WI's governor has promised to use the National Guard against workers

[ColdBlooded]

The newly elected governor of WI has proposed a bill to remove collective bargaining rights from all state union employees. This means nearly 100,000 teachers (these are some of the state union employees affected, but not the only ones) will no longer have the right to negotiate their contracts with the local school boards. The bill is going to pass the legislative chamber of WI's government this week or next.

So if these workers attempt to walk out or strike in protest of this law the governor has said he will call out the National Guard to replace and put down the workers.

Yesterday a number of city school systems were closed as teachers held a coordinated sick day call in (teacher strikes are already illegal). 20,000 people marched on the capitol.

Today the UW system will effectively be shut as the teaching assistants are going to "reschedule" or teach class off campus (The university of wisconsin has the oldest graduate assistant teachers union in the world). And the public school teachers across the state are doing coordinate sick day call ins. Most schools around the state are going to be closed today. Tomorrow looks to be like all the schools will be closed.

Teachers are the most public victims of this bill, but not the only ones affected. All state union employees, except for local Fire and Police, will no longer have the right to negotiate for pay or benefits or retirement. But that leaves UW and Capitol police officers and Department of Motor Vehicles field agents, non-law enforcement jail personnel and state prison guards, out in the cold.


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Here are some articles if you are interested

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/editorial/article_61064e9a-27b0-5f28-b6d1-a57c8b2aaaf6.html
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/16/walker-reiterates-threat/
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_313c3032-3a00-11e0-a121-001cc4c03286.html
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_056546c2-388b-11e0-8f1e-001cc4c03286.html
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_f781c134-3880-11e0-92b1-001cc4c002e0.html
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_979fd798-385c-11e0-b233-001cc4c03286.html

 

[fillyacup]

in a sense this is fucking boolchit, in another some of these people make way to much comfy wise..hell, california alone has a pension problem that no one seems to notice on capitol hill..

teachers deserve they pay most of the time, just not when its outrageously crazy..they do good give them a star by their name on the check

 

[Mcthuggin99]

fuck this dude man

In a gathering Wednesday night at Milwaukee's Fratney School, board President Michael Bonds said MPS could face huge cuts in programs and the loss of a quarter of its current revenue if things officials are being told about Walker's budget proposals are true and if they are adopted.
"I would use the word devastating," Bonds told an angry crowd of about 200 at Fratney, 3255 N. Fratney St. "It's devastating to school districts across the state," and MPS will feel the impact more than other districts.
"There's going to be major cuts, school closures, school mergers, if the governor's budget is approved," Bonds told the crowd. "When you're talking about losing close to $300 million, everything is on the table."
"The education we know in Milwaukee will no longer exist," if what officials have been told will be in Walker's budget proposal comes to pass, Bonds told the crowd.
"It may be the end of MPS, I can't dispute that."
Bonds' warnings came as groups that represent teachers and administrators warned their members that schools could face cuts of $900 million in the budget Walker will deliver Tuesday.

this is bullshit to the students too. mergers? i was in these schools a few years ago, the schools were already packed then from other school closings. the governor is gonna fuck it all up for them.

 

[fillyacup]

all this while people are still interested in jersey shore, american idol and whatever boolchit is on t.v.

breach public rights and privace
cut schooling
??????
white collar upper class profit

edit:

after looking at he first link, FUCK THIS GUY.

piece of shit

EDIT2:

fuck this guy.."13,000 protesters isnt enough because there 5.5 million in the state"....?

what a joke..13k protesters should warrent them a fucking prize for gathering that many people for a cause.

Walker also dismissed the huge numbers of protesters, saying that the number of participants (reportedly 13,000) was not significant because there are “about 5.5 million people in the state.” Watch it:



lol at a work walk-off being compared to a natural disaster.

 

[ColdBlooded]

in a sense this is fucking boolchit, in another some of these people make way to much comfy wise..hell, california alone has a pension problem that no one seems to notice on capitol hill..

teachers deserve they pay most of the time, just not when its outrageously crazy..they do good give them a star by their name on the check

The problem is with this bill neither side will be debatable anymore. If the budget crisis in Wisconsin were as bad as the gov. says it is, which it isn’t, the unions would have to make concessions in health insurance and pensions and have already said they would. The bill removes the union’s ability to bargain their contracts. So in effect it destroys the unions, they will be around in name only, but with no control over their future. This is bad for the state because it will discourage people from working in the public sector where the trade off is usually lower pay, but better benefits. Now it will be lower pay and lower benefits.

The governor and the legislature are not taking pay cuts, they are not taking pension cuts, they are not taking health care cuts. If that’s what you want to do, lead by example and show us that it isn’t as bad as we know it is.

fuck this guy.."13,000 protesters isnt enough because there 5.5 million in the state"....?

I agree with Gov. Walker it isn’t enough. But today and tomorrow will be larger. Schools and Universities are closed. Protests are happening in cities across the state today for those that can’t make it to Madison.

But the numbers today will still not be enough. The bill is going to pass. They need to use these protests to raise awareness and to organize their response and build some solidarity and a plan on what they are going to do once it passes.

My personal hope is they shut the state down or attempt to and make Walker call the National Guard. Make other unions strike in solidarity. But I don’t think that will happen. The unions will break and Walker will win without a fight.

