Why Police Target Rappers

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I saw the thread by Bellboy184 and White Devil said that police target rappers because they shoot people, that's asinine because you don't have to be a rapper or any other kind of public figure to shoot people, it's just because some rappers glorify what they do or have done before a legit career like rap, police target them because of their criminal past or present, like selling drugs or gang activity and police target rappers because they feel that rap contributes to society's problems when rappers discuss what they go or have been through, rappers are ordinary people but they become extraordinary when money and fame come in the picture. I never felt rap is responsible for America's problems because America's had problems before rap.
 
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Actually, if they target rappers it's because they fit "the profile", not because of what is written in their songs or performed on stage. I would find it hard to believe that your average police officer would be able to identify a specific rapper out of a lineup based on his own recolection. When you take the populas of convicted (black) felons in prison and find a common characteristic amongst them (like the way they look, act, and dress) then you have created a "profile". From then on that profile is used to combat crime in the streets. This is how wrongfully convicted African American's wind up in prison, because they fit the profile. This profile is not just used by police, but by jury, judges, and deconstructive members of society. My guess is that a profile for a black man would be a "gangsta" looking male; baggy pants, afro or corn rows, oversized t-shirt, earings you could throw through a window, and shoes you can see your reflection in. And depending on your location, your skin may fit the profile. I don't know about white people though. I don't think there is a trend because white rich corporate figures can be just as dirty as poor white trash convicts. It's a dirty game yall. I also agree with Formaldehyde, hip-hop is the result; but, it certainly is not helping the cause.

Perhaps Spock has some logical reasoning on this subject.
 
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YOuNg WiNo said:
targeting rappers ?
Thats the first thing I thought when I started typing that shit, thats why I changed it to "..if police were targeting rappers..", and the fact that it is likely very few police officers could identify a rapper based on looks. Its a stupid subject, but I continue to indulge.
 
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Police don't target rappers for jack fuck. The average racist white cop (since it must be racist white people targeting them), just like Nitro said, could not tell Bling Bing from Big Dogg if his life depended on it.

Celebrities for the most part, get off for crimes committed. Didn't Jay-Z stab some label exec? Is that case even still in the news? Look at that Winona bitch. Bitch stole 5,000 worth of clothes. What did she get? 3 years probation. What would you, or I have gotten?

Even if rappers were constantly targeted/hounded by the cops, unless they broke a law, there ain't shit the cops can do. Unless the cops go around framing rappers, which I doubt, but you know, I would guess that many on this board believe cops actually do target/frame rappers, and that is their opinion.

But for the most part the police are not a nefarious secret society. Black people are actually proportionally overrepresented on police squads, meaning a larger chunk of the police force is black than the average population, and still most police departments are very happy to accept and in fact seek out minority candidates.

Listen to the messages many rappers put forth in their music. If they are all fake and phony, then none of it is true. If they are "real" about what they're saying, then obviously they're the type who break laws. Ludacris talkin about packin 40 calibers and growing bomb in his backyard as an example. And the list goes on, etc. etc. I don't believe police target rappers.

The statement about rappers shooting people or having pounds of coke in their trunk was sarcastic. For the most part I believe rappers are more than likely guilty of much more than they get caught for, just like most of us ion this board.
 
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E if you gonna answer every one of my posts with "who are you to say shit, punk ass whiteboy", lmao, don't even respond. What's the point?

If

1. Police forces contain more minorities than most other jobs (which they do, accounting to an aggressive minority recruitment campaign in most inner cities).

2. The racist white cops don't know who rappers are / couldn't tell a rapper from an average "thuggish" black male from Jesus. (which they couldn't)

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3. The rappers who most often get popped are lesser known, smaller artists.

How could you say police target them?

Recent High Profile Rappers Locked Up -
C-Murder - Shot some dude in the head, with witnesses.
Shyne - Shot off guns at club, hitting people, with witnesses.

Were these the product of a government conspiracy?
 
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Me for example I got a felony and three misdemeanors. Every one of those crimes I committed and none were the product of a conspiracy.

You got 7, 8, 9, DUs? (Forgot the specific number) And which of those are you responsible for? None, Some, or All?
 

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^AND YOU STILL JUDgIN'. LIKE I SAID, WHO ARE YOU TO JUDgE? AND I DIDN'T COME WITH THAT "CLUELESS WHITEBOY" SPEECH YOU FEEL I gOT RESERVED FOR YOU, EVEN THOUgH I SHOULD OF LAYED IT THIK CAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU COMIN'. BUT I'LL BREAK IT ON DOWN TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE YOU FALTER WITH YOUR LOgIC.

