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Apr 25, 2002
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hold up

wait one one more minute......fatal, i would like u to elaborate on your statement " u can bang without being in a gang".......of course, me and my friends can go beat up someone, hell, we could even go bang on a blood..... so that means were officially crippin and throw up C's????? nah man, no matter who i "bang" on, i havent been put on by the set....and for me to claim that is not only perpetrating, but also dishonorable to every real rip in the city...
 
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Re: Re: Re: @fatal

209veteran said:


a "loco"....i dont know how they work it in east side gilroy......but aint none of that perpetrating shit going on in my town
it haz nothing to do with my muthafuckin EAST SYDE. there are major factorz who are not in a specific gang, but are part of tha NORTE faction. and homeboyz from ESS chill with at partiez N shyt, and they say itz all tha same. Stockton iz no different from Gilroy or San Jo. so dont come at me with fake ass shyt lyke that juzt cuz i dont live there homeboy, i know how shyt rollz. call it "perpetarting" if you want, but itz now obvious you dont know wut a perp iz.
 
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Re: hold up

209veteran said:
wait one one more minute......fatal, i would like u to elaborate on your statement " u can bang without being in a gang".......of course, me and my friends can go beat up someone, hell, we could even go bang on a blood..... so that means were officially crippin and throw up C's????? nah man, no matter who i "bang" on, i havent been put on by the set....and for me to claim that is not only perpetrating, but also dishonorable to every real rip in the city...
firzt of all Cripz/Bloodz are completely different from NORTENOZ/scrapz. keep that in mynd tha next tyme u say sum shyt lyke that.

you can BANG NORTE without entering a gang. NORTE iz more of a movement than a group of foolz who juzt beat down on people. being from Stockton, you should know that. but obviously you dont. you can join a gang that doeznt claim shyt, but itz still a gang. now wut tha fuck doez that have to do with claimin? not a damn thing. you can bang without joining a gang, NORTENOZ dont funk with eachother so it doeznt matter wut set your in, you're all homeboyz. point being, scrapz are enemiez, a NORTENO will bang on them whether he'z in a gang or not.

before you respond again, pleaze leave your crip theoriez out. itz not tha same. "vet"
 
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Re: Re: hold up

FaTaL NyGhTmArE said:

firzt of all Cripz/Bloodz are completely different from NORTENOZ/scrapz. keep that in mynd tha next tyme u say sum shyt lyke that.

you can BANG NORTE without entering a gang. NORTE iz more of a movement than a group of foolz who juzt beat down on people. being from Stockton, you should know that. but obviously you dont. you can join a gang that doeznt claim shyt, but itz still a gang. now wut tha fuck doez that have to do with claimin? not a damn thing. you can bang without joining a gang, NORTENOZ dont funk with eachother so it doeznt matter wut set your in, you're all homeboyz. point being, scrapz are enemiez, a NORTENO will bang on them whether he'z in a gang or not.

before you respond again, pleaze leave your crip theoriez out. itz not tha same. "vet"
THIS GUY IS QUITE KNOWLEDGABLE..... LET US NOT FEED INTO GAY ASS MATTS EGO.... NO MORE POSTS, ABOUT HIS CYBER-BANGIN ASS.... I FROM THIS DAY FORWARD WILL IGNORE MATT, AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE LIKE HIM. ( @ LEAST I WILL TRY,LOL)
 
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also, to make shyt more clear....there are more fake cripz out there than there are NORTENOZ. reazon being, a fake NORTENO getz handled real quick. fake cripz, I.E. fake ass whiteboy cripz, juzt go along thinkin they're tuff and nobody fuckz with them cuz they think they're clownz. but tha bad thing iz they are makin cripz look bad. look at snoop dogg, he'z makin cripz look lyke sum hoez. if a NORTENO pulled that shyt he'd get dealt with. there aint no perpin to be an ENE cuz you'll get handled with tha quickness. so, lyke i said....YOU CAN BANG NORTE WITHOUT JOINING A GANG.
 
