Why Whites don't like to address the issue of RACISM

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Cheaptimes said:
what?

are they minorities, or are they white? or are they minorities that are white?
group of 9, 2 blacks, 3 asians, 2 latinos, 2 white dudes w/ one being racist and tryin' not to be racist. It's a really good film, the discussions that are in the film need to be heard by EVERYBODY. One of the White dudes almost teared up in the discussion because he didn't realize how bad it was for one of the black dudes. Anyway just watch it, you won't regret it.

40oz, you shouldn't be allowed to post in this forum. :x
 
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IM A WHITE GUY WHO DOESNT DISCESS RACISM MUCH.....THE REASON????I DONT JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR COLOR AND DONT THINK ANYONE ELSE SHOULD....AND FOR THE MOST PART IT DOESNT EFFECT ME....
 
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Dayum, this came out in 94? I think it'd prolly be koo to get them foos together again and do another one 10 years after the fact and see what's different and what not yadamean? See if any of their views have changed or anything. Kinda like when I used to see them boys n girls club commercials back in the day where it would have sum lil kid talkin bout how it helped him stay out the gangs. I always wondered if they did a follow up on that foo today would he be a stand-up citizen or dead/in jail or on the road towards it.
 
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IM A WHITE GUY WHO DOESNT DISCESS RACISM MUCH.....THE REASON????I DONT JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR COLOR AND DONT THINK ANYONE ELSE SHOULD....AND FOR THE MOST PART IT DOESNT EFFECT ME....

Good for you. You are making a bigger difference in ending racism than some minority with a victim mentality.
 

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TOKZTLI said:
Good for you. You are making a bigger difference in ending racism than some minority with a victim mentality.
So what you're telling me is not discussing it and having the "oh it doesn't effect me blah blah blah" mentality is making a bigger difference in ending racism?!?!?! :confused:

Could you explain yourself? I'm missing the logic in your statement and I'd really like to understand where you're coming from. Good lookin out.


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No my friend, the logic lies in the part of the statement you ignored. Tragic Losses said, "IM A WHITE GUY WHO DOESNT DISCESS RACISM MUCH. . I DONT JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR COLOR AND DONT THINK ANYONE ELSE SHOULD. . ." He does not believe race should be a factor in socializing with other people, that is the mentality that will lead to the ending of the bigotted, ignorant racist mindset that some white and non-whites share.

When I read his statement, the part where he said it "doesnt affect me much" is almost an afterthought or an aside to add to his first premise. By picking up on that little comment and expanding it to become the core substance of his opinion, does a serious diservice to his opinion, the other readers who ride your nuts and to oneself, dont you agree?
 
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Okay, i'm not racist.BUT I don't think u should totally disregard someone's skin color.I am lots of things including Mexican,I'd like people too realize that.I understand that u ignore the negative aspects of people's skin color like the things that racist people say.But whether u are white black indian or mexican people should acknoledge your race as part of who u are.All of our ancestors struggled to make thier way in this country so we could be proud of our heritage not so we or other people could ignore it.That to me is an insult.However everyone does have a right to speak thier mind so I'm sorry fif I offended any one.
 

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Lets take a look at what he said:

IM A WHITE GUY WHO DOESNT DISCESS RACISM MUCH. . I DONT JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR COLOR AND DONT THINK ANYONE ELSE SHOULD.
His reason for not discussing "racism much" is rooted in the belief that people should not be judged by their color....
Newsflash!!! You have MANY people from ALL colors, religions, walks of life etc who believe people should not be judged based on color. Do they talk about it? YES! I don't see how not addressing the problem rectifies it.

Let's take a look at your reply:


He does not believe race should be a factor in socializing with other people, that is the mentality that will lead to the ending of the bigotted, ignorant racist mindset that some white and non-whites share.
He doesn't believe race is a factor but doesn't want to discuss the subject. Why is race not a factor?Does he even see the subject as a problem? I don't believe so based on the "it doesn't effect me" statement. Race should NOT be a factor but to say "I don't talk about it" yet promote holding hands and walking into the sunset is insanity.

How can you conquer the ignorant racist mindsets of some whites and non-whites when you refuse to talk about it and educate them?


When I read his statement, the part where he said it "doesnt affect me much" is almost an afterthought or an aside to add to his first premise.
IMHO it's a typical response from someone who denies the sting of racism or it's the typical response of someone who lives in a fantasy realm where everything is peaches and cream.

By picking up on that little comment and expanding it to become the core substance of his opinion
Yeah just a *little comment*. Thats all it was nothing more :rolleyes:


does a serious diservice to his opinion, the other readers who ride your nuts and to oneself, dont you agree?

Who's riding my nuts? I ask you a question with no hostilities in an attempt (however vain it may be) to further the discussion and gain insight on your opinion. Yet you mention "nut riding" and bring other people into this? I mean seriously if anyone is nut riding it's you. You quoted the man, gave him praise and agreed with every word he said. In fact Your speaking up for him right now. Who's the nut rider now junior?


