WOODIE DA REASON Y N-RIDAZ IS DOWN????
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THIS WAS POSTED IN THE BART FORUM, FELT IT APPLIED TO THIS THREAD AS WELL....BY THE WAY NEWARKKILLA4NIA, CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE FUCKIN' THREAD 'CAUSE I DIDN'T ASK ANYTHING OF THE SORT WHEN IT COMES TO TAKIN' DOWN NRIDAZ....GIMME A BREAK WITH YOUR FALSE INSINUATIONS
Posted by Kerry for Ryan:
Yo, I just want to let everyone know that I never asked SadClown to take down northen-ridaz.com. I also never said that the site does not help out artists. I never mentioned anything at all about lawyers,suing or anything like that. I didn't come at Sadclown all crazy. I may have been a little upset but I was polite. I like Northern-Ridaz and a few of my own employees use the site on a regular basis. Also I know people go to rapbay via a link from the Northern-Ridaz site because I can see it in my traffic log. Im sure some of those resulted in sales and I want norther-ridaz.com to make money off of that.
But I just feel that northern-ridaz.com should start to work more direct with labels, artists, companies, etc... If the label, artist, company wants NR to put up the whole album up then so be it that is Great. But some labels dont want their whole album up. I would rather Northern-ridaz work together with rapbay or whoever, but more like an info site that has samples of tracks (maybe even 2 full tracks) (full albums if thats what the artist wants), art work, interviews, bios, shows, etc. That would be VERY beneficial for the whole industry not just rap fans. When NR hosts Full length albums up for everyone to enjoy, its not right. It not only affects Rapbay but the whole rap industry. We work hard everyday, just like you, to bring you the BEST rap music in the world. I am not some guy who just decided that putting the entire album up is wrong. If you go to www.rapbay.com you can see who we are working with, and its more than likely that we are working with the artist directly. Some frustrated artists have called me directly to ask wha'ts going on with northern-ridaz and if I'm the one who is sending them the whole album to post up.
I don't want to make any enemies but if protecting artists rights is wrong to some people then I guess some people are not going to like me. And for rapbay, its a community of Labels, Rappers, Djs, Companies, Etc. that sell on our site. By telling people Rapbay.com (Ryan) shut down northern-ridaz.com (False) and telling people not to buy or support them is not helping out anyone.
A few people have told me Northern-Ridaz does not make any money off of the site and that Sadclown spends his personal time maintaining the site. We appreciate his hard work and our mutual love for the Bay. We strongly feel that the northern-ridaz site should definitely give out music samples instead of hosting the WHOLE album. After I emailed sadclown, he made the choice to take down his site. I then thought it was because he wanted his site to start making money. He knows that by doing this, Northern-ridaz would increase its value. (I could be wrong) Of course rapbay makes money but most of it goes to the artist, labels, companies selling products, advertising, hosting fees, rent for storage, you name it .Trust me, after paying off everyone, theres not that as much money left over as you might think.
I love the rap fans because they are the ones that keep the industry running and more than that, they are family. I appreciate and thank any fan, artist or label that has bought a CD, DVD, T-shirt or whatever it may be on Rapbay.com. I also appreciate the business we receive from being linked from northern-ridaz. I am also appreciative when an artist,label or any other person chooses to bring to me a CD, DVD, or clothing to sell because that what I do best. And if you passed out a flyer that said RAPBAY on it then GREAT and all of you are family. This is my life and every rap fan that buys from RAPBAY or not will always mean a lot to me. I wish i could satisfy everyone but I think if Northen-ridaz does this, it will not only benefit rap fans but help keep the rap industry alive.
I have helped the rap industry since 1992, over 12 years. I worked for Tower Records for over 5 years as the rap buyer, I worked at Music People/ In a Minute Records for 5 years. I also have worked for Sony Music New York for 3 years. I worked for Urbanlife for over 3 years before being the co-owner and I've been co-owner of rapbay since day 1 for 2 years; not to mention numerous promotion companies and shows I've helped out on. Ive definitely done my part and have put my whole life into this game. I am still here and let me tell you, there aren't too many people left from when I first started in the rap game. There is a reason. I'm Honest, Trustworthy and I am always true to the game.