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a parnta

i aint commin at you wit "fake shit".............im tryin to hollar at you on a real level, unlike most cats on here.......if u wanna vouch for matt, go for it......u really need to analyze the situation and see whos really commin real and who isnt......whatever tho man, i aint trippin either way......im through arguing on the net..shit is pointless......BUT TO SOME UP WHAT I WAS ORIGINALLY STATING, XIV OR NOT, AINT NO YOUNG ASS 15 OR 16 YEAR OLD PUTTIN HANDS ON ME......CRIP/BLOOD 13/14..... I GIVE A FUCK....AND WHEN WE CROSS PATHS MATT, YOULL FIGURE IT OUT.....CLAIMING A GANG THAT DOESNT EVEN KNOW U EXIST WILL NOT HELP U......fuck the gangbangin, ill go toe to toe wit anyone on this bitch, and thats my word.......your right fatal, my knowledge isnt in gangbangin 101, i never said it was....but im stickin wit my words that matt is perpn. after all these bullshit threads, he still hasnt claimed a hood or set..to me, when someone claims to be a norteno and doesnt have a hood to back him up, hes perpn.....if not, fuck, can u make me an honorary norteno. i want to jump on the bandwagon too........whatever, this shit is still funny to me.......whatever, im done
 
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Only thing I don't get is if you dont have to be put on a set to be a norteno doesn't that open floodgates of people that are down when they wanna be but aint nowhere to be found when somethin real jumps off? Seems like you'd end up with more perpetrators than any other gang....on top of that, if no one funks with nortenos besides fakes anyway, and they dont funk with themselves...how many of the non-set affiliated ones are ever even put in a bad situation?
 
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Re: a parnta

209veteran said:
i aint commin at you wit "fake shit".............im tryin to hollar at you on a real level, unlike most cats on here.......if u wanna vouch for matt, go for it......u really need to analyze the situation and see whos really commin real and who isnt......whatever tho man, i aint trippin either way......im through arguing on the net..shit is pointless......BUT TO SOME UP WHAT I WAS ORIGINALLY STATING, XIV OR NOT, AINT NO YOUNG ASS 15 OR 16 YEAR OLD PUTTIN HANDS ON ME......CRIP/BLOOD 13/14..... I GIVE A FUCK....AND WHEN WE CROSS PATHS MATT, YOULL FIGURE IT OUT.....CLAIMING A GANG THAT DOESNT EVEN KNOW U EXIST WILL NOT HELP U......fuck the gangbangin, ill go toe to toe wit anyone on this bitch, and thats my word.......your right fatal, my knowledge isnt in gangbangin 101, i never said it was....but im stickin wit my words that matt is perpn. after all these bullshit threads, he still hasnt claimed a hood or set..to me, when someone claims to be a norteno and doesnt have a hood to back him up, hes perpn.....if not, fuck, can u make me an honorary norteno. i want to jump on the bandwagon too........whatever, this shit is still funny to me.......whatever, im done
SEE HUN, YOU NEVER WILL CROSS PATHS WITH HIM.... THIS IS THE NET....AND THE NET IS ANOTHER UNIVERSE.... YOU CAN BE WHO YOU WANNA BE.... WHEN YOU WANNA BE.... SO FUCK IT, AND MARKS LIKE HIM....
 

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I can understand old timer Norteno shot callers who arent necessarily claiming any particular hood anymore... but in terms of people our age or younger claiming something this serious YET it's something they are not willing to die for... that still confuses me. Shit try being an "honorary" norteno down here. We'll see who the real gangster is. A real Norteno would claim it and never back down if they were hit up down here and I do believe that. Are you telling me some "freelance gangster" who doesnt even have a varrio is going to back up his unofficial gang if he gets hit up in LA? I know I always bring Los Angeles into this shit but a real ass Norteno wouldnt rank out anywhere and that is the most extreme case of all.
 
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LOL. NOW THAT 209"VET" HAS CYBER-BANGED ON ME...HES GOING TO PROCEED TO TELE-BANG ON ME. FUCKIN BITCH. "YO HOMIE WATCH OUT BEFORE I SMASH VIA THE PHONE."

LIL DEMON.....REGARDING YOUR FIRST REPLY. NO DISPESPECT MAN BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY AINT GOT YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. I SUGGEST YOU DONT SPEAK UNTIL YOU DO.

AL-KAHOLIC....YOURE RIGHT! ALL THE RILLAS THROW THEY SHIT UP ONLINE. CAUSE THAT MAKES YOU "REAL"....RIGHT?........ :rolleyes:

FATAL IM FEELIN WHAT YOU SAID. THA FACT THAT HIS HOMIEZ BANG IS TOTALLY ILLRELEVANT. HE ALSO TOLD ME "MY TOWN IS FULL OF REAL MOTHAFUCKAS WHO DONT BANG". AS IF I GIVE A FUCK. YOU JUST HAPPEN TO BE ONE OF THE FAKE ONES!!!!!