I'm sorry you haven't been house broken yet but, I won't take it upon myself to ridicule an uncivilized savage such as yourself. I asked you something in an HONEST attempt to see where you're coming from and you mention nut riding blah blah blah. Don't you think that does a diservice to his opinion (the one you are hell bent on defending), the other readers who may want to shed light on this subject and yourself? I mean seriously we are talking about racism and the effects of it and you're already throwing insults. People can't even talk abut a problem without being insulted.


Yessuh massa boss su I be keepins it quiett n dont be spekin on dat der raschism stuff a gain cuz we sho dont needs ta be talkin about it so im jus gon be a good ole boy and run along and be pickins mo cotton fo ya yes serri i be doin dat der fo ya




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why should we discuss it, it will just end up in a fight or arguement, no point, white people typically are not racist it is just that people stereo type themselves and then try to play mr victim in the situation, a black man is mad because people say most blacks want to rap and play basketball or somthing along those lines, but he himself is a rapper or a basketball player,then says the white guy that made the comment is racist even though many of the black mans friends are doin the same things he is, wtf, i do not try to catagorize people by race or anything, i think circumstances effect a persons life instead of thier "so called mind set that is due to their race" but if everyone just let it go rather than tryin to discuss it itd be better
 
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and i believe the statement that it does not affect you is quite ignorant, your white, so lets make a senerio here, you get in a fight about a black/mexican man callin you racist, and say you win, you will probably be charged with "assault with racist intent" or whatever the fucc they call it, say the black/mexican totally fuccs you up, most likely they will mention nothing about racism, ive seen this happen many times
 

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why should we discuss it,
Because it's a problem that still persists in the WORLD. It's a problem that has not been properly addressed and rectified. Thats why we should discuss it. We discuss it because a man got a plunger stuck up his rectum by police officers. Thats why. We discuss it because violence is destroying afrika. Thats why. We should discuss it because american forgein policy has led to the destruction of many men, women and children in the mideast. Thats why we should talk about. We have poverty and blacks and minorities have the highest drop out rate. Thats why we should talk about it. We have housing issues that need attention asap thats why we should talk about it.


it will just end up in a fight or arguement, no point
Not if both parties have a genuine interest in addressing the issue and correcting the problem. It won't be a problem if mutual respect is present.


white people typically are not racist it is just that people stereo type themselves and then try to play mr victim in the situation

Please clarify your statement. Do you understand what a "stereotype" is?


a black man is mad because people say most blacks want to rap and play basketball or somthing along those lines, but he himself is a rapper or a basketball player

To say most blacks want to play basketball or rap would be based on what? A pole that was conducted in urban areas were the way "out" is through sports/entertainment? I own a studio (and it grows each month) and I'll be the first to tell you I couldn't care less about rapping. I can make money scoring, mixing or editing. When black people get mad from statements like that you must consider the source and the motive behind it.


Since you mentioned rapping and basketball how many teams are owned by black men? How many major record labels (the big 5/4) are owned by black men? Do you see a problem with blacks being the "worker bees" while whites maintain a firm control of the business?

then says the white guy that made the comment is racist even though many of the black mans friends are doin the same things he is
See the above. Misguided people OR people with genuine ambitions may want to rap or play hoop. People who simply see the fad or a way to get rich quick don't last long....and thats in any business.


i do not try to catagorize people by race or anything, i think circumstances effect a persons life instead of thier "so called mind set that is due to their race" but if everyone just let it go rather than tryin to discuss it itd be better
Don't talk about it, sit back, shut up, don't say a word, it doesn't exist everyone just get along. HOW CAN YOU GET ALONG WITH SOMEONE OR RECTIFY A PROBLEM IF YOU DONT ADDRESS THE PROBLEM?

Not talking about our society and what has caused MILLIONS and BILLIONS of people to DIE is NOT an answer to the problem. You people act as if racism is dead and we are light years past Jim Crow. Live in denial all you want but let me tell you the truth. ONE of the WORST things a BLACK man can do is try to COMPROMISE or educate a white man who:

1. Lives in DENIAL.

2. Does not have a genuine interest in the advancement of PEOPLE.

3. Promotes the "sweep it under the rug, everything is fine, it doesn't effect me mentality".


and i believe the statement that it does not affect you is quite ignorant
I agree.


your white, so lets make a senerio here, you get in a fight about a black/mexican man callin you racist, and say you win, you will probably be charged with "assault with racist intent"

Possibly. Lets look at a better scenario here. A black man walks down the street and stops to answer his phone. Four white people walk out the house and two of them say "nigger what are you doing looking in my car?" The black man replies by telling them he was not looking at the car but answering his phone. The four whites surround him, a bystander calls the police and the police come. The police arrest the black man for disturbing the peace.....the black man ends up loosing his job as a correctional officer due to the incident. That happened to my brother.


What is that called? Hey Toktzli is that reverse racism?


If whites didn't have a such a tainted history in america would reverse racism exist?
 

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MrFedEx503 said:
racism will never die, cuz people keep bringin it up. just love ya life the way u gotta, everything aint supposed to be gravy
Can you explain how racism will die if people don't bring it up? If no one ever brought up racism would that stop people from promoting ideas of superiority? Would that stop hate groups from acting out and bombing churches and homes? Please explain your logic.