is no point.

Funny how you beefed up Bradley like he is the toughest fight Manny could take and he would do this and that, but since Bradley "clearly" defeated Manny, all you do is criticize Manny for losing.

Hey, he should of lost to begin with .....according to you.

Your Father, Mayweather, even acknowledges Manny "might of have got cheated":




Why can't you?? Oh wait, you did......then conveniently changed your mind. I forgot.
Again you hear what you want to hear. I clearly wrote that Manny didn't even beat a injuried 140lb Bradley CLEARLY. I scored the fight a draw. Guess what Manny looked like shit against Bradley so I don't see how Manny should get any props for not looking good against a 140lber. At least Canelo knocks out small guys or give them a good beating. Manny didn't do shit against Bradley. That's not the point at hand. The point is Manny is not worth a 55 -45 spilt. Manny is not in a position of power anymore to tell Mayweather anything. He should've taken the $40 million, because after another under million PPV, he will be lucky to get 65-35 split. But Manny resigning to Top Rank killed the fight anyway. Manny vs Rios 2013 and I called it in April 2012. Arum will never let Manny fight Mayweather and it's been proven two times already.. They just want to use Mayweather name to sell his fight. You wasn't even talking about Manny until Mayweather spoke. Mayweather understand this to that's why he calling them desperate.
 
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I have a question for the Rios fans. Bradley is a Top Rank fighter and has no fight set-up, why is Bradley vs Rios not even being talked about by anyone?? Bradley vs Rios would be a perfect set-up for the winner of Manny vs Marquez 4.
 
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ELLERBE CORRECTS JACKSON: "FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS THE MONEY TEAM"
By Ben Thompson | November 01, 2012

"Let's be clear on this, Floyd Mayweather is The Money Team, and he's always been The Money Team. He's the beginning, the middle and the end of The Money Team," stated Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe when informed of recent comments made by upstart promoter Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson. Yesterday evening, in an effort to promote upcoming bouts for his own fighters, Jackson took to Twitter and made comments regarding his affiliation with former friend, undefeated pound-for-pound champion Floyd Mayweather.

"TMT IS OVER the money team is no longer a team. So it SMS promotions that's it thats all," Jackson would write prior to announcing fights that have yet to made official for IBF super featherweight champion Billy Dib and undefeated former super featherweight champion Yuriorkis Gamboa.
 
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Bradley ain't getting no shine after the Manny fight. Bradley needs a big fight and soon.. Manny vs Rios would be all action until the end that is true.
bradley is kind of a dummy he should have stayed active instead he decided to sit out all of 2012 and the first qtr of 2013.

Not many people want to see him anyway being that he never had much fans in the first place and everyone knows he got a robbery. No demand for bradley. like almost zero. it's crazy.
 
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I love how you leave off the fact that Mayweather and Top Rank have not done any business together since Mayweather brought himself out of his contract. Top Rank and Mayweather don't like eachother. Manny knows this just like the rest of the world. Manny could've not resigned to Top Rank, fought Mayweather got paid, and then sign back to Top Rank just that easy. But yet Manny choice to re-sign. But Mayweather has to bend over backwards to make the fight for a third time after Manny already walked away the other two times. The hate for Mayweather is so strong. Cotto left Top Rank and got a career high payday from Mayweather, I guess Manny didn't want to money then..
mayweather has to bend over backwards? are you crazy?

Floyd calling the shots as to when, where the fight has to be.
Floyd calling the shots on the drug testing.
Floyd calling the shots on how much money HE requires.

And he's bending over backwards?

Man, floyd and arum not doing business can only go for so long. I mean, at first floyd had NO PROBLEM working with Arum so long as Pac took the drug tests, right? That was the only hold up. Pac has now agreed to the drug tests and now it's Arum? C'mon bro.

Even Arum and Oscar end up doing business together from time to time.
 
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don't get me wrong though id love to see bradley vs marquez, or berto/guerrero. shit even khan would still be interesting. but I think he thinks he can land a mayweather fight, I bet that's why he's sitting out. slim chance imo, I'm betting Canelo vs floyd will happen may 2013.
 