4 YOU DUMBFUCKZ WHO AINT GOT SHIT STRAIGHT YET CHOOSE TO SPEAK. I DID REPLY. I DID STATE WHERE I WAS FROM. LEADER EVEN REPEATED IT IN THE THREAD BY TRIPLEGOLD.
 
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YOU CAN BANG NORTE ON THE SOLO...BUT ID THINK YOUD HAVE TO BE MEXICAN/LATINO/CHCANO TO DO SO.......

CUZ A WHITE NORTENO BANGIN ON THE SOLO IS KIND OF UNOFFICIAL TO ME

MY HOMEBOY WACKOLOCS(RIP) WAZ A DOWN ASS HOMEBOY....DOWN ASS NORTENO..AND THO HE WAS AFFILIATED WITH HOMEBOYS FROM MANY SETS HE DIDNT BANG NOTHIN BUT NORTE...HE WAS ONLY 17 WHEN HE GOT KILLED...AND IT WASNT BY SCRAPS....JUST SOME OF OUR RIVALS...ILL BE DAMNED IF ANYBODY TELLS ME MY FOLKS WASNT A REAL NORTENO


BUT AS FAR AS YOUNGSTA MATT GOES...WE DONT KNOW HIM...THEREFORE WE SHOULDNT SPEAK ON WHO/WHAT HE IS...CUZ LIKE OSO LOC SAID...UNTIL YOU MEET THEM IN PERSON...YOULL NEVER KNOW HOW "REAL" THEY ARE
 
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^^^^thatz real shyt ryght there. took sum of tha wordz straight from my mouth (or fingerz).

az for tha dude who said not claimin a hood or set openz tha gatez for fakez....lyke i said before ENE, a fake NORTENO getz handled by real NORTENOZ. which preventz fakez from perpin. you wont understand till you've seen it dogg. truzt me tho, a fake getz handled, and handled savagely and quickly.

Leader, a real NORTENO will rep for tha NORTE in L.A. he wont rep for hiz hood. there'z no point in reppin your hood over tha NORTE cuz tha NORTE doeznt compete with eachother.surenoz down there rep their hood, thatz wut they are....hood gangzterz. they arent necessarily puttin it down for tha sur, they're puttin it down for their varrio. lyke i said, NORTE iz a movement, not juzt a "gang." itz not tha same az crip/blood or even sur. itz possible to be a REAL NORTENO (reppin for tha NORTE, puttin in work, bangin on scrapz) without havin to scream out a set or have a gang of homeboyz to back you up. in other wordz, you can bang on tha solo.
 

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^^^ exactly. A fake one would rank out the minute he got hit up because he has no loyalty. & yes I do realize Nortenos arent bangin their varrios but bangin NORTE, where it is the opposite here. All i was speakin on was on who would be most likely to rank out on it and thats the fools that arent actually in a neighborhood that "freelance gangbang" wherever they go.
 

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thats a trip about nortenos bangin without having a barrio. all the nortenos that I have known were all from specific barrios. i guess its all good now but i remember about 5 years ago nortenos would hit up other nortenos if they were strollin through their hood, and if they belonged to a gang they didnt get along with they would whoop on those fools. i havent been aroung any gangsters once i got out of school so maybe things just changed.
 

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and if the norteno movement is just that, a movement and not a gang with individual factions what is the point of having hoods?

and one more question. if anyone can claim Norte without belonging to a gang or a hood, doesnt that just promote wannabes? lets just say you did hit up another norteno, and you ask "where you from?" they say "salinas". okay your in salinas already then you ask "but what varrio?" and the guy says "i dont have a hood, i just claim salinas norte..." how do you know this guy just isnt a wannabe? for all you know he could be some fool from the suburbs trying to look hard. or maybe he is bangin on the solo, and hes the only one out of his friends that does this so when he gets fucked up by some surenos whos he gonna ask to have his back when its time to retaliate? what OGs will he have that will tell whats up?
 