Think what you want, but I'm not in this for myself. You can ask anyone I work with. This is what I do, my life. After I received my first rap tapes( run dmc and LL cool J) back in 86 at 9 yrs old, I fell in love with rap. Since then, I have worked almost everyday to gain my spot in the rap industry.
In conclusion, I would like to see northern ridaz work more directly with Rapbay.com
Peace Out
check our site www.rapbay.com
Ryan
and from Kerry...Why can't we just all get along...LOL!
and i must add
The industry isn't healthy right now, this is just one example as to why...
Oh, and by the way....What's that cologne you got on????
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Posted by Kerry for Ryan:
Yo, I just want to let everyone know that I never asked SadClown to take down northen-ridaz.com. I also never said that the site does not help out artists. I never mentioned anything at all about lawyers,suing or anything like that. I didn't come at Sadclown all crazy. I may have been a little upset but I was polite. I like Northern-Ridaz and a few of my own employees use the site on a regular basis. Also I know people go to rapbay via a link from the Northern-Ridaz site because I can see it in my traffic log. Im sure some of those resulted in sales and I want norther-ridaz.com to make money off of that.
But I just feel that northern-ridaz.com should start to work more direct with labels, artists, companies, etc... If the label, artist, company wants NR to put up the whole album up then so be it that is Great. But some labels dont want their whole album up. I would rather Northern-ridaz work together with rapbay or whoever, but more like an info site that has samples of tracks (maybe even 2 full tracks) (full albums if thats what the artist wants), art work, interviews, bios, shows, etc. That would be VERY beneficial for the whole industry not just rap fans. When NR hosts Full length albums up for everyone to enjoy, its not right. It not only affects Rapbay but the whole rap industry. We work hard everyday, just like you, to bring you the BEST rap music in the world. I am not some guy who just decided that putting the entire album up is wrong. If you go to www.rapbay.com you can see who we are working with, and its more than likely that we are working with the artist directly. Some frustrated artists have called me directly to ask wha'ts going on with northern-ridaz and if I'm the one who is sending them the whole album to post up.
I don't want to make any enemies but if protecting artists rights is wrong to some people then I guess some people are not going to like me. And for rapbay, its a community of Labels, Rappers, Djs, Companies, Etc. that sell on our site. By telling people Rapbay.com (Ryan) shut down northern-ridaz.com (False) and telling people not to buy or support them is not helping out anyone.
A few people have told me Northern-Ridaz does not make any money off of the site and that Sadclown spends his personal time maintaining the site. We appreciate his hard work and our mutual love for the Bay. We strongly feel that the northern-ridaz site should definitely give out music samples instead of hosting the WHOLE album. After I emailed sadclown, he made the choice to take down his site. I then thought it was because he wanted his site to start making money. He knows that by doing this, Northern-ridaz would increase its value. (I could be wrong) Of course rapbay makes money but most of it goes to the artist, labels, companies selling products, advertising, hosting fees, rent for storage, you name it .Trust me, after paying off everyone, theres not that as much money left over as you might think.
I love the rap fans because they are the ones that keep the industry running and more than that, they are family. I appreciate and thank any fan, artist or label that has bought a CD, DVD, T-shirt or whatever it may be on Rapbay.com. I also appreciate the business we receive from being linked from northern-ridaz. I am also appreciative when an artist,label or any other person chooses to bring to me a CD, DVD, or clothing to sell because that what I do best. And if you passed out a flyer that said RAPBAY on it then GREAT and all of you are family. This is my life and every rap fan that buys from RAPBAY or not will always mean a lot to me. I wish i could satisfy everyone but I think if Northen-ridaz does this, it will not only benefit rap fans but help keep the rap industry alive.
I have helped the rap industry since 1992, over 12 years. I worked for Tower Records for over 5 years as the rap buyer, I worked at Music People/ In a Minute Records for 5 years. I also have worked for Sony Music New York for 3 years. I worked for Urbanlife for over 3 years before being the co-owner and I've been co-owner of rapbay since day 1 for 2 years; not to mention numerous promotion companies and shows I've helped out on. Ive definitely done my part and have put my whole life into this game. I am still here and let me tell you, there aren't too many people left from when I first started in the rap game. There is a reason. I'm Honest, Trustworthy and I am always true to the game.