ALREADY DEAD,
YOU STRESSED, "E if you gonna answer every one of my posts with "who are you to say shit, punk ass whiteboy", lmao, don't even respond. What's the point?"

51ST OF ALL,
THE POINT IS THAT I DIDN'T COME AT YOU LIKE YOU FEEL ANTOgONIZED TO DO SO.

XNDLY,
QUIT ASSUMIN' HOW I AM OR COME WITH, CAUSE I DON'T COME WITH THE SAME SHIT.

3RDLY,
FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS gONNA CONSIDER BEIN IN THE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD IF YOU WENT TO THE CLINK, YOU SURE HAVE A LOT OF NERVE TO SPEAK UP ON RAPPERS BEIN' TARgETTED BY POLICE.



THEN YOU STRESSED, "If

1. Police forces contain more minorities than most other jobs (which they do, accounting to an aggressive minority recruitment campaign in most inner cities)."

THAT DON'T MEAN SHIT BUT MORE SELLOUTS AND MUTHA-FUKAS THINKIN' THEY BETTER AND HAVIN' AUTHORITY OVER OTHAS, BASICALLY DOIN' THE WHITEMAN'S DIRTY WORK.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "2. The racist white cops don't know who rappers are / couldn't tell a rapper from an average "thuggish" black male from Jesus. (which they couldn't)"

THAT AIN'T HOW THEY WORK. THEY PROFILE MUTHA-FUKAS AND HAVE ERRONEOUS INFORMATION. I COULD OF BEEN BANgIN' AND THEY KNOW ME AS A gANgMEMBER, THEN I COULD gIVE MY LIFE TO JESUS AND CONVERT. THAT SHIT DON'T MATTER, I'M STILL A gANg MEMBER TO THEM AND WILL gET HARRASED LIKE ONE. SO MANY FOO'S THAT TRY TO gET OUT OF BANgIN' BY RAPPIN' OR DOIN' SOMETHIN' PRODUCTIVE, STILL gET FUCCED WITH.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "3. The rappers who most often get popped are lesser known, smaller artists."

WITH LESS SCRILL AND RESOURCES. THEY ARE TIED TO THE STREETS, AND THESE PIgS MAKE SURE THEY NEVA MAKE IT OUT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "How could you say police target them?"

CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT BROTHAS COMIN' OUT THE gUTTER THEY OWN WAY.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Recent High Profile Rappers Locked Up -
C-Murder - Shot some dude in the head, with witnesses.
Shyne - Shot off guns at club, hitting people, with witnesses.

Were these the product of a government conspiracy?"

NAW, THEY WERE TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS WHERE BULLSHIT POPPED OFF, AND SOMEBODY HAD TO TAKE THE FALL. AND FOR THE RECORD, C-MURDER gETTIN' OFF.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Me for example I got a felony and three misdemeanors. Every one of those crimes I committed and none were the product of a conspiracy."

gOOD FOR YOU. ARE YOU HARD NOW? WANT A COOKIE? BUT IF YOU FEEL RESPONSIBLE THEN LET THAT BE YOUR AKNOWLEDgEMENT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "You got 7, 8, 9, DUs? (Forgot the specific number) And which of those are you responsible for? None, Some, or All?"

I WAS TARgETTED EARLY ON BY A PUNK MUTHA-FUKA, AND THE SHIT SNOW-BALLED AFTER THAT. BUT THAT IN ITSELF IS A CONSPIRACY CAUSE HAVIN' A CAR EQUALS POWER. YOU gO TO THE HOOD AND SEE HOW MANY MUTHA-FUKAS AIN'T gOT LICENSES. WHY? CAUSE IF THEY CAN'T gET YOU FOR THE BIg SHIT, THEY'LL START WITH THE LITTLE SHIT.
 
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EDJ said:
51ST OF ALL,
THE POINT IS THAT I DIDN'T COME AT YOU LIKE YOU FEEL ANTOgONIZED TO DO SO.
My mistake.
3RDLY,
FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS gONNA CONSIDER BEIN IN THE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD IF YOU WENT TO THE CLINK, YOU SURE HAVE A LOT OF NERVE TO SPEAK UP ON RAPPERS BEIN' TARgETTED BY POLICE.
This was my understanding of jail politics: White people join the Aryan Brotherhood. Mexicans = 13/14, Blacks = Blood, Crip, BGF, 415, Asians = Azn gangs, etc. From what I heard from people, you HAD to stay wit your race. There was no switchin up or bein judged a "cool" whiteboy, etc. I found out later that wasn't the case, but whatever.

