Would you be OK with War if.........

[Mcleanhatch]

and more that half of blairs party members are oppose to the war.

where did you get those numbers from because they sure dont sound like these!


http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110003129
Belying claims that Prime Minister Tony Blair is in trouble, Britain's House of Commons yesterday gave his Iraq policy a strong vote of support. "Lawmakers by a vote of 434-124 approved a government-sponsored motion which backed the prime minister's efforts to resolve the crisis through the United Nations and called on Iraq 'to recognize this as its final opportunity' to disarm," the Associated Press reports from London. Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

Blair won these votes with the support of 77.8% and 66.4% of parliamentarians, respectively. That's a pretty convincing margin, but look how the left-wing media spin the story:

"Britain's Blair Suffers Parliament Revolt Over Iraq"--Reuters

"Blair Suffers Huge Revolt on Iraq"--CNN

"Revolt of the Backbenchers: Blair suffers biggest rebellion as 121 Labour MPs vote against war"--Independent

"Rebel Vote Stuns Blair"--Guardian

When Congress passed the Iraq war resolution in October, 77% of senators and 69% of House members voted "yes"--very close to the margins by which Blair prevailed in the Commons. We don't remember reading a lot of stories back then about the "huge revolt" against President Bush.


note these votes amoung british house

1. Britain's House of Commons yesterday gave his Iraq policy a strong vote of support. "Lawmakers by a vote of 434-124 approved a government-sponsored motion which backed the prime minister's efforts to resolve the crisis through the United Nations

2. Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

 

[phil]

again mclean, avoid facts, you might fog up the liberal viewpoint

i dont remember who it was, snubnoze or 20sixx, but one of them said in a post that the biggest problem with conservatives is they use logic. lol i still cant get over that.

 

[nefar559]

where did you get those numbers from because they sure dont sound like these!


http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110003129
Belying claims that Prime Minister Tony Blair is in trouble, Britain's House of Commons yesterday gave his Iraq policy a strong vote of support. "Lawmakers by a vote of 434-124 approved a government-sponsored motion which backed the prime minister's efforts to resolve the crisis through the United Nations and called on Iraq 'to recognize this as its final opportunity' to disarm," the Associated Press reports from London. Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

Blair won these votes with the support of 77.8% and 66.4% of parliamentarians, respectively. That's a pretty convincing margin, but look how the left-wing media spin the story:

"Britain's Blair Suffers Parliament Revolt Over Iraq"--Reuters

"Blair Suffers Huge Revolt on Iraq"--CNN

"Revolt of the Backbenchers: Blair suffers biggest rebellion as 121 Labour MPs vote against war"--Independent

"Rebel Vote Stuns Blair"--Guardian

When Congress passed the Iraq war resolution in October, 77% of senators and 69% of House members voted "yes"--very close to the margins by which Blair prevailed in the Commons. We don't remember reading a lot of stories back then about the "huge revolt" against President Bush.


note these votes amoung british house

1. Britain's House of Commons yesterday gave his Iraq policy a strong vote of support. "Lawmakers by a vote of 434-124 approved a government-sponsored motion which backed the prime minister's efforts to resolve the crisis through the United Nations

2. Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

@mcleanhatch, and phil

that still doesn't disprove my statement.

LMAO, you guys are somethjing else. LMAO

and on the article it mentions, the leftwing media, but yet it
doesn't say anything as to why they stated those statements.

LMAO

 

[Knucklez]

@mcleanhatch, and phil

that still doesn't disprove my statement.

LMAO, you guys are somethjing else. LMAO

and on the article it mentions, the leftwing media, but yet it
doesn't say anything as to why they stated those statements.

LMAO

LOL.. keep pretending like your word is a factor here man.. you wont even give credit to people when they top you.. you resort to name calling.. some debater you are.. I swear to God, if I got into a debate with you in person, I would not only show you up, I'd most likely make you cry. And so would mclean, phil, gizmo.. All these people would.. because without your propaganda and your commuist friend, your nothing on the scale of debate.

Again.. you make yourself and liberials look really bad.. you should leave serious debating on this level to left wingers like Blight, who can really hold a valid argument.. you've lost way too much respect..

 

[2-0-Sixx]

again mclean, avoid facts, you might fog up the liberal viewpoint

i dont remember who it was, snubnoze or 20sixx, but one of them said in a post that the biggest problem with conservatives is they use logic. lol i still cant get over that.

It definately was not me that said that. LOL, if only the conservatives did use logic!!!

P.S
I doubt snubnoze said that either.

 

[nefar559]

LOL.. keep pretending like your word is a factor here man.. you wont even give credit to people when they top you.. you resort to name calling.. some debater you are.. I swear to God, if I got into a debate with you in person, I would not only show you up, I'd most likely make you cry. And so would mclean, phil, gizmo.. All these people would.. because without your propaganda and your commuist friend, your nothing on the scale of debate.

Again.. you make yourself and liberials look really bad.. you should leave serious debating on this level to left wingers like Blight, who can really hold a valid argument.. you've lost way too much respect..

2 paragraphs of more CRAP
u must be the idiot of the 4 right wingers on this forum.
the opionion section of the wsj stated:

"Lawmakers by a vote of 434-124 approved a government-sponsored motion which backed the prime minister's efforts to resolve the crisis through the United Nations and called on Iraq 'to recognize this as its final opportunity' to disarm," the Associated Press reports from London. Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

Blair won these votes with the support of 77.8% and 66.4%"

these votes went to sponsor the crisis with the UN. not
an ATTACK,!!!!!!

this doesn't disprove my statement

Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

Another motion, stating that "the case for military action against Iraq [is] as yet unproven," was voted down, 393-199.

read;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,904700,00.html

 

[nefar559]

some debater you are.. I swear to God, if I got into a debate with you in person, I would not only show you up, I'd most likely make you cry. And so would mclean, phil, gizmo.. All these people would.. because without your propaganda and your commuist friend, your nothing on the scale of debate.

LMAO, sure whatever...LMAO!! and your a better one with a
paragraph OF CRAP....can't even disprove my statement

Again.. you make yourself and liberials look really bad.. you should leave serious debating on this level to left wingers like Blight, who can really hold a valid argument.. you've lost way too much respect..

more of Knucklez's crap (or in Knucklez's mind, a good debate)
LMAO

 

[phil]

one of yall said that in a recent post.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

Phil, i think it was snubnoze

 

[KleanKut]

aight well ima kill this. This will be on going.... both sides have polls on the same thing that say diff shit. the strongest thing to defeat or change is an idea. u wil belive what u want. Thats the beauty of this country. And i am prepared to die defending it. Are you?? dont give me some BS answer. actually think about it. Are you willing to look someone in the eyes and kill them to defend the freedoms of people u will never know people u love and peaople u hate. if u arnt it doesnt mean u are a pussy, we werent all put here to do that. so please do not bad mouth or look down on the ones put on this earth to do so. thats my $.02

 

[The Duke of Earl]

And alote of people didnt want to get rid of hitler either.

oh and by the way since you say alote of people dont want the war can you answer something for me?

hitler declared war on the US first , he was bombing american ships that were bringing in goods for the english people still didn't want to enter war but after hitler declared war on the US wich was retarded but good in the eyes of the japanese becuz it would spread out american troops americans changed there minds

 

[The Duke of Earl]

@klean kut i'll defend myself and my own til the death call me selfish but i don't think the leaders of this country give a shit about me or you

 

[2-0-Sixx]

How can we fight for freedom when we dont even have it?

 

[Mcleanhatch]

hitler declared war on the US first , he was bombing american ships that were bringing in goods for the english people

And isnt Iraq shooting at UN fighter jets who are patroling the no-fly zone in northern and southern Iraq.

 

[KleanKut]

How can we fight for freedom when we dont even have it?

the fact that you can say that and 1/2 the other shit on this boerd u say proives it. most other countries ESPECIALY Iraq and china u and your family would be shot dead.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

the fact that you can say that and 1/2 the other shit on this boerd u say proives it. most other countries ESPECIALY Iraq and china u and your family would be shot dead.

after being tortured for an unspecified amount of time

 

[drankedout]

the fact that you can say that and 1/2 the other shit on this boerd u say proives it. most other countries ESPECIALY Iraq and china u and your family would be shot dead.

Just because we dont get tortured doesnt mean we have a perfect country. We have a really really good deal here a lot better then most places, on some issues. But at the same time theres a lot of fucked up shit that goes on. And I would rather speak up on it and try to fix it then let it go unnoticed. If we want to help these other countrys out to make them more like us, war is simply not the way to do it. If we want to help out the Iraqi people bombing them is the wrong way. Dropping bombs isnt gonna help shit. Nothing we do is gonna help shit. All it is going to do is make more people over there hate us, thus making more of terrorists.

 

[Mcleanhatch]

Nothing we do is gonna help shit. All it is going to do is make more people over there hate us, thus making more of terrorists.

They already hate us. they cant hate us more than they already do in the middle-east. but after we liberate the Iraqi people some of our credibility in that region will be restored

 

[The Duke of Earl]

And isnt Iraq shooting at UN fighter jets who are patroling the no-fly zone in northern and southern Iraq.

did saddam actually declare war no dumb ass , hitler did he was pressured from the japanese


don't twist my words around either, you did it again fuck face

 

[drankedout]

They already hate us

Wrong. My uncle lives in Jordan and has been all over the middle east. and he is american. From what he has told me the majority of the people there like americans.