Think what you want, but I'm not in this for myself. You can ask anyone I work with. This is what I do, my life. After I received my first rap tapes( run dmc and LL cool J) back in 86 at 9 yrs old, I fell in love with rap. Since then, I have worked almost everyday to gain my spot in the rap industry.
In conclusion, I would like to see northern ridaz work more directly with Rapbay.com
Peace Out
check our site www.rapbay.com
Ryan
and from Kerry...Why can't we just all get along...LOL!
and i must add
The industry isn't healthy right now, this is just one example as to why...
Oh, and by the way....What's that cologne you got on????
__________________
Urbanlife Music & Video Distribution
[email protected]
RAPBAY.COM
[email protected]
THIS SHITS A WRAP, I'DE QUIT EXPLAINING SHIT TO WOODIE ABOUT THE LO QUALITY, IT DOESNT MATTER, ITS HIS MUSIC PERIOD, AND IF HE DOESNT WANT WHOLE ALBUMS UP DONT PUT THE FULL ALBUM UP. AND IF BLEGIT AND YUK OR WHOEVER ASKED TO PUT SNIPPETS UP AND NOT WHOLE ALBUMS DONT DO THA SHIT. KEEP IT THORO MY NIGS
Too many people takin shit waaaay outta context. Some artists want clips of songs, others dont mind. N-Ridaz is off the hook, Ive sent them cds before to put up. I checked that site all the time to preview shit so I love it as a fan, Sadclown did a hell of a job. But why do so many people that dont know all the facts blame all of this on Ryan of Rapbay? Shits classic. Its like a story told between two people that keeps being told, it gets bigger and bigger until its not even close to the real story.
Rumors spread faster than hos, I swear. I don't see no threats about lawyers, gettin the site shut down or non of that bullshit anywhere. An artist has his rights to his music, PERIOD! Especially one with an actual fan-base. Who knows and who cares what reasons they have, even if it's a half-ass album, the artist still has his rights to his hustle. What's so hard to understand? I'm sure SadClown understands this to the fullest, he just wasn't feeling the way he was approached by a couple of cats about it. Oh well, charge it to the game people, keep it movin!
C
its 2:45am...i read all this shit and im like....who's the winner and who's the baby?...
N-Ridaz is a great website to hear albums before or after they dropped...i've copped quite a few old and new albums because of that site...i listen to them..then i go buy them....
i dont think any net-nerds would try to actually record something from that site..it's low shitty quality...i understand where woodie and other artist are coming from...but you all gotta understand..the homie sadclown is promoting your albums for free...and people dont have to buy the albums off of the site..i personally dont buy nothing from the net....i go to the store and get them there...all Northern Expozure albums i own were bought at rasputins...most of my collection has been bought there...really tho...Sadclown put the site back up.....try getting in contact with some of these artist...let them know wussup.....I FULLY SUPPORT N-RIDAZ TO THE FULLEST!!!
N-Ridaz is a great website to hear albums before or after they dropped...i've copped quite a few old and new albums because of that site...i listen to them..then i go buy them....
i dont think any net-nerds would try to actually record something from that site..it's low shitty quality...i understand where woodie and other artist are coming from...but you all gotta understand..the homie sadclown is promoting your albums for free...and people dont have to buy the albums off of the site..i personally dont buy nothing from the net....i go to the store and get them there...all Northern Expozure albums i own were bought at rasputins...most of my collection has been bought there...really tho...Sadclown put the site back up.....try getting in contact with some of these artist...let them know wussup.....I FULLY SUPPORT N-RIDAZ TO THE FULLEST!!!
I used and supported NR.com. Ive paid for banner space last year and had our album up and gave them premission to put full clips. On a weekly id check out whats coming and whats out which was a plus to the at home consumer. Shit it convinced me to get B-legits new album after hearing it track by track. I can honestly say i would of never thought of picking it up.
but the bottom line is :
Online piracy is the unauthorized uploading of a copyrighted sound recording and making it available to the public, or downloading a sound recording from an Internet site, even if the recording isn't resold. Online piracy may now also include certain uses of "streaming" technologies from the Internet.