What would I, in my limited knowledge, have said? Oh Ima kick with the Black Folks! Yea that woulda made sense. As a matter of fact I talked to a whiteboy who went to the clink and whose dad killed a black dude. Dude got shanked from the get, but ended up bein cool with the Blacks, and before where he was a hard rockin ass whiteboy now he only kicks it with black people, etc. Did I know this kind of environment existed where dudes could poull some shit like that? Nah I thought it was just like you stick wit your race. And I didnt know Aryan Brotherhood was some KKK nazi shit. I thought they were just whiteboys grouped up to survive.

THAT DON'T MEAN SHIT BUT MORE SELLOUTS AND MUTHA-FUKAS THINKIN' THEY BETTER AND HAVIN' AUTHORITY OVER OTHAS, BASICALLY DOIN' THE WHITEMAN'S DIRTY WORK.
So you sayin all Police basically faulty in everything they do? What about the mothafuckas that run into burning buildings to save people? What about the police that show up and a dad is smackin on his wife and kids and they take the family out of danger? What about the police that risk goin up on high ass buildings and shit tryin to stop people from committing suicide? When I first got popped I chopped it up with tthe female cop who arrested me for hours. She shoulda rolled me in but she kept me at the station and we just basically kicked it. And when I got rolled to county, we were laughin the whole way, I was telling her which radio stations to put on, etc. I came out of that with the attitude like damn these are some real ass people. Just like mothafuckas in the hood got shit to deal with daily, so do police. There is a high ass rate of depression, alchoholism, suicide, etc., among cops.

I see where you comin from with the racism, and the profiling, etc. But I know there are a grip of police that actually are in this shit because they care and want to help people.

THAT AIN'T HOW THEY WORK. THEY PROFILE MUTHA-FUKAS AND HAVE ERRONEOUS INFORMATION. I COULD OF BEEN BANgIN' AND THEY KNOW ME AS A gANgMEMBER, THEN I COULD gIVE MY LIFE TO JESUS AND CONVERT. THAT SHIT DON'T MATTER, I'M STILL A gANg MEMBER TO THEM AND WILL gET HARRASED LIKE ONE. SO MANY FOO'S THAT TRY TO gET OUT OF BANgIN' BY RAPPIN' OR DOIN' SOMETHIN' PRODUCTIVE, STILL gET FUCCED WITH.
That I agree with. They need to set up some kind of law or initiative that allows people who have had their lives turned around to get their records wiped and their gang affiliations cleared, cause how the fuck are you supposed to be a contributing member of society when you get turned down for job applications and you constantly get hassled by police? Yet they tell ex-cons to go get a job and stop committing crimes.

THEY ARE TIED TO THE STREETS, AND THESE PIgS MAKE SURE THEY NEVA MAKE IT OUT.
CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT BROTHAS COMIN' OUT THE gUTTER THEY OWN WAY.
All pigs, or some?

NAW, THEY WERE TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS WHERE BULLSHIT POPPED OFF, AND SOMEBODY HAD TO TAKE THE FALL. AND FOR THE RECORD, C-MURDER gETTIN' OFF.
We'll see I guess.

gOOD FOR YOU. ARE YOU HARD NOW? WANT A COOKIE? BUT IF YOU FEEL RESPONSIBLE THEN LET THAT BE YOUR AKNOWLEDgEMENT.
Im not tryin to come off hard hell nah. Haha. But my point was ain't nobody targeted me. I did that shit on my own.

I WAS TARgETTED EARLY ON BY A PUNK MUTHA-FUKA, AND THE SHIT SNOW-BALLED AFTER THAT. BUT THAT IN ITSELF IS A CONSPIRACY CAUSE HAVIN' A CAR EQUALS POWER. YOU gO TO THE HOOD AND SEE HOW MANY MUTHA-FUKAS AIN'T gOT LICENSES. WHY? CAUSE IF THEY CAN'T gET YOU FOR THE BIg SHIT, THEY'LL START WITH THE LITTLE SHIT.
Well you sayin there wasn't no way for you to wait until the suspension was over before you start drivin again?
 

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ALREADY DEAD,
YOU WANTED TO SIDE WITH THE WHITE RACIST CAUSE YOU EMBRACE AND IDENTIFY WITH WHITE CULTURE EVEN THOUgH YOU HAVE HALF MEXICAN BLOOD AND RAISED IN A PRE-DOMINANT URBAN SETTIN'. AND TO BE IgNORANT TO THEY WHITE SUPREMACY IDEALS IS BEYOND ME. YOU SPEAK A gOOD gAME BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW ARYAN BROTHERHOOD WAS RACISTS?

