WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU GUYS GET YOUR BULLSHIT INFO?!? THERE WAS NEVER ANY NORTHERNERS IN LOS ANGELES, BIG DOG... THE VARRIO THAT YOU MENTIONED IS STILL ACTIVE, AND IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AND HISTORIC VARRIOS IN L.A... THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ANYTHING BUT A SOLID ASS SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD... SOME OLDER HOMIES TOLD ME THAT WHEN THE NORTENO MOVEMENT FIRST BEGAN, THAT SOME NORTHERNERS TRIED TO ESTABLISH THEMSELVES IN SOME TOWNS IN CENTRAL AND NORTHERN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY... THE OUTCOME OF THOSE ENDEAVORS WASNT TOO SUCCESSFUL... OTHER THAN THAT, PLEASE DONT FOOL YOURSELVES INTO THINKIN NORTHERNERS EVER HAD, OR EVER WILL HAVE, AN ESTABLISHED PRESENCE IN SUR CAL...