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MAYWEATHER SR: "FLOYD FOUGHT HEALTHY VERSIONS...PACQUIAO FOUGHT WATERED DOWN AND WEIGHT DRAINED VERSIONS"
By Percy Crawford | November 02, 2012

During a recent conversation with FightHype.com, world-class trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. touched on several topics, but the one topic he kept coming back to was the comparisons between his son, Floyd Mayweather, and ring rival Manny Pacquiao. In particular, Mayweather Sr. discussed his son's latest performance against former champion Miguel Cotto, Not only does Sr. believe his son beat Cotto at his most comfortable weight, but he also believes he handed Cotto's his first legitimate loss. "Man, if you really look at things, my son beat an undefeated Cotto. If everything was in place, he would have been undefeated when he fought my son and I'm gonna leave it at that. I'll let everyone else connect the dots," Mayweather Sr. commented.

Of course Mayweather Sr. elaborated for those that may be connecting the wrong dots. "The Margarito situation was obvious and that's why Cotto whooped his ass in the rematch, and Pacquiao made the man suck down dry. Floyd fought him at 154, a weight he was undefeated at and was comfortable because he had no trouble making the weight," Sr. explained. In fact, he's convinced that if Pacquiao had fought Cotto at 154 pounds, the result would have been drastically different and he predicts Pacquiao wouldn't even be able to last 10 minutes with the naturally bigger man.

"If Pacquiao would have fought the same Cotto that my son fought, Cotto would have stopped him in 3 rounds. And the same thing goes for De La Hoya. A blind man could see that Floyd fought healthy versions of De La Hoya and Cotto and Pacquiao fought watered down and weight drained versions
 
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Roy Jones Jr: "Several guys haven’t taken the test, they’ve been avoiding it

Jenna: Roy you mention a lot people are testing positive. Do you think steroids in boxing are a problem?

RJJ: Yes, because so many guys have been testing positive, as matter of fact, there are several guys, who haven’t taken the test, they’ve been avoiding tests, it’s got to be problem if its showing up so much, and I mean truthfully that's the problem Floyd (Mayweather Jr) is having with Manny Pacquiao,  that’s the start, that he is worried about steroids, so it’s got to be a problem, because its one the key hold up in the biggest fight that could happen in boxing today. So that tells you it’s got to be a problem

Jenna: Well Roy your 43, and in your last fight you had to adjust to something’s differently, because you are a little bet older, how do u feel performing at this stage, how well do you think you can continue to do so?

RJJ: I can perform wonderful, there were days in the gym. I felt my self performing, and I was like wow 43 and you could still do this. And it just totally amazed me. Just to be able to do it like that totally shocked me, and its like why would you just stop, when u can perform at this level, it shows people, and its encouraging to other people just because you get older, doesn’t u have to stop what your doing, you may have to make few changes, but you don’t have to stop

Jenna: Let’s talk about something’s going around the sport. Some hot topics of the sports. One thing that’s seeing lingering for a while, Manny Pacquiao's decision loss to timothy Bradley, this fight in the world stage got so much negative press attracted so much attention to negative. You yourself were involved in a high controversial fight back in the amateurs, back in the Olympics. I'm just curious what your thoughts about all the press that decision got the one against Pacquiao and Bradley compare the one you got.

RJJ: It's a lot of similar press. But the problem with me is. And I am not saying this, because you got to understand, my hat still goes off to Timothy Bradley, because timothy Bradley said best said it him self, I don’t know, I was going and look at it and see what happens before I make that call so that shows you that he didn't feel comfortable about the decision or that he truly dominated or that he defeated Pacquiao in a dominating fashion. However, he did want to go back and look to see if did he do enough to make it a close fight or make it seem like it could of been  close than what it seems by most of the viewing public, so that to me said a lot about Timothy Bradley. Secondly I though Pacquiao pretty much dominated the fight, but here is the real problem... the real problem is, when organization, or higher up personal go and they review the fight, just like the IOC did in my Olympic case, and you go back and you review the fight and you realize that the judges made a bad decision or made a mistake and it could of been due to any reason. They could of been of mad, because Pacquiao held up the fight watching the basketball game that night, any reason... They could of made a mistake. Sometimes we makes mistakes out of anger, but when you realize that there was a mistake made, you don’t go reschedule another fight, you fix the mistake first, and if the IOC had fix the decision, you know what these guys made a bad decision, and RJJ won the fight, and what were going to do, is were not going blame Parsky Hearns for the fight but what will do is say is RJJ is gold medal 2 and maybe this year we gold medal a & b instead of gold, silver, bronze, you understand, because of the situation, we want to fix it. This kid dedicated a year of his life to become a gold medalist so they robbed him out, so were not going to let that go unfixed, and were going to fix that situation, and punish the judges.

