so many questions few answers. ok answer this please, ok when we learn stuff in history class we always look at the "white man's" views. when america was founded it is looked at as a great time and everything went good. but in reality it wasnt. native americans were killed, raped, and their lands taken. africans were enslaved, moved from their homelands and tortured. and let me remind u ppl that i'm half white and half filipino. portugese tried to explore the philippines and Magellan was killed by my hero LapuLapu, i hope i spelled that right. but he was still credited for sailing around the world. and the "white man" wasnt the only beings to conquer and destroy other cultures. the spanish wiped out the Incas and destroyed the Aztec ppl. all these ppl are still around but it will never be the same. and another thing, they say that only minorities suffer, but its not true. i have to look at all angles and so should every1 else. white ppl in trailers can not get the same benefits as ppl in the projects. it may not be the same (trailer parks and projects) but we are all ppl and we should be all equal. but until we get rid of these laws about majority and minority we can not grow, if we are all equal under god and as stated in the constitution then why do we continue to hate each other over race and where we come from. i'm just sick of it. and it needs to stop. peace
why? why? why?
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the spanish destorying has more impacted than any other war, genocide or anything hostoric. most mexicans dont know there history befor the spanish came here , most dont under stand that spanish last name was givin to them after conversion, day of the dead was actually a month long holiday in agust, aztecs were WARRIORS, Mexica was the people. like the romains had legions, mexica had there aztecs.most mexicans are ignorant to there past , hate comes from ignorence
actually aloted of hae comes from people who cant forget the past and refusse to move on.
what made the aztecs so good. they enslaved people, they sacraficed the lives of their POW's to their so called gods. all the other tribes around mexico hated them including the mayans but were to weak to fight against them and win. and lastly if they were such great warriors why did a tribe of nearly 20 million Aztecs let 200 spanish conquistadors come into their land and conquer them easily????????
what made the aztecs so good. they enslaved people, they sacraficed the lives of their POW's to their so called gods. all the other tribes around mexico hated them including the mayans but were to weak to fight against them and win. and lastly if they were such great warriors why did a tribe of nearly 20 million Aztecs let 200 spanish conquistadors come into their land and conquer them easily????????
you know in this day in age its not really about race that much any more its really more about the benjamins. i remember my grandfather always had a favorite saying spanish speakers have probly heard it before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"dime cuanto tienes y te digo cuanto vales" which means "tell me how much you got and i'll tell you how much your worth"
"dime cuanto tienes y te digo cuanto vales" which means "tell me how much you got and i'll tell you how much your worth"
200 spanish brang diese and had other tribes who hated the mexica them along there side. the aztecs were enslaved , they were givin spanish last names , women were raped.
the incan civilization in peru was later sufferd the same fate, incan warriors who were un-armed and peacefuly met with conquistadors . the inca were later slaughterd.
why foget the past , history is very important subject. do u want to forget what this country was built on ? its was the bodies of natives , and the backs of africans
ya but the disease didnt hit the aztecs till years later that shit wasnt overnight. and also they were mainly helped by 1 lady (just cant remember her name right now). and as for them being enslaved. i believe they did that to themselves i mean 200 conquistadors on horseback with guns vs. 10 million warriors. Montezumas own belief along with the rest of the Aztecs that Cortez was the reincarnation of Quetzlquatyl (sp) got the best of them.
i'm not saying forget the past cause your right that is history and history shouldnt be forgotten but one must move on and integrate into the society in which they are living in order to become succesful. and when it comes down to it we are mexican americans (or at least i am) living in america not mexico therefore we should take that into consideration.
i'm not saying forget the past cause your right that is history and history shouldnt be forgotten but one must move on and integrate into the society in which they are living in order to become succesful. and when it comes down to it we are mexican americans (or at least i am) living in america not mexico therefore we should take that into consideration.
i too, believe we shouldnt live in the past, and that remembering it only brings heartache but i just want to know why we learn the european points of history. i never learned about asia until i decided to learn about it myself. when i did learn about places like china it was about what Marco Polo saw.
the eurocentric perspective on history is to preserve the white domination on the world.
@furio: The past is relevent to the present, and to the future. if we arent aware of the past, how can we alleveiate some of the same problems we face in the present? the future?
realistically speaking, whites are no greater that anyone else... like someone already said azecs had slaves, as did africans, and if yeen already knowin...look at the root word to the word slave is slav..