BUT YOU STRESSED, "What would I, in my limited knowledge, have said? Oh Ima kick with the Black Folks!"

IF YOU WERE RAISED WITH THEM AND FEEL COMFORTABLE AROUND BROTHAS, WHY WOULDN'T YOU? BUT YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE YOU, #1 RULE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "So you sayin all Police basically faulty in everything they do?"

NAW, I'M SAYIN' THEY ALL PUPPETS TO A SYSTEM BASED ON EXPLOITATION AND BIgOTRY, AND DOIN' THEY ENFORCIN' OF THEM LAWS THEY MAKE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What about the mothafuckas that run into burning buildings to save people?"

WHAT ABOUT THEM?

THEN YOU STRESSED, " What about the police that show up and a dad is smackin on his wife and kids and they take the family out of danger?"

WHAT ABOUT THEM?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "What about the police that risk goin up on high ass buildings and shit tryin to stop people from committing suicide?"


WHAT ABOUT THEM?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "When I first got popped I chopped it up with tthe female cop who arrested me for hours. She shoulda rolled me in but she kept me at the station and we just basically kicked it. And when I got rolled to county, we were laughin the whole way, I was telling her which radio stations to put on, etc."

DID YOU ATLEAST gET HER NUMBER?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I came out of that with the attitude like damn these are some real ass people. Just like mothafuckas in the hood got shit to deal with daily, so do police. There is a high ass rate of depression, alchoholism, suicide, etc., among cops."

DON'T TELL ME YOU WANNA BE A COP NOW?

THEN YOU STRESSED, "I see where you comin from with the racism, and the profiling, etc. But I know there are a grip of police that actually are in this shit because they care and want to help people."

OR THEY START OFF THAT WAY. REgARDLESS, THEY ARE JUST PUPPETS OF THE SYSTEM.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "That I agree with. They need to set up some kind of law or initiative that allows people who have had their lives turned around to get their records wiped and their gang affiliations cleared, cause how the fuck are you supposed to be a contributing member of society when you get turned down for job applications and you constantly get hassled by police? Yet they tell ex-cons to go get a job and stop committing crimes."

SO NOW YOU KNOW THEY DON'T CARE. THE SYSTEM IS HYPOCRITICAL. IT'S JUST A MONEY-MAKIN' MACHINE.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "All pigs, or some?"

THE SYTEM AND THE TOOLS OF THE SYSTEM. BUT THE TOOLS AIN'T gOT NO SAY-SO ON HOW THEY gET USED.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Im not tryin to come off hard hell nah. Haha. But my point was ain't nobody targeted me. I did that shit on my own."

IF THAT'S HOW YOU ACCEPT IT AND PERCEIVE IT.

THEN YOU STRESSED, "Well you sayin there wasn't no way for you to wait until the suspension was over before you start drivin again?"

I WAS YOUNg AND HAD ALL KIND OF SHIT TO TRY TO TAKE CARE OF. I SHOULDN'T OF LOST MY LICENSE IN THE FIRST PLACE. I NEVA HAD A DUI OR CRASHED. BUT THEY KNEW WHO I WAS. EVERYTIME THEY SEEN THE OLD SCHOOL DIggITY DODgE VAN ROLLIN' THEY KNEW THEM HORTONS WAS UP TO NO gOOD. THEY JUST KNEW.
 
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EDJ said:
ALREADY DEAD,
YOU WANTED TO SIDE WITH THE WHITE RACIST CAUSE YOU EMBRACE AND IDENTIFY WITH WHITE CULTURE EVEN THOUgH YOU HAVE HALF MEXICAN BLOOD AND RAISED IN A PRE-DOMINANT URBAN SETTIN'. AND TO BE IgNORANT TO THEY WHITE SUPREMACY IDEALS IS BEYOND ME. YOU SPEAK A gOOD gAME BUT YOU DIDN'T KNOW ARYAN BROTHERHOOD WAS RACISTS?
Yea, I thought they was "kinda" racist, but no more racist than Black people are against Mexicans, Mexicans are against Asians, etc. I didn't think they were on some KKK swaztika Hitler shit. Haha. I thought they were just some cracka ass cracka pinche gavacho mothafuckas doin what they had to do in the pen.

Obviously, if you up against another group you not gonna like em. Obviously among the blacks in the pen who war wit surenos they gonna be talkin some racist shit amongst themselves, probly not around them XIV fools but amongst themselves. Thats what you expect from people who are put up against another group.

