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I believe that leaders are needed in any type of orginization. I don't see leadership as a dominating\submissive relationship. Leadership is a role that has to be filled; a role that is based on mutual respect.
I also beieve that people need laws or principles with which to live. I believe principled peoples need not be controlled, but be held accountable.

What I'm saying is nothing new, what we have not figured out is how to deal with inherent human weakness in any system.



I understand completely.I to feel that these last generations that in the now may need a sort of prison for violent offender such as murderers,rapist,basically where one person harms another person physically.And the severity of the crime will depend of the time.Once a RBE is in place,you will see a drastic decline in crimes that involve theft or drug use.Prolly a 95% drop in the crime rate would occur ,give or take 3%...Then we must ask ourselves,Why do most murders occur in the first place?And a strong percent would be due to the monetary system ...

I still believe humans from different walks of life can co exist without a leadership to govern the mass.Maybe incorporate a guide on the behavior that is expected from a human.Or Peace can be learned while the children are still young.I mean,there is a hand full of universal laws all humans should know ,like dont kill humans and dont rape things..!.
 
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I understand completely.I to feel that these last generations that in the now may need a sort of prison for violent offender such as murderers,rapist,basically where one person harms another person physically.And the severity of the crime will depend of the time.Once a RBE is in place,you will see a drastic decline in crimes that involve theft or drug use.Prolly a 95% drop in the crime rate would occur ,give or take 3%...Then we must ask ourselves,Why do most murders occur in the first place?And a strong percent would be due to the monetary system ...

I still believe humans from different walks of life can co exist without a leadership to govern the mass.Maybe incorporate a guide on the behavior that is expected from a human.Or Peace can be learned while the children are still young.I mean,there is a hand full of universal laws all humans should know ,like dont kill humans and dont rape things..!.
My whole question is, how will you take our current situation now, and move it towards: 95% drop in crime, change in a monetary system, leaderless peoples? Are you going to act through our current political system? challenge it? Will you keep the constitution? How about the constitution of other countries?
 

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I still believe humans from different walks of life can co exist without a leadership to govern the mass

heh.

One thing you fail to understand is the human is like any other animal in the wild, do what it takes to survive, if that means eating their own then so be it.
 
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Movie had some good stuff to say, like how it explored the detrimental effects stress on the body the system creates.. and stress on the ecosystem. Saw quite a few people slandering this video as subtle NWO propaganda.
 
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I understand completely.I to feel that these last generations that in the now may need a sort of prison for violent offender such as murderers,rapist,basically where one person harms another person physically.And the severity of the crime will depend of the time.Once a RBE is in place,you will see a drastic decline in crimes that involve theft or drug use.Prolly a 95% drop in the crime rate would occur ,give or take 3%...Then we must ask ourselves,Why do most murders occur in the first place?And a strong percent would be due to the monetary system ...



My whole question is, how will you take our current situation now, and move it towards: 95% drop in crime, change in a monetary system, leaderless peoples? Are you going to act through our current political system? challenge it? Will you keep the constitution? How about the constitution of other countries?

Good questions.These questions would be great for TZM members at www.thezeitgeistmovement.com ...From what i gather,the question should be "how could WE take our current situations now ?and change it into this RBE?"Basically about the now transition.Check out the site.People there can better answer these questions than I.From what i know.you give the people what they want and need,there would be no need to commit theft crimes...For the drug related crimes ,there would most likely be rehabilitation centers for them.IMHO cannabis is totally harmless compared to most substances out there.But,statistics show that alot of people using harder drugs usually have had a traumatic time in there lives. .What has "leaders done really lately?In any country?And in the past 50 years?Nothing.Its the same shit.Technology has gotten better.But it seems humans are still in the 60's.Computers might have a big say in a RBE.We know 2+2 will always be 4.Computers would be very helpful in the direction of a new and free society.As they do now.Computers are used now to tally up statistics,votes,polls,etc.You have to understand that humans are dictated by nature.If we dont eat,-we die.No oxygen-we die.We also live under the laws of gravity.So there are natural laws we HAVE to live by while on this planet..What come with leaders?Followers.Would it be safe to say that we can follow the rules/guide lines of a RBE?To be honest,i dont know much about the current policies here in this country.I dont think we would want to keep any old constitutions.Dont get me wrong,They were cool back in the day and helped keep freedoms to people.Would it be possible to use the constitution as a stepping stone to a new society ?Like learn about it,from it?Its not that complicated as compared to this current system.People should want to work to get this society off the ground so our grandchildren dont have to live threw the mess we lived threw.If i couldnt answer the question correctly,hit up some of the mates at the site.
 
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I still believe humans from different walks of life can co exist without a leadership to govern the mass

heh.

One thing you fail to understand is the human is like any other animal in the wild, do what it takes to survive, if that means eating their own then so be it.
LOL,so youre implying without leadership people would go barbaric and start to eat each other?What puts us above the animal kingdom????Surviving is getting harder in this current system,?When is the human race finally going to live life instead of surviving life??
Or,is your comment saying that human beings are to primitive and uneducated to exist without a leader ?and the only thing that will come fro that is cannibalism .What i can tell you is that we humans are in a time where we can create abundance and also strive for the betterment for all humans.
 

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LOL,so youre implying without leadership people would go barbaric and start to eat each other?What puts us above the animal kingdom????Surviving is getting harder in this current system,?When is the human race finally going to live life instead of surviving life??
Or,is your comment saying that human beings are to primitive and uneducated to exist without a leader ?and the only thing that will come fro that is cannibalism .What i can tell you is that we humans are in a time where we can create abundance and also strive for the betterment for all humans.

You might be the most ignorant person to post in this section, and that's saying a lot.
 
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You might be the most ignorant person to post in this section, and that's saying a lot.


Yea cuz you said.Really doesnt matter what you think.The answer to your animal kingdom question is we humans have a conscience..Try a lil harder to wake up from the B.S. and think with no box.You make it sound like humans cant stop from being apes.Or havent evolved from the jungles yet.:ermm:
 
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Pretty good video..
I do like some of the video... I agree with most of what is said..

Free energy.. and being self sufficient is very important..

I don't know about the Circle compact cities.. but
the growing of organic food sounds great...
since stuff like High Fructose Corn syrup in soda's
and other foods are designed to make you sick
and be a slave to the healthcare system. ..

They addressed the banks and money problems..
But they didn't address the plan for mass depopulation..
and microchips inside humans beings....

They do have the right idea about withdrawing the money from all the banks..
that would make the house of cards come down very fast...

Although I do not agree with the city designs.. and the machines part of it..
I did like the organic food.. and having enough for everyone...

It;s a good video... good idea...
I just don't see the need for all the city design and all the robots..

I think free energy.. and being self sufficient is enough...
withdrawing all money ... and not being under the system is a good start though..

So i guess their project is not called the Venus project anymore?