@furio: The past is relevent to the present, and to the future. if we arent aware of the past, how can we alleveiate some of the same problems we face in the present? the future?
realistically speaking, whites are no greater that anyone else... like someone already said azecs had slaves, as did africans, and if yeen already knowin...look at the root word to the word slave is slav..
why did a tribe of nearly 20 million Aztecs let 200 spanish conquistadors come into their land and conquer them easily????????
The Aztecs had a belief that their gods were supposed to come around that time, and they thought the spanish were it. It has nothing to do with them not being great warriors, the spanish just happened to come at the right time. They didn't fight back because they didn't want to upset their "so-called gods". There's your answer. I forget which gods the aztecs were talking about but what I said pretty much sums it up. If they knew the truth back then and hadn't been blinded by their own prophecies they would have kicked the spanish out of their land.
The Aztecs had a belief that their gods were supposed to come around that time, and they thought the spanish were it. It has nothing to do with them not being great warriors, the spanish just happened to come at the right time. They didn't fight back because they didn't want to upset their "so-called gods". There's your answer. I forget which gods the aztecs were talking about but what I said pretty much sums it up. If they knew the truth back then and hadn't been blinded by their own prophecies they would have kicked the spanish out of their land.
Reasons for defeat by Spanish (Aztecs and Inca)
Religious beliefs (Quetzalcoatl, the sun god Inti)
Trusting people – not accustomed to unannounced sieges
Disease - brought by Europeans (smallpox, measles)
Tactics and War Technology
Horses and Metal Swords/Shields,guns
Many conquered peoples supported aims of the Spanish
Civil War (in Peru)
Religious beliefs (Quetzalcoatl, the sun god Inti)
Trusting people – not accustomed to unannounced sieges
Disease - brought by Europeans (smallpox, measles)
Tactics and War Technology
Horses and Metal Swords/Shields,guns
Many conquered peoples supported aims of the Spanish
Civil War (in Peru)
ITS ALL ABOUT THE TECNOLOGY
The Europeans had much more advanced technology than the others. So when they enter a land to conquor, they will have a huge advantage. You got to realize the history of the world tho too. As in its all about the LAND YOU OWN. And the way to be the biggest and own the most resources and hope to find the most gold in your new lands, is to CONQUOR AND DESTROY! So everyone pretty much did it. Portugal was NUMBER 1 as far as slave trading.
As far as what we are taught, from the white mans view, they won, so what do you expect.
The Europeans had much more advanced technology than the others. So when they enter a land to conquor, they will have a huge advantage. You got to realize the history of the world tho too. As in its all about the LAND YOU OWN. And the way to be the biggest and own the most resources and hope to find the most gold in your new lands, is to CONQUOR AND DESTROY! So everyone pretty much did it. Portugal was NUMBER 1 as far as slave trading.
As far as what we are taught, from the white mans view, they won, so what do you expect.
Re: Re: Re: why? why? why?
yes it is but sadly thats the way things are in this country. i mean if you were to walk up to say Gov. Davis in the street do you think he would talk to you and carry a conversation with you, would he accept in invitation to lunch from you(99% he wouldn't).
now if colin powell or jesse jackson was to ask him to lunch do you think he would accept (of course), and this goes for most people in society not just polititians
yes it is but sadly thats the way things are in this country. i mean if you were to walk up to say Gov. Davis in the street do you think he would talk to you and carry a conversation with you, would he accept in invitation to lunch from you(99% he wouldn't).
now if colin powell or jesse jackson was to ask him to lunch do you think he would accept (of course), and this goes for most people in society not just polititians
1. they weren't trusting they were violent people that were always at war with some1.
2. disease didnt bring their demise till later.
3. com'on tactics and war technology.... (horses and swords and muskets and shields) thats all they had.
i mean even with all that (horses, shields,muskets,swords) theres no way 10 million warriors should be conquerred by 200 soldiers (of which not all 200 were soldiers).
i agree though that they gave in cause they thought he was quetzylquatyl (SP) and he was coming back to reclaim the land and they feared him. but still they shouldnt have gave in, because quetz...was an expelled god who was expelled from the Aztex empire by the other gods.
2. disease didnt bring their demise till later.
3. com'on tactics and war technology.... (horses and swords and muskets and shields) thats all they had.
i mean even with all that (horses, shields,muskets,swords) theres no way 10 million warriors should be conquerred by 200 soldiers (of which not all 200 were soldiers).
i agree though that they gave in cause they thought he was quetzylquatyl (SP) and he was coming back to reclaim the land and they feared him. but still they shouldnt have gave in, because quetz...was an expelled god who was expelled from the Aztex empire by the other gods.