That is one thing about incarceration I oppose. I think there should be seperate, racially mixed
pods for non-gang members. Of course people will say oh they just gonna go at it, but I think if you stuck with it, and you shipped out the people who were obviously a problem, that it would improve race relations between people. Because I think race relations between rich mexicans and rich white people don't matter. It's at the bottom where it starts, from the ground up.

IF YOU WERE RAISED WITH THEM AND FEEL COMFORTABLE AROUND BROTHAS, WHY WOULDN'T YOU? BUT YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE YOU, #1 RULE.
Cause I thought that would be literally impossible, as in, what the fuck is dude doin? And I don't speak no Spanish, so I didn't see myself gettin in with the Mexicans.

DID YOU ATLEAST gET HER NUMBER?
Nah but she sent me a Christmas card and we was on hella friendly terms. If that mothafucka ever pulls me over or rolls up on me I'll probly get the benefit of the doubt at the very least if not straight get let off.

DON'T TELL ME YOU WANNA BE A COP NOW?
Oh hell nah. Haha. Cops in Amerika are no different than Soldiers in Iraq, fighting a bullshit war for the wrong reasons. I'm just sayin there's a difference side to the pos that nobody acknowledges that for some part there are some who care about people and are tryin to make a difference in their own way.

SO NOW YOU KNOW THEY DON'T CARE. THE SYSTEM IS HYPOCRITICAL. IT'S JUST A MONEY-MAKIN' MACHINE.
Jails are a business just like anything else. They get money when they get prisoners.
 

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I SEE WE ON THE SAME PAgE NOW. AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT PROgRAMS THEY DO TO INTEgRATE PRISONERS, THEY DO. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SECURITY IN PRISONS. AND ANOTHA THINg THAT INTEgRATES RACES ARE DRUgS. IF YOU HAVE THE gOODS, AIN'T NO RACE TOO gOOD FOR YOU. THE MOST RACIST WHITEBOY WILL COME HOLLA. THAT'S WHY DRUgS RULE AND DOMINATE.
 
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Police don't target rappers? gay, fasho they do.

MTV Full article

One of the most hotly debated topics in the hip-hop world is the New York Police Department's reported clampdown on the rap industry.

In the wake of high-profile investigations into the slaying of Jam Master Jay, the joint FBI-NYPD raids on the offices of Murder Inc., and the recent arrests of 50 Cent and Fabolous on weapons charges, the hip-hop community is abuzz with talk of an elite "hip-hop squad" or "rap task force" whose duties include tailing rappers' vehicles and even monitoring their lyrics.

During a recent stint as a guest DJ on New York's Hot 97, 50 Cent tauntingly shouted out the "hip-hop cops" that he claims follow him everywhere. But does such a task force targeting rappers really exist?

No, insists the NYPD.

"There is no such thing," said Detective Walter Burns, a senior NYPD spokesperson. "We have no hip-hop task force, no hip-hop unit, no hip-hop patrol."

Police point out that when they do create task forces, like the Terrorism Task Force or the Hate Crimes Task Force, one of their purposes is to let the public know they're making an extra effort to stop crime. "If we did have a hip-hop task force," another NYPD spokesperson said, "we wouldn't deny it. We'd want to tell you that it exists."

But many artists aren't buying it.

"It's definitely a task force," Fat Joe said. "You go to hip-hop spots now and they ain't just your normal walking-the-beat cops. There's cops out there in undercover cars like they know something we don't know. Like bin Laden's in the club, B."

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Police tracking of rappers raises legal questions
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Legal scholars debate whether police surveillance of rap stars visiting Miami and Miami Beach violates the U.S. Constitution.

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On March, 9, 2004, two reporters at The Miami Herald revealed that the New York Police Department was keeping a dossier of rap artists. The six-inch-thick black binder listed all rappers and their associates who had New York arrest records.

Herald reporters Nicole White and Evelyn McDonnell said that the NYPD had handed Miami police the dossier during a three-day “hip-hop training session” for law enforcement.


CourtTV Link

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Simmons looks at some of the genre’s biggest stories including: the arrest and conviction of rap superstar Master P’s brother, C-Murder and the actions and allegations that led to the sexual assault charges against Tupac Shakur.
http://www.courttv.com/onair/hiphop_justice/index.html

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NYPD Admits to Rap Intelligence Unit
 

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I hit a 4 yard and guess what! Divide and conquer that is on the menu for cali prisons!The only reason there are gangs is cuz together we are to powerful any race!