That makes the next set of judges very aware, that if you cheat a guy, that something could happen to, and it makes it less likely that it will happen. And if you cheat a guy, it won’t do any good, because were going to go back review it and were going fix it. Now that discourages you from cheating! Why didn't the WBO go back and say you know we see clearly that Pacquiao won the fight were going too give Pacquiao his title back and were going to ask Pacquiao if you don’t mind coming back and fighting Timothy Bradley again. Which I am sure Pacquiao would do because you know what I got some decent money for it and it wasn’t a hard fight so why not fight him again, I beat him once and next time I am going to knock him and show you how I feel about it. You understand me? That makes it right, because now WBO came back and fixed the situation that was wrong. Not order a new fight, a new fight don't fix the first one. Because timothy Bradley shouldn't go to the second fight as a champion. That's my problem with it.

Jenna: Roy, what do you think boxing could do to fix the bad decisions, that continuously are happening, I mean you don’t see it once, its just not one fight, there have been plenty of bad decisions that are happening more and more.

RJJ: The way you fix it you go the problem who build it the judge? OK. If you make a bad decision, were going to reverse and were ban you from boxing or were going to suspend you for a year or two. You understand me? Now we suspend you for making bad decisions. So if you get involved in a bad decision that's obvious, your gone you’re out here. That way we don't have to worry about dealing with you no more. Right or wrong?

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Jenna: You know Roy after all these years, especially regarding you and what happened to you in Olympics, I am just curious do you have any ill feelings that they did give you gold, even though its been prove that there was something wrong done.

RJJ: Yeah I have ill feelings, because it decreases the integrity of the sport. When you can cheat somebody and don’t do anything about it. That’s like saying were going to go let a man going around here and rob a lady, and we know he did it, and we know what he did one tape, and were not going to do nothing to him, and were not going to give her money or whatever he stole from her back, than what good does it do to us to have a judicial system. Right or wrong. Integrity dies. If you let people go around and do whatever they want, what good does it do to us to have a judicial system? If your not going to fix it what good does it do u to have organization. It's automatic no way. No way you can cheat and get away with it.

Jenna: Let me go back and what you were talking about before, and that was Manny Pacquiao and that was the fact you know what he should do next, a lot of people don't want to see him fight Bradley. What do you think his next move should be?

RJJ: I don’t want him to fight Bradley either because to me that’s a waste of time and there is no reason he should be fighting Bradley, first of all he should have his title back, second of all if he wants to fix the fight, and he wants to create something go beat Marquez, because that’s the fight that’s always up in the air, that’s the fight we all wonder who won, we ain't wondering who won in the Bradley fight we know who won that, we wonder who won the Marquez fight so go fix what’s unproven that’s something you could do, I think the fight could of gone either way 1st time, I think it should of been a draw, I had the fight 6-6, but people want to see winner emerge from those bouts. No true winner has emerge, every time its been a wonderful fight, without a true winner, so if you want to do something, and prove something to yourself and us, go beat Marquez, not a timothy Bradley, that wasn’t even a hard fight for Pacquiao.

Jenna: You know that's the fight that people want to actually see right now, and if Pacquiao can beat Marquez, we all know the fight that people truly want to see, Mayweater vs. Pacquiao, Do you think it will happen?

RJJ: Yeah after that we would like to see him in a Mayweather fight, but because of the situation, because of the abuse of the steroids, which happens in professional sports today, people are afraid to make some of those calls and make some of those decisions, so people are having second guesses about certain fights, because they're worried about that, which makes sense, but at the same time you know boxing fans suffer. So we don't know what's going to happen there.

Jenna: Pacquiao obviously hasn't wanted to take steroid testing, because apparently he is afraid of needle’s. Do you think he should move pass that to make the big fight?

RJJ: It's not my call to make, and Pacquiao is a man of his own, and you cant really blame a guy for you know if he has something that bothers him like that, and you can't get mad at him for that, that's just what it is, if he has afraid of needles, than he has fear of needles, nothing we can do about that, nothing we should worry about hats not our fear, thats his fear, so same thing goes with Floyd, well if Floyd says no I want to fight him because of x, y, z well if he don’t want to fight because of that, than that’s Floyd decision to make, and Floyd says, and I ask Floyd, if he doesn’t want to take it I don’t want the fight. Okay than we have to respect that. But than at the same time its not my call to say who should move past what, because people have different feelings about different things.