 

[fillyacup]

The governor and the legislature are not taking pay cuts, they are not taking pension cuts, they are not taking health care cuts. If that’s what you want to do, lead by example and show us that it isn’t as bad as we know it is.

exactly. there was an article recently in the chronicle pertaining to the penisions of cali legislators..one was quoted to saying something about she will take a cut but part of the deal is she wants it all back when the economy gets better.

something along the lines of making 100k+ a year

ya, fuck you to bitch.



i see what your saying about numbers..and your right, the numbers wont mean anything. the citizens of that state will be strong armed to deal with this as if it were the mob making a shop owner pay for more protection..terry malloy dont live in the cheese state unfortunately..

 

[Count_Slapula]

lol at a work walk-off being compared to a natural disaster.

Kids daily dose of bullshit is very important breh

Calling in the national guard is fucking sick, it was only a matter of time though..

Next years resolution: Exterminating bums that pollute our streets

 

[Fucky McFuckerson]

SMH @ NFL bench warmers making 10X as much as public school teachers.

Talk about a backasswards society we live in.

 

[Legman]

leave it to the FIAT money system and corporate fat cats to run this country

and this is the end result...

thank you J.D. Rockafella you dickhead

 

[fillyacup]

SMH @ NFL bench warmers making 10X as much as public school teachers.

Talk about a backasswards society we live in.

Hey, as he says..the lombardi trophy is back..why are the people so upset? greedy bastids


:dead:

 

[ColdBlooded]

SMH @ NFL bench warmers making 10X as much as public school teachers.
Talk about a backasswards society we live in.

Hey, as he says..the lombardi trophy is back..why are the people so upset? greedy bastids
:dead:

Current and former Green Bay Packers have come out against the bill

"We know that it is teamwork on and off the field that makes the Packers and Wisconsin great. As a publicly owned team we wouldn't have been able to win the Super Bowl without the support of our fans.

"It is the same dedication of our public workers every day that makes Wisconsin run. They are the teachers, nurses and child care workers who take care of us and our families. But now in an unprecedented political attack Governor Walker is trying to take away their right to have a voice and bargain at work.

"The right to negotiate wages and benefits is a fundamental underpinning of our middle class. When workers join together it serves as a check on corporate power and helps ALL workers by raising community standards. Wisconsin's long standing tradition of allowing public sector workers to have a voice on the job has worked for the state since the 1930s. It has created greater consistency in the relationship between labor and management and a shared approach to public work.

"These public workers are Wisconsin's champions every single day and we urge the Governor and the State Legislature to not take away their rights."

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/116231984.html

 

[fillyacup]

I read that..but all thats fine and dandy for them to speak out but what is being done..?

they can 'urge' all they want..what would be awesome is if they the players went on strike..as a team. and not conveniently as lockout talks continue

 

[TrøLL]

ahh yes, i remember posting these types of threads years ago and being called a conspiracy theorist.

 

[BOOBOO619]

You win some, you lose some. They got the Lombardi, so it compensates for this.


haha jk, this is completely fucked up. If it passes and the teachers eventually cave in, look for this to spread to other states.


I think if this happened in Cali though, we'd be throwing it down, burning shit and what not. Wouldn't be a nice site.

 

[SeriouslyThug]

MADISON, Wisconsin — Police officers were dispatched Thursday to find Wisconsin state lawmakers who had apparently boycotted a vote on a sweeping bill that would strip most government workers of their collective bargaining rights.

The lawmakers, all Democrats in the state Senate, did not show up when they were ordered to attend a midday vote on the legislation.

The proposal has been the focus of intense protests at the Statehouse for three days. As Republicans tried to begin Senate business Thursday, observers in the gallery screamed "Freedom! Democracy! Unions!"

Republicans hold a 19-14 majority, but they need at least one Democrat to be present before taking a vote on the bill.

"Today they checked out, and I'm not sure where they're at," Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald said. "This is the ultimate shutdown, what we're seeing today."

Democratic Minority Leader Mark Miller released a statement on behalf of all Democrats urging Gov. Scott Walker and Republicans to listen to opponents of the measure and seek a compromise. His statement did not address where Democrats were or when they planned to return.

Bill opponents in the Senate gallery cheered when Senate President Mike Ellis announced that there were not enough senators present to proceed.

The bill came to the Senate after the Legislature's budget committee endorsed it just before midnight Wednesday.

Walker and Republican leaders have said they have the votes to pass the plan.

That didn't stop thousands of protesters from clogging the hallway outside the Senate chamber beating on drums, holding signs deriding Walker and pleading for lawmakers to kill the bill. Protesters also demonstrated outside the homes of some lawmakers.

Hundreds of teachers called in sick, forcing a number of school districts to cancel classes. Madison schools, the state's second-largest district with 24,000 students, closed for a second day as teachers poured into the Capitol.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-naw-wisconsin-protests-021711,0,1670806.story

 

[TrøLL]

It seriously just doesn't suprise me anymore. sad to say.

 

[Rossibreath]

Shot out to Scott Walker for declaring 2 weather state of emergencies this winter and getting me 2 free sick days at work.

 

[ColdBlooded]

Look out God. Scott Walker controls the weather now too

 

[0R0]

ahh yes, i remember posting these types of threads years ago and being called a conspiracy theorist.

It went mainstream.

 

[AKAZIE]

and this my friends is how it all starts. i'm glad i got guns.