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Alright Fatal I feel you...i'm from seattle so I don't know how shit operates down there, matter of fact i've never met a norteno in my life.....plenty of fools claim SUR up here tho i'll tell you that much.
 
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ALL THIS BANGIN ON THE SOLO IS ALL GOOD IN SOME AREAS I GUESS BUT I PUT THIS ON EVERYTHING...EVERY, AND I MEAN EVERY SO CALLED NORTENO THAT I OR ANY HOMEBOYZ OF MINE HAVE EVER COME IN CONTACT WITH THAT STATED THEY WAS JUST BANGIN NORTE OR JUST CLAIMIN AN ENTIRE CITY AND NOT A SPECIFIC VARRIO WERE LOOKED AT LIKE SOME SUCKAS, WANNABEE'S WITHOUT A HOME!! OR WHAT WE USE TO CALL THEM "WHAT-SIDERS" THERE'S NO VALIDATION FOR FOOLS THAT DON'T HAVE A VARRIO. JUST LIKE LEADER SAID..THEY LIKE "FREELANCE GANGSTERS". THE NORTE IS A MOVEMENT BUT WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN TO IT....WE ARE STREET SOLDIERS AND WE ALL REPRESENT DIFFERENT HOODS THAT WORK UNDER ONE YA FEEL. I UNDERSTAND WHEN SMALL TOWNS CAN HAVE JUST ONE GANG BUT WHEN YOU FROM A BIG CITY WITH LIKE 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT NORTE SETS WITHIN IT'S BOUNDARIES...HOW DOES THAT LOOK WHEN SOMENONE WALKS UP AND ISN'T CLAIMING ONE OF THEM SETS...BUT TRYIN TO BANG FOR THEM ALL...THAT'S A LOT TO SAY RIGHT THERE...SHIT JUST DON'T WORK IN MY EYES...I JUST CAN'T SEE IT..I CAN SEE HOW THERE COULD BE FOOLS BANGIN JUST NORTE NOW N DAYZ BECAUSE OF THE UNITY BUT I JUST HAVEN'T COME ACROSS IT YET.

EVEN WITH THE HOMEBOYZ I KICK IT WITH OUT HERE IN STOCKTON...STRAIGHT RIDIN ASS HOMEBOYZ...A GANG OF FOOLS FROM ALL DIFFERENT SETS THAT KICK IT TOGETHER...BUT YOU KNOW WHAT...THEY WILL ALL TELL YOU STRAIGHT UP WHAT VARRIO THEY REPPIN. WETHER IT'S NORTHSIDE, WEST SIDE OR WHATEVER....THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS...THERES EVEN HOMIE CLAIMIN "SN" STOCKTONE NORTE....FOOLS FROM ALL OVER STOCKTON THAT BANG "SN" TOGETHER...BUT AT LEAST THEY HAVE A VARRIO TO CLAIM....


AND AS FOR MATT...HE ALREADY TOLD ME WHAT SET HE'S BANGIN...I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ANTIOCH BUT I WILL BELEIVE THE HOMEBOY UNTIL PROVED OTHERWISE....SO THIS SHIT TALKIN BOUT MATT NEEDS TO CEASE..
 
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Jose said:
and if the norteno movement is just that, a movement and not a gang with individual factions what is the point of having hoods?
hoodz juzt establish where your from. your neighborhood, tha homiez u chill with.

and one more question. if anyone can claim Norte without belonging to a gang or a hood, doesnt that just promote wannabes?
i dont know how it workz everywhere, but where im from if ENEz feel sumone iz juzt perpin, they'll tell that suspect to carry out a tazk. if tha perp cant or wont do it, they get dealt with for bein a fake ass bytch. after that, i guarantee they'll never perp again.
lets just say you did hit up another norteno, and you ask "where you from?" they say "salinas". okay your in salinas already then you ask "but what varrio?" and the guy says "i dont have a hood, i just claim salinas norte..." how do you know this guy just isnt a wannabe?
lyke i said, if therez suspicion, you make that suspect carry out a tazk.

for all you know he could be some fool from the suburbs trying to look hard. or maybe he is bangin on the solo, and hes the only one out of his friends that does this so when he gets fucked up by some surenos whos he gonna ask to have his back when its time to retaliate? what OGs will he have that will tell whats up?
thatz a disadvantage of not havin a set. you get hit up, you either gotta rely on other NORTE setz to help your ass or u gotta handle it yourself.