http://www.riaa.com/issues/piracy/default.asp
but the bottom line is :
Online piracy is the unauthorized uploading of a copyrighted sound recording and making it available to the public, or downloading a sound recording from an Internet site, even if the recording isn't resold. Online piracy may now also include certain uses of "streaming" technologies from the Internet.
http://www.riaa.com/issues/piracy/default.asp
I BARELY HEARD OF NORTHERN-RIDAZ WHEN TANK POSTED UP THAT YOU CAN HEAR HARD HOOD CLASSICS ON THERE, AND TELL YOU THE TRUTH I CALLED LIL CONER AND TOLD HIM "A THEY GOT YOUR WHOLE ALBUM ON THERE, WHATS UP WITH THAT" I AS A BUSINESS MAN DONT LIKE THE IDEA OF THE WHOLE ALBUM BE EXPOSED, IF YOU GO ON MYSPACE I ONLY GOT 5 MINUTE SNIPPETS OF OUR CD'S. I SUPPORT ANYONE TRYING TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT BUT ASK PERMISSION FIRST, CAUSE I KNOW IF "SPEEDY LOC-STILL CALI THUUGIN" WAS ON THERE, I 'LL BE PISSED OFF! I SURE IF YOU ASK MANY WILL BE WILLING TO WORK AN ARRANGEMENT, LIKE US I MAKE "SNIPPETS" FOR EVERY ALBUM I RELEASE JUST FOR SITES LIKE THIS.
BUGSY - STARZ THE LIMIT
BUGSY - STARZ THE LIMIT
Yea But Atleast The Artist Show Luv Homie These Other Vatos At RIAA Are Corporate Big-Wigz That Dont Even Care Bout The Music. But What Do I Know Let The Artist Speak There Mind: U All In It For The Music & Fans And The Money Helps or Juz The Money? Remebr Where u all Came From That Lil Azz Studio Or In The Homiez Backyard Spittin Fire For Fun Carnalez
I LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THE WHOLE PRESENTATION OF A CD WHEN THEY GET IT, THE COVER, CREDITS, MUSIC QUALITY, EVERYTHING I PUT INTO IT NOT JUST THE MUSIC FROM A DOWNLOAD, SUPPORT NOW A DAYS IS NOT THE SAME. HOMIES I KNOW CHECK FOOLS FOR A BURNT HOMIE CD. I PUT MONEY IN MAKING CDS, I TAKE A BIG LOST BEFORE RELEASING AN ALBUM. RESPECT THAT AND DON'T BURN CDS.
2 all the people here trying to speak on Wood, when you have NO KNOWLEDGE of what went down should just stop. If he does not want his music on the net like that, THEN THATS HIS BUSINESS. I'm sure woodie has spent lots of MONEY and TIME on this project, and i would be pissed too if these bitchmade bootleggers were jacking my shit too. And if he gave specific instructions to sadclown about how he wanted NE6 posted up, and those orders werent followed through, then who's fault is it??
I agree though that this rapbay dude could have handled this situation alot better, and COULD be doing alot to help sadclown change the format, i myselft have donated money to the site in the past and will do so again. INSTEAD OF CRYING LETS ALL HELP THIS SITE GET BACK UP AND STARTED IN A MAJOR WAY!! im sure all of this controversy is gonna help lead more visitors to N-Ridaz in the future.
I agree though that this rapbay dude could have handled this situation alot better, and COULD be doing alot to help sadclown change the format, i myselft have donated money to the site in the past and will do so again. INSTEAD OF CRYING LETS ALL HELP THIS SITE GET BACK UP AND STARTED IN A MAJOR WAY!! im sure all of this controversy is gonna help lead more visitors to N-Ridaz in the future.
lol, that 221 downloads is not from n-ridaz. That's from an IRC channel. He was trying to show that if people are going to bootleg the CD, they're not going to get it from some shitty quality rm file from a website that is doing more good in promotion.
If people don't want their CD up they have every right to request their artist cd's not to be online. But it's not n-ridaz job to follow your rules, asking him to remove a CD does work. But people still want that free promotion so they're trying to demand snippets only. If people still want to be promoted FOR FREE ON SOMEONE ELSES DIME there's no doubt they can work out an agreement with n-ridaz where they're sent snippet cd's, it's not n-ridaz job to do YOUR WORK. Quit with the bullshit and act like a business if you want your business respected.
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