Yo fuck the middle east and islam
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You're right about that. The "religion of peace" is known to kill people with a quickness.
At least I didn't draw a cartoon, so the death toll should be relatively low.
At least I didn't draw a cartoon, so the death toll should be relatively low.
America (Christianity) has been killlin since the begining over less......Almost all religion has been killing for stupid shit...To say fuck Islam is to broad and that means someone dosent know what they are talking about.....There are extremist in every religion....Faith..Belif..whatever you wanna call it....
First, America != Christianity
Second a member of a group doing something doesn't mean they did it in the name of their group. If a Hindu robs a store, it's just a guy robbing a store. If a Hindu robs a store and declares the action in his religion's name or quotes passages from his religious texts calling for robbery, then it's a "Hindu" crime.
So Americans who are Christian and kill people aren't doing it in the name of their god. It's not a "Christian Crime". Christians killing abortion doctors could be considered a "Christian Crime", but all mainstream branches of Christianity denounce those actions, and the teachings of Christ are 100% against killing.
Where Jesus talks about forgiving enemies and turning the other cheek. Mohamed talks about thing like:
killing apostates
Kill and enslave nonbelievers until they convert
Fight until your enemies convert or are subjugated
I don't give a fuck about extremest, they're an anomaly. I'm more concerned about "Fundamentalists". A true Christian fundamentalist follows the teachings of Christ and should act like Christ (you know, turning the other cheek, forgiving enemies, etc). An Islamic fundamentalist models their life after their prophet and is ordered to fight enemies until they convert or are subjugated (among other things that aren't so great for nonbelievers).
So what were you saying about not knowing what I'm talking about? Could it be that you were just regurgitating the feel-good misconception that "all religions are basically the same"?
If I still don't know what I'm talking about please enlighten me.
Yeah, so fuck Islam because Islam wants to fuck me (It wants to fuck you too if you're a nonbeliever).
Second a member of a group doing something doesn't mean they did it in the name of their group. If a Hindu robs a store, it's just a guy robbing a store. If a Hindu robs a store and declares the action in his religion's name or quotes passages from his religious texts calling for robbery, then it's a "Hindu" crime.
So Americans who are Christian and kill people aren't doing it in the name of their god. It's not a "Christian Crime". Christians killing abortion doctors could be considered a "Christian Crime", but all mainstream branches of Christianity denounce those actions, and the teachings of Christ are 100% against killing.
Where Jesus talks about forgiving enemies and turning the other cheek. Mohamed talks about thing like:
killing apostates
Kill and enslave nonbelievers until they convert
Fight until your enemies convert or are subjugated
I don't give a fuck about extremest, they're an anomaly. I'm more concerned about "Fundamentalists". A true Christian fundamentalist follows the teachings of Christ and should act like Christ (you know, turning the other cheek, forgiving enemies, etc). An Islamic fundamentalist models their life after their prophet and is ordered to fight enemies until they convert or are subjugated (among other things that aren't so great for nonbelievers).
So what were you saying about not knowing what I'm talking about? Could it be that you were just regurgitating the feel-good misconception that "all religions are basically the same"?
If I still don't know what I'm talking about please enlighten me.
Yeah, so fuck Islam because Islam wants to fuck me (It wants to fuck you too if you're a nonbeliever).
Well, luckily the vast majority of Muslims aren't fundamentalists. Just as the majority of Christians don't act in a Christ-like way, the majority of Muslims don't follow Islam to the letter or try to emulate Mohamed in every way.
You're right that the texts are around 1,400 years old. You and I, and (probably) the majority of Muslims can and do "Put things in its proper perspective". Unfortunately the fundamentalists treat it as if it was written yesterday. One example is child marriage.
Mohamed married his third wife, Aisha, when she was 6. According to the Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64" Now before people get upset let me say that Mohamed was not a pedophile. They did not exist back then. This was a standard practice, and there was nothing strange about it. Today, however, we have a different view on child marriage. We believe that having sex with children is wrong. Yet to this day in some "Islamic countries" the legal age of marriage for girls is 9 years old.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2872/is_1_27/ai_71563378/
The rational being "If Mohamed did it, it must be good". But most modern people believe something more along the lines of "It was OK back then, but now it's not".
There are many many reformers in Islam (like the ones in Iran trying to raise the legal age of marrage), unfortunately they fight an uphill battle because the religious texts go against many of the things we value in modern society (equal rights for women, freedom of religion, etc.). Some reformers, if they get too far out of line, just end up dead or exiled.
So, like I said, my issue is with Islam and not Muslims. I do have Muslim friends, but they drink beer so fundamentalists may not consider them "true Muslims". I do have Muslim coworkers who are some of the nicest people I work with. I just believe that the core their religion does more harm than good for humanity.
Most Muslims may be able to gloss over the parts about Dhimmitude and violence against unbelievers, while keeping the good parts. That doesn't change the fact that the core itself has some very nasty things for unbelievers, and fundamentalists are using them as justification for violence against others.
You're right that the texts are around 1,400 years old. You and I, and (probably) the majority of Muslims can and do "Put things in its proper perspective". Unfortunately the fundamentalists treat it as if it was written yesterday. One example is child marriage.
Mohamed married his third wife, Aisha, when she was 6. According to the Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64" Now before people get upset let me say that Mohamed was not a pedophile. They did not exist back then. This was a standard practice, and there was nothing strange about it. Today, however, we have a different view on child marriage. We believe that having sex with children is wrong. Yet to this day in some "Islamic countries" the legal age of marriage for girls is 9 years old.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2872/is_1_27/ai_71563378/
The rational being "If Mohamed did it, it must be good". But most modern people believe something more along the lines of "It was OK back then, but now it's not".
There are many many reformers in Islam (like the ones in Iran trying to raise the legal age of marrage), unfortunately they fight an uphill battle because the religious texts go against many of the things we value in modern society (equal rights for women, freedom of religion, etc.). Some reformers, if they get too far out of line, just end up dead or exiled.
So, like I said, my issue is with Islam and not Muslims. I do have Muslim friends, but they drink beer so fundamentalists may not consider them "true Muslims". I do have Muslim coworkers who are some of the nicest people I work with. I just believe that the core their religion does more harm than good for humanity.
Most Muslims may be able to gloss over the parts about Dhimmitude and violence against unbelievers, while keeping the good parts. That doesn't change the fact that the core itself has some very nasty things for unbelievers, and fundamentalists are using them as